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millsap contract

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 3:15 am
by chocodog
how much money will he command this off season? do you expect the Jazz are willing to match that price to keep him?

Re: millsap contract

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 3:41 am
by blackham9258
I think before the season when he turned down 3/$25M in his dreams he thought he was worth 4/$50M maybe even 5/$60M. I think after the season he had he might believe that he will still get $10M per year and that his worst case scenario is 4/$32... thats what I think he thinks.

And frankly why wouldn't he when looking at 2/$24M for Chris Humphries or 2/$20M given 2 years ago to D. West coming off an ACL... but what he doesn't see I don't think is what happened to guys like Carl Laundry, JJ Hickson, Chuck Hayes, B Bass, G Davis etc. All of them got between $4.5-$6.5M per year.

My take is that the new CBA will really bare its teeth this summer and Millsap will have to choose between playing for 4/$20+ Full MLE with a contender, or something in the $6-$7M range per year.

I think he could net a bigger short term deal in the range of $7.5-$9M per year if its for 2 years and a team like SA (who would be a perfect fit for Millsap and probably his best case scenario for more money) for one last championship run for them... but if he is wanting something with 4 years on it, he will be settling for $6-$7M per year.

Re: millsap contract

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:27 am
by Denizfeital
You re really underestimating how dumb those GMs out there can be.

Millsap will get around 4/40.

I don't think he deserves it, but I think he will get it.

Regards,

Re: millsap contract

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 3:53 pm
by red4hf
Denizfeital wrote:You re really underestimating how dumb those GMs out there can be.

Millsap will get around 4/40.

I don't think he deserves it, but I think he will get it.

Regards,


I agree, somebody will pay him that, or even more.....

Re: millsap contract

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:02 pm
by AingesBurner
I think he goes to one of 3 places: LAL, HOU, or ATL. I have a feeling LAL will have no interest from anyone with a Pau Gasol trade so they will amnesty him or maybe even Kobe, they resign D12 and sign Millsap to make a formidable front court. HOU signs him if they cannot attract Josh Smith, and ATL signs him if they cannot sign Josh Smith. His contract I think will be 4/44 or 4/48 depending on which team he signs with.

Re: millsap contract

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 3:12 am
by blackham9258
We will see. I just fundamentally believe that teams will only pay big money for guys that have much more to offer. Millsap is a 6th man of the year type... so definately above MLE, but how much? Can he be a top 2 player mean $10M plus per season on a championship caliber team?... I don't think he is.. I don't even know if he is a #3 player on a championship team anymore.

Re: millsap contract

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:37 am
by kamazilla
If you're paying $10M per season for the third best player on a championship caliber team, you've got yourself a bargain. Millsap is getting paid, make no mistake. But he isn't a top three player on a championship caliber team, either.

Considering recent year's FA signings, I could see his best offer being $11M +. In fact, I'll be surprised if it's significantly less than that.

Re: millsap contract

Posted: Wed May 1, 2013 3:21 pm
by eLo
Denizfeital wrote:You re really underestimating how dumb those GMs out there can be.

Millsap will get around 4/40.

I don't think he deserves it, but I think he will get it.

Regards,

playing like he played last season i think he easily deserves such money, this season he got in to a slump but whole Jazz team played bad for his justification

Re: millsap contract

Posted: Wed May 1, 2013 4:39 pm
by AingesBurner
I think Millsap played the way he did for a number of factors but I think he didn't go all out just so he didn't get injured and lose value trying to get a contract coming off injury.

Re: millsap contract

Posted: Wed May 1, 2013 7:36 pm
by StocktonShorts
The Jazz have told Millsap he's a starter for this team, that he's better than Favors, for two straight seasons now. It'd be really hard for them to bring him back and force him to the bench, regardless of what they're paying him.

"So just play Millsap at 4 and Favors at 5" -- Okay, that may work for some of this next year, but how long before Kanter is ready to start? If you believe that both Kanter and Favors can be NBA starters, then it makes ZERO sense to bring Millsap back at ANY number, because he won't accept a bench role.

Re: millsap contract

Posted: Wed May 1, 2013 10:27 pm
by JustinSane
Would Millsap be likely to accept a bench role with another team? At 4/10 he'd be an excellent fit in Detroit as the third big in a Drummond/Monroe/Millsap rotation, but only if he'd be ok with coming off the bench.

Re: millsap contract

Posted: Wed May 1, 2013 10:57 pm
by AingesBurner
Not going to happen, he thinks he a starter but I think he's a dominant back up. I don't think he will take 2.5 mill a year so probably not going to happen.

Re: millsap contract

Posted: Wed May 1, 2013 11:16 pm
by JustinSane
Whoops, that was intended to be $10 million a year for 4 years, or 4/40. Thanks for the insight - I agree he'd be a dominant back-up.

Re: millsap contract

Posted: Thu May 2, 2013 12:10 am
by kebutah
In today's CBA environment any team that pays $10M per year for a back up is fool hardy.

Re: millsap contract

Posted: Thu May 2, 2013 2:31 am
by blackham9258
That is my point as to why I don't think he will get anywhere near $10M per year. Because to give him $10M per year you are saying that he is a starter and one of your key three and I just don't see anyone doing that for more than 1 or 2 years like a San Antonio.

If Millsap wants 4 years I think the best he gets is $8, but I think once people see they don't have to compete with Utah (Meaning Dennis Lyndsay can really pull the chair out by saying we are going young and that we are only interested in sign and trades with Millsap and Jefferson... Those players agents lose their biggest bargaining chip with other teams) they will simply offer something north of MLE.

My best guess is 3/$25M like he turned down last year, or 4/$30M.

I just don't think the league sees Millsap the way we do. I think most see him as a slightly better version Brandon Bass, Big Baby, Carl Laundry etc.. SO, if those guys can be had in better market conditions for $5M-$6M per, Millsap should come for close to that in poor market conditions.

Re: millsap contract

Posted: Thu May 2, 2013 3:55 am
by The59Sound
I actually think it's the opposite -- that others think more highly of him, while we have a lesser opinion because we've seen his deficiencies, declining effort level, and starter entitlement complex up close.