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Favors PER 22.4,Gobert PER 21.2,Hayward PER 20,Kanter PER 19

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 8:15 pm
by tleikheen
From the start of training camp some here of been saying the strength of the Jazz was going to be the Jazz big men.Coach Snyder tryed to play smallball with making Kanter the stretch 4.Some guys here got Booker fever and wanted to dump Kanter for anybody and play permanently smallball.
Well now the Jazz players producing the most are the Jazz big men .This is where the emphasis for the rest of the season needs to stay.Contrary to the trade machine guys who are constantly wanting to trade someone ,Kanter the 1st twenty games ,maybe it's going to be Favors the next 20 games.All three of the Jazz big men need to be kept,theirs enough minutes in the 96 minutes for them to play .
What is now necessary now is for Exum to start getting more of Trey Burke's minutes.Their's more faith that Exum will be able to get the Jazz big men the ball where they need to be even more productive .There's alot more reason to excited about Jazz basketball with Exum working with Gobert ,Favors and Kanter .

Re: Favors PER 22.4,Gobert PER 21.2,Hayward PER 20,Kanter PE

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 8:39 pm
by AingesBurner
I actually agree, Id trade Hayward or Burks before those 3.

Re: Favors PER 22.4,Gobert PER 21.2,Hayward PER 20,Kanter PE

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 9:45 pm
by jjscap
PER can be misleading. Try WP :http://www.boxscoregeeks.com/teams/uth?season=2014

Re: Favors PER 22.4,Gobert PER 21.2,Hayward PER 20,Kanter PE

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 12:22 am
by StocktonShorts
jjscap wrote:PER can be misleading. Try WP :http://www.boxscoregeeks.com/teams/uth?season=2014


I'm all for developing smart advanced metrics, but anything that puts Joe Ingles that far ahead of Enes Kanter doesn't pass the smell test.

And I say that as someone who has been more critical than most of Kanter this year.

Re: Favors PER 22.4,Gobert PER 21.2,Hayward PER 20,Kanter PE

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 9:28 pm
by dautjazz
StocktonShorts wrote:
jjscap wrote:PER can be misleading. Try WP :http://www.boxscoregeeks.com/teams/uth?season=2014


I'm all for developing smart advanced metrics, but anything that puts Joe Ingles that far ahead of Enes Kanter doesn't pass the smell test.

And I say that as someone who has been more critical than most of Kanter this year.


DeAndre Jordan has a MUCH higher WP than Lebron James, and DJ and Reddick are higher thank Blake Griffin. Yeah, I'll take PER any day. PER is not misleading, it adds positives (FG makes, points, rebounds, etc..), substracts negatives (FG misses, turnovers, etc..), and factors in minutes played. For what it measures, it's probably the best tool out there. There are some players that play like 18mpg, and they will have some crazy good PER, and they don't get big minutes maybe because they are a liability on defense. Well, that's why you don't compage someone who averages starter minutes to someone who does reserve minutes. You need to look at a lot of metrics to get a better picture, but in the end sometimes you need the eye test.