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Post#1 » by Montanajazz » Wed Jul 3, 2013 5:49 am

What are jazz waiting for? Sign Calderon and Hickson or Landry Now!! One by one all the good possibilities are disappearing. We don't want all our own free agents back minus Jefferson!
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Post#2 » by AingesBurner » Wed Jul 3, 2013 6:00 am

I think we are waiting so we don't give out a horrendous contract, Calderon is out of our price range as a back up, and I would like Landry more than Millsap. We don't want Millsap or Jefferson back plus Jefferson is going to get the max most likely with Charlotte. If we don't get Landry, Psycho T is an option.
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Post#3 » by Spottieottie » Wed Jul 3, 2013 6:56 am

Tony Allen was the only good deal given out today. Maybe Martin too... I haven't really analyzed that one. The rest were pretty bad... well, I wouldn't be happy with us giving them out. We're waiting for the dust to settle. You had to know this was coming when KOC said "usually the contracts handed out in the first few days highly favor the player" during his latest weekly interview.
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Post#4 » by Kayariel » Wed Jul 3, 2013 12:27 pm

i have no problems with that. i'll be happy to see our young core blossom. i hope they get enough minutes and we shouldn't be on a hurry till the next draft. veteran mentor players will be welcome in this sense.
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Post#5 » by Winglish » Wed Jul 3, 2013 1:24 pm

Chris Broussard is reporting that Korver to New Jersey is off. I guess Korver wants to get paid also.

It appears the Jazz will fill out the roster with no-namers and Euros. They'll hand out a bunch of contracts that are not guaranteed next year. It's all part of the master plan. I'm certain the Jazz will try to absorb some other teams' unwanted salaries in exchange for picks.

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Post#6 » by The59Sound » Wed Jul 3, 2013 1:56 pm

Why would we be rushing to sign Calderon or Landry? To make sure we lock up our 8th seed contention for next season?
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Post#7 » by reapaman » Wed Jul 3, 2013 2:17 pm

First of all, the free agents you listed and the ones the Jazz have been rumored to go after have not committed anywhere so calm down. Second why would you want them anyway? To continue down the path od supreme medicoreness? Last and most importantly ..... some teams and free agents are waiting for Dwight to make a decision (which could be a while if he ever makes it) because then the teams that don't get him go to their plan B's and thats when the max contracts start coming out . So just sit tight, thing will pop off sooner or hopefully nothing really pops off besides some minor deals for us. Son't want us doing anything else stupid.
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Post#8 » by king everything » Wed Jul 3, 2013 2:28 pm

Its not the year to sign bad contracts for mediocre players. Its the year to avoid it at all costs.
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Post#9 » by HolyToledo12 » Wed Jul 3, 2013 3:14 pm

I don't think the Jazz sign any free agents. I think the Jazz are waiting for Friday for howard to announce where he is signing and if the Lakers the Jazz trade for Gasol, and if GSW then Jazz trade for Bogut but if somewhere else then likely over pay for Millsap. Randy Foye and Tinsely back on one year contracts as well.

Gasol and Bogut are both on expiring contracts and allow Kanter to come off the bench one more season. Eventually Evans needs to play as well, otherwise why do we keep re-signing him.
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Post#10 » by CallMeKahn » Wed Jul 3, 2013 3:38 pm

Montanajazz wrote:What are jazz waiting for? Sign Calderon and Hickson or Landry Now!! One by one all the good possibilities are disappearing. We don't want all our own free agents back minus Jefferson!


Why? Just for the sake of signing someone? Do you want the Jazz to turn into the Bucks? :lol:

The FO know exactly what they are doing right now. Fill out the roster, grow the young guns, collect assets to improve the team, and bide their time for the right moment, which inevitably comes (how we got Boozer, Deron, Burke, etc).

The Jazz will not sign someone for the sake of making a splash. Inevitably, that backfires down the line because the jazz have to overpay for FAs. Invariably, those contracts become sources of regret later.

Patience bro.
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Post#11 » by The59Sound » Wed Jul 3, 2013 3:43 pm

HolyToledo12 wrote:I don't think the Jazz sign any free agents. I think the Jazz are waiting for Friday for howard to announce where he is signing and if the Lakers the Jazz trade for Gasol, and if GSW then Jazz trade for Bogut but if somewhere else then likely over pay for Millsap. Randy Foye and Tinsely back on one year contracts as well.

Gasol and Bogut are both on expiring contracts and allow Kanter to come off the bench one more season. Eventually Evans needs to play as well, otherwise why do we keep re-signing him.


As much as Andrew Bogut doesn't fit where we're going at all, I would enjoy seeing him play here. Toughness, boards, and passing.
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Post#12 » by BJSmiles » Wed Jul 3, 2013 3:52 pm

I really do enjoy seeing all these teams fall all over themselves offering terrible deals to players that are not game changers. Each bad contract takes one potential player for the Jazz to overpay off the board. What I hope happens is that nobody is left and the Jazz avoid making these mistakes altogether.

