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Post#621 » by Inigo Montoya » Sat Jan 1, 2022 7:15 pm

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Inigo Montoya wrote:Started watching season 2 of The Witcher. Unfortunately, same issues from season 1 persist so far. And man, do I hate the casting in this show. Other than Cavill who does a good job (and a few others like Jaskier/Dandelion and Ciri, though they made her much older than what she is in the books at this point of the story) they cast so many people who don't fit their role and have no charisma of gravitas that it undermines the entire show.

God I hate Jaskier, lol, I wish they'd just cut him from the show. I've enjoyed it, but never played the games or read the books.


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If you haven't read the books, don't let this show impact your view on the source material. Read the books and play the games. They are amazing.

I finished watching season 2 and I have absolutely no faith in the show runners, who should be replaced immediately. They've done a terrible job on so many fronts. The casting is terrible. I'm trying not to break my own rules when it comes to injecting politics here, I only wish the show runners had done the same and did not sacrifice the quality of the show in order to further a real world social/political agenda in a fantasy show by casting actors and actresses that don't fit. The books and games left them a fantastic template and a strong foundation for how to approach this show and they simply ignored it.

As I mentioned earlier, imho most of the characters on the show are miscast. I'm not crazy about Jaskier's casting decision either because I don't think the way he is portrayed is very faithful to the books, but I think the actor has enough comedic talent to make it work with what he's given. But other than Cavill and the actress who portrays Ciri, there is zero charisma and screen presence.

I don't think the show is redeemable at this point. Other than the first episode, the writers completely ignored the books and had the arrogance to write their own story which obviously is much inferior to the source material (books) or the games. And the showrunner had the unmitigated gull to speak before the season aired about how important it is to her to stick to the books and that she doesn't see the need to add anything to them, only to then completely discard what happens in the books. For the record, other than the first episode, nothing in season 2 happens in the books, in case this season turns people off of reading the books. They just took some important plot points from the books and wrote an entirely different story.

On that note, straying that far from the books and completely ignoring them is unforgivable, but also incredibly stupid. When Game of Thrones ran out of source material after season 5 (?), there was huge drop in the writing quality and the show became pretty bad, because the writers had to write their own stories around general plot points they got from GRR Martin, and obviously they weren't nearly as talented. But they had an excuse--they simply outpaced the books and ran out of source material. This isn't the case here. The book saga is finished. They have all the source material they could ever need, and yet, they decided to ignore all of it already in season 2. How arrogant do you have to be to think you could write something better, and why would you even try when the saga is complete and so good? Nobody is watching this show to see what stories the writers will invent from thin air--the reason they have an audience in the first place is because of the books and the games.

The reason I don't think the show is redeemable is the showrunner isn't going to be replaced, and that they have already strayed too far from the books and managed to reveal very important things that don't happen until the end of the last book while only in season 2, with weak reveals to boot. Also, the tone of the show is all over the place, and it sometime looks like something silly for teens like those Xena and Hercules shows instead of being much more serious like Game of Thrones, or The Wheel of Time (it's pretty good, I have to say).

Anyway, I've ranted long enough, even though I have so much more to say. If anyone managed to get through all of this and is looking for one takeaway, it's this--read the books and play the games. They are both amazing. The show does them no justice. They are incredible. No need to wait for the author to finish them either--the story is complete. Don't let the show mar your opinion of this franchise and dissuade you from checking it out. Do it--you won't regret it. Start with the books--they are awesome and my personal favorite fantasy series. And if anyone is wondering: yes, they are better than the A Song of Ice and Fire books (Game of Thrones).
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Re: The Official Jazz Off-Topic Thread 

Post#622 » by Inigo Montoya » Sat Jan 1, 2022 7:31 pm

On a related note (sort of) regarding books, I just finished The Three-Body Problem (the first of the three books in the series) by Liu Cixin, and I really liked it. Anyone who likes hard science fiction should check it out. Already started with the second book.

BTW, the books are being adapted to the screen both by Netflix with the Game of Thrones writers David Benioff and D. B. Weiss and since the books are complete, there's a chance that it'll actually be good, since they won't have to invent anything themselves. Tencent is also making its own adaptation (there is a already a trailer), so it's possible at least one of them will be released in 2022.
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