Around the NBA, Season 2016-2017

Daddy 801 · Post #1081 » by **Daddy 801** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 4:49 pm

Winglish wrote:
MTJazzv3 wrote:
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OKC is going all in.

Wow. OKC changing it up yet again. Enes is going to hate NYC. OKC will be "interesting". Might regret McBuckets trade. What is their long-term play???

I think Enes will LOVE New York City. He likes the night life and he is going to get the ball a lot on that Knicks squad.

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And there is a huge Muslim population in NY. He is going to get his stats so he will be happy.

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MTJazzv3 · Post #1082 » by **MTJazzv3** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:07 pm

Trey B apparently still getting bad advice - pulled out of "tryout" with OKC. Kid needs to play overseas at this point.

UTJazzFan_Echo1 · Post #1083 » by **UTJazzFan_Echo1** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:07 pm

The more I think about the trade, the less I like it for OKC and the more I like it for the Knicks.

stitches · Post #1084 » by **stitches** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 8:33 pm

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stitches · Post #1085 » by **stitches** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 8:34 pm

UTJazzFan_Echo1 wrote:The more I think about the trade, the less I like it for OKC and the more I like it for the Knicks.

I like it for both. Makes sense direction-wise for both teams and value is alright.

KqWIN · Post #1086 » by **KqWIN** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 8:56 pm

Hoodie Melo, Playoff Paul George, and Angry Russell Westbrook.

Name a more iconic big 3.

zero24gravity · Post #1087 » by **zero24gravity** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:42 pm

eLo wrote:im not big fan of Presti but he shows what real active GM can do even on smal market, when he truly wants... but about Jazz Lindsey is not Presti so i dont know is there any hope for us although im not very disappointed with DL current offseason moves, we would be in much better situation is Lindsey could pull strings just a lila bit like Presti can

The reason that he went to OKC wasn't because of the GM, it was because of Westbrook/George. Melo had a no trade clause, so it's not like Lindsey could have traded for him even if the Jazz wanted Melo. Silly to say Presti is doing something that Lindsey doesn't have the competency to do.

Maybe Rudy will turn into a guy who can grab another NBA star & convince him to come to the Jazz, but I think that's unlikely. Gobert is special & a star, but the big Frenchman isn't in the same circles as the bulk of NBA Stars, as far as I know.

zero24gravity · Post #1088 » by **zero24gravity** » Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:49 pm

Inigo Montoya wrote:Kanter is going to put ungodly numbers with the Knicks if he'll get to play 30+ minutes per game. His rebounding numbers especially could be monstrous and he could be a 20-10+ guy.

On the downside, the Knicks are going to lose a lot of games and their defense will suck, due to their overall not-so-great roster.

The Knicks are even worse off than I thought if they give Kanter 30+ minutes. No reason they should do that if they have any interest in winning OR if they are building for the future. Playing a a player who is in it for his stats, not the W won't get them better, won't help them win now, and certainly won't help other players develop, like; Hernangomez, Kuzminskas, or even Porzingis for that matter.

I know the Knicks had to get something for him, but this is a really minimal haul. Almost seems like a negative to me. Traded a veteran who was a negative impact on the team, in exchange for Kanter, who is a negative, a 2nd round pick and Doug McDermott. Wow, so to me this is pretty much Melo for McDermott. How the mighty have fallen, when your value is so low, Melo.

UTJazzFan_Echo1 · Post #1089 » by **UTJazzFan_Echo1** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 12:46 am

zero24gravity wrote:
Inigo Montoya wrote:Kanter is going to put ungodly numbers with the Knicks if he'll get to play 30+ minutes per game. His rebounding numbers especially could be monstrous and he could be a 20-10+ guy.

On the downside, the Knicks are going to lose a lot of games and their defense will suck, due to their overall not-so-great roster.

The Knicks are even worse off than I thought if they give Kanter 30+ minutes. No reason they should do that if they have any interest in winning OR if they are building for the future. Playing a a player who is in it for his stats, not the W won't get them better, won't help them win now, and certainly won't help other players develop, like; Hernangomez, Kuzminskas, or even Porzingis for that matter.