It also makes me think the management is certainly not in the "win now" mindset, which is very good for our young core. This is a great sign!
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Post#13 » by JazzFan32 » Wed Jul 3, 2013 5:04 pm

BJSmiles wrote:I really do enjoy seeing all these teams fall all over themselves offering terrible deals to players that are not game changers. Each bad contract takes one potential player for the Jazz to overpay off the board. What I hope happens is that nobody is left and the Jazz avoid making these mistakes altogether.

It also makes me think the management is certainly not in the "win now" mindset, which is very good for our young core. This is a great sign!


I totally agree. All these players the Jazz have been rumored to have been interested in (Reddick, Budinger, Splitter, Mayo, Copeland, Blair, and Kover) all stink in my opinion. Why would the Jazz pay them big bucks when its clear the Jazz are going to have to pay Favors and Hayward this upcoming season. Let the rest of the league overpay and take these losers off the market, I don't wan't any of them on the Jazz.
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Post#14 » by sunevisions » Wed Jul 3, 2013 7:13 pm

HolyToledo12 wrote:I don't think the Jazz sign any free agents. I think the Jazz are waiting for Friday for howard to announce where he is signing and if the Lakers the Jazz trade for Gasol, and if GSW then Jazz trade for Bogut but if somewhere else then likely over pay for Millsap. Randy Foye and Tinsely back on one year contracts as well.

Gasol and Bogut are both on expiring contracts and allow Kanter to come off the bench one more season. Eventually Evans needs to play as well, otherwise why do we keep re-signing him.


No way for the Jazz to trade for Bogut~~

Bogut will go to Lakers~~

But I do hope Jazz can get Gasol for 1 Year Rental~~
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Post#15 » by king everything » Wed Jul 3, 2013 7:23 pm

sunevisions wrote:
HolyToledo12 wrote:I don't think the Jazz sign any free agents. I think the Jazz are waiting for Friday for howard to announce where he is signing and if the Lakers the Jazz trade for Gasol, and if GSW then Jazz trade for Bogut but if somewhere else then likely over pay for Millsap. Randy Foye and Tinsely back on one year contracts as well.

Gasol and Bogut are both on expiring contracts and allow Kanter to come off the bench one more season. Eventually Evans needs to play as well, otherwise why do we keep re-signing him.


No way for the Jazz to trade for Bogut~~


IDK how that figures- they want space for Dwight, we've got the space. I wouldn't guarantee it, but I wouldn't just write it off either without reason. We'd be a prime trade partner for GSW. I certainly see us getting him before the Lakers do- can't imagine GSW is keen to help a division rival.
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Post#16 » by sunevisions » Wed Jul 3, 2013 7:34 pm

I think the Jazz plan is Develop Young Core this year, Build up Assets (Future) by eating bad Contracts, and Sign for some underrated young Player~~

1, Develop our Young 5 Core is the 1st priority, give them mins to play for development~~

2, We are not a Win Now Situation, and we don't have enough assets to build up as Contender~~ So eat up some bad contract for Future draft is make sense~~

May be Dallas Marion & Vin Carter for Protect Pick

3, For Signing Underrated Young, I think Jazz can offer 3-4 Years contract, which can create the competitive in Our team, also build up the asset during the development. When our young Core develop to Star, this type of player can be valuable asset in future trade~~

We already miss 2 piece of player, Mayor & Budinger~~ especially Mayor, he know our systems, young enough, potential to be starter. now we should focus on Blair, Mayo~~
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Post#17 » by sunevisions » Wed Jul 3, 2013 7:38 pm

king everything wrote:
sunevisions wrote:
HolyToledo12 wrote:I don't think the Jazz sign any free agents. I think the Jazz are waiting for Friday for howard to announce where he is signing and if the Lakers the Jazz trade for Gasol, and if GSW then Jazz trade for Bogut but if somewhere else then likely over pay for Millsap. Randy Foye and Tinsely back on one year contracts as well.

Gasol and Bogut are both on expiring contracts and allow Kanter to come off the bench one more season. Eventually Evans needs to play as well, otherwise why do we keep re-signing him.


No way for the Jazz to trade for Bogut~~


IDK how that figures- they want space for Dwight, we've got the space. I wouldn't guarantee it, but I wouldn't just write it off either without reason. We'd be a prime trade partner for GSW. I certainly see us getting him before the Lakers do- can't imagine GSW is keen to help a division rival.


If Howard sign with GWS by cap space, he will lost 30M as total. So if Howard really want to play for GWS, he will be S&T and Bogut will be the Key~~
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Post#18 » by HolyToledo12 » Wed Jul 3, 2013 8:26 pm

Howard and GSW prefer sign and trade which gets Howard most money where Lakers rumored get Harrison Barnes and Bogut but since Lakers likely don't want Bogut then likely they be calling the Jazz so maybe Jazz can squeeze them by taking on Bogut's contract and a GSW #1 pick for someone like Tomic
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Post#19 » by No-Man » Wed Jul 3, 2013 8:44 pm

You should not sign anybody, just get some vets with one year deals in exchange of gaining a pick from a team with tax problems.

Be the dump for other teams and play the youngsters full time.
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Post#20 » by CallMeKahn » Wed Jul 3, 2013 9:05 pm

Fischella wrote:You should not sign anybody, just get some vets with one year deals in exchange of gaining a pick from a team with tax problems.

Be the dump for other teams and play the youngsters full time.


No argument here. 8-)
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