Donovan Mitchell Thread

[Catchall]

I think he'll be able to guard most of the 2s in the league. A long, athletic guy like DeRozan or Butler may be able to work him in the mid-range, but I think defensively Mitchell has enough versatility that it will help him get more floor time. He may not be a lead guard, but he'll be good as a secondary creator and he can shoot well enough to space the floor. He may take some minutes from Ingles and Sefalosha at the wing, as it gives the Jazz more athleticism and some intangibles.

[SoCalJazzFan]

I think he'll be able to guard most of the 2s in the league. A long, athletic guy like DeRozan or Butler may be able to work him in the mid-range, but I think defensively Mitchell has enough versatility that it will help him get more floor time. He may not be a lead guard, but he'll be good as a secondary creator and he can shoot well enough to space the floor. He may take some minutes from Ingles and Sefalosha at the wing, as it gives the Jazz more athleticism and some intangibles.

I am concerned about how well he can guard bigger players, particularly where 6'8" SGs are starting to become more common. However, I think that either the Jazz will pair him with a tall PG (Rubio/Exum) and let them both play as guards, switching as necessary, or that DM becomes the lead PG (let's be honest with ourselves, he is looking more like a PG than Exum at this point). Either way, I find this kid exciting.

[dr0welf]

Last year we had Jingles as our defensive stopper. Spida seems to pride himself on defense, I think he will be fine on most guards. If for some reason someones height is causing issues we still have Jingles.

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[AingesBurner]

DM is the most lauded rookie we've had since DWill, I am excited about this guy.

[Daddy 801]

I love Donovan. He was the player I wanted the most and we got him. His answers are so honest and on point. Love his work ethic and drive. It's cool to see him want to play with someone like Rudy.

[Luigi]

I think he'll be able to guard most of the 2s in the league. A long, athletic guy like DeRozan or Butler may be able to work him in the mid-range, but I think defensively Mitchell has enough versatility that it will help him get more floor time. He may not be a lead guard, but he'll be good as a secondary creator and he can shoot well enough to space the floor. He may take some minutes from Ingles and Sefalosha at the wing, as it gives the Jazz more athleticism and some intangibles.

Mitchel has a big length disadvantage against most 2s. He has the weight for it already, but I think he'll be better using that against other 1s that can't just shoot over him. It's nice that he could switch onto them though.

Player--No Shoes--Standing Reach--Weight
Mitchell -- 6'1.75 -- 8'1.00 -- 211

Average Dimensions Drafted into the NBA:
Position--No Shoes--Standing Reach--Weight
PG -- 6'1.25 -- 8'1.50 -- 185
SG -- 6'4.00 -- 8'4.75 -- 198
SF -- 6'6.75 -- 8'8.50 -- 215
PF -- 6'8.25 -- 8'11.50 -- 229
C -- 6'10.50 -- 9'2.25 -- 245

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CP3 hosting summer workouts for some rookies. Donovan was there, along with Malik Monk, Harry Giles, Elfrid Payton:

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I love it that he's working out with some of the best in the league.

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Also, here's more from Mitchell playing with Carmelo, JR Smith and others:

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I have a feeling that Mitchell is going to end up being one of those players that players from around the league will want to come here to play with. Between he and Rudy they could turn into quite the recruiting tool.

[WinterSoldier]

I think he'll be able to guard most of the 2s in the league. A long, athletic guy like DeRozan or Butler may be able to work him in the mid-range, but I think defensively Mitchell has enough versatility that it will help him get more floor time. He may not be a lead guard, but he'll be good as a secondary creator and he can shoot well enough to space the floor. He may take some minutes from Ingles and Sefalosha at the wing, as it gives the Jazz more athleticism and some intangibles.

Mitchel has a big length disadvantage against most 2s. He has the weight for it already, but I think he'll be better using that against other 1s that can't just shoot over him. It's nice that he could switch onto them though.

Player--No Shoes--Standing Reach--Weight
Mitchell -- 6'1.75 -- 8'1.00 -- 211

Average Dimensions Drafted into the NBA:
Position--No Shoes--Standing Reach--Weight
PG -- 6'1.25 -- 8'1.50 -- 185
SG -- 6'4.00 -- 8'4.75 -- 198
SF -- 6'6.75 -- 8'8.50 -- 215
PF -- 6'8.25 -- 8'11.50 -- 229
C -- 6'10.50 -- 9'2.25 -- 245

The 8'1" standing reach isn't accurate, he measured 8'4" standing reach on several previous occasions. He purposely measured low at the NBA combine to make his vertical look better.