I know the Knicks had to get something for him, but this is a really minimal haul. Almost seems like a negative to me. Traded a veteran who was a negative impact on the team, in exchange for Kanter, who is a negative, a 2nd round pick and Doug McDermott. Wow, so to me this is pretty much Melo for McDermott. How the mighty have fallen, when your value is so low, Melo.

Ya'll realize that Kanter is a better player than Melo, right?

Daddy 801 · Post #1090 » by **Daddy 801** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:47 am

You guys are forgetting the Enes is the new tank commander for NY.

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Crunch 99 · Post #1091 » by **Crunch 99** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 12:49 pm

KqWIN wrote:Good situation for Melo. If he's willing to be Olympic Melo it will work out.

This. ^ I've never been a big fan of Melo, but at this stage of his career, my expectation is that he will probably do what is necessary to turn himself in to a nice complimentary player for MVP Westbrook. Melo is no dummy. He has been a winner before, winning both the NCAA and Olympics.

Crunch 99 · Post #1092 » by **Crunch 99** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:10 pm

Dwyane Wade Agrees Upon Buyout With Bulls
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/247496/Dwyane-Wade-Agrees-Upon-Buyout-With-Bulls

"The Cleveland Cavaliers, San Antonio Spurs and Miami Heat are considered the leaders for Wade once he clears waivers, according to Adrian Wojnarowski of ESPN."

I hope Wade signs with the Cavs, not because I am a Cavs fan, but because I think his addition to the Cavs would somewhat reduce the sense of Warrior inevitability. Wade already knows how to be a complimentary player to Lebron, and he might still be able to step up and make some key plays in the playoffs.

zero24gravity · Post #1093 » by **zero24gravity** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:11 pm

UTJazzFan_Echo1 wrote:Ya'll realize that Kanter is a better player than Melo, right?

Melo is a shell of his formerly overrated self ... and he's still more impactful than the stat chasing, no defense playing, bench player named Enes Kanter. There's a reason nobody wants him. (Except the Knicks, maybe. ... but that actually helps me make my point, now doesn't it? #worstrunteamintheNBA)

zero24gravity · Post #1094 » by **zero24gravity** » Tue Sep 26, 2017 11:21 pm

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/dwyane-wade-reaches-one-year-deal-with-cavaliers/ar-AAsuOCC?li=BBnb7Kz&OCID=DELLDHP

Wade officially joining the Cavs.

Went over the Cavs forum to see their reaction, and I can't even find a post about it. So weird.

stitches · Post #1095 » by **stitches** » Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:46 am

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Kyrie will finally turn Haywood into what some Jazz fans thought is his best role in the league - a role player.

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UTJazzFan_Echo1 · Post #1096 » by **UTJazzFan_Echo1** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 2:58 pm

zero24gravity wrote:
UTJazzFan_Echo1 wrote:Ya'll realize that Kanter is a better player than Melo, right?

Melo is a shell of his formerly overrated self ... and he's still more impactful than the stat chasing, no defense playing, bench player named Enes Kanter. There's a reason nobody wants him. (Except the Knicks, maybe. ... but that actually helps me make my point, now doesn't it? #worstrunteamintheNBA)

Kanter was one of the most efficient offensive players in the league last season. Not only that, he had a much better D-rating than Melo did this past season: Kanter's D-rating last year was 107, while Melo's was a whopping 111. Not only that, but Kanter is an elite rebounder.

He's far and away the better player.

stitches · Post #1097 » by **stitches** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 3:58 pm

I see this thread has been unpinned. SHould I make a new one for the new season?

stitches · Post #1098 » by **stitches** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 3:59 pm

In the meantime here's a players' tribune article by Frank Ntilikina that I liked:
https://www.theplayerstribune.com/frank-ntilikina-new-york-knicks/

There are so many likeable players coming into the league lately. I will root for Frank even though he doesn't play for us.

Post #1099 » by **Inigo Montoya** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 4:00 pm

stitches wrote:I see this thread has been unpinned. SHould I make a new one for the new season?

Maybe I did it? Weird. I'll pin it again. Let's make a new one once the season starts.

stitches · Post #1100 » by **stitches** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 4:01 pm

Inigo Montoya wrote:
stitches wrote:I see this thread has been unpinned. SHould I make a new one for the new season?

Maybe I did it? Weird. I'll pin it again. Let's make a new one once the season starts.

It's kind of like.. .the new season already. That's why I assumed we are preparing for the new thread.