[Luigi]

I think he'll be able to guard most of the 2s in the league. A long, athletic guy like DeRozan or Butler may be able to work him in the mid-range, but I think defensively Mitchell has enough versatility that it will help him get more floor time. He may not be a lead guard, but he'll be good as a secondary creator and he can shoot well enough to space the floor. He may take some minutes from Ingles and Sefalosha at the wing, as it gives the Jazz more athleticism and some intangibles.

Mitchel has a big length disadvantage against most 2s. He has the weight for it already, but I think he'll be better using that against other 1s that can't just shoot over him. It's nice that he could switch onto them though.

Player--No Shoes--Standing Reach--Weight
Mitchell -- 6'1.75 -- 8'1.00 -- 211

Average Dimensions Drafted into the NBA:
Position--No Shoes--Standing Reach--Weight
PG -- 6'1.25 -- 8'1.50 -- 185
SG -- 6'4.00 -- 8'4.75 -- 198
SF -- 6'6.75 -- 8'8.50 -- 215
PF -- 6'8.25 -- 8'11.50 -- 229
C -- 6'10.50 -- 9'2.25 -- 245

The 8'1" standing reach isn't accurate, he measured 8'4" standing reach on several previous occasions. He purposely measured low at the NBA combine to make his vertical look better.

That would be good news. Do you have a source? The draftexpress page is only showing his combine numbers, and they are pretty good about collecting past measurements.

Shrugging on the reach to get the vert definitely happens. But it surprises me that people care more about vert than they do about reach. Good defense is often on the ground. But yeah, link?

[Winglish]

I think he'll be able to guard most of the 2s in the league. A long, athletic guy like DeRozan or Butler may be able to work him in the mid-range, but I think defensively Mitchell has enough versatility that it will help him get more floor time. He may not be a lead guard, but he'll be good as a secondary creator and he can shoot well enough to space the floor. He may take some minutes from Ingles and Sefalosha at the wing, as it gives the Jazz more athleticism and some intangibles.

Mitchel has a big length disadvantage against most 2s. He has the weight for it already, but I think he'll be better using that against other 1s that can't just shoot over him. It's nice that he could switch onto them though.

Player--No Shoes--Standing Reach--Weight
Mitchell -- 6'1.75 -- 8'1.00 -- 211

Average Dimensions Drafted into the NBA:
Position--No Shoes--Standing Reach--Weight
PG -- 6'1.25 -- 8'1.50 -- 185
SG -- 6'4.00 -- 8'4.75 -- 198
SF -- 6'6.75 -- 8'8.50 -- 215
PF -- 6'8.25 -- 8'11.50 -- 229
C -- 6'10.50 -- 9'2.25 -- 245

What about Mitchell playing SG on offense and guarding PG's while a taller poimt guard runs the point and defends the SG's?

Anyone know where the team might find a really tall point guard who can defend the shooting guard position?

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[Luigi]

I think he'll be able to guard most of the 2s in the league. A long, athletic guy like DeRozan or Butler may be able to work him in the mid-range, but I think defensively Mitchell has enough versatility that it will help him get more floor time. He may not be a lead guard, but he'll be good as a secondary creator and he can shoot well enough to space the floor. He may take some minutes from Ingles and Sefalosha at the wing, as it gives the Jazz more athleticism and some intangibles.

Mitchel has a big length disadvantage against most 2s. He has the weight for it already, but I think he'll be better using that against other 1s that can't just shoot over him. It's nice that he could switch onto them though.

Player--No Shoes--Standing Reach--Weight
Mitchell -- 6'1.75 -- 8'1.00 -- 211

Average Dimensions Drafted into the NBA:
Position--No Shoes--Standing Reach--Weight
PG -- 6'1.25 -- 8'1.50 -- 185
SG -- 6'4.00 -- 8'4.75 -- 198
SF -- 6'6.75 -- 8'8.50 -- 215
PF -- 6'8.25 -- 8'11.50 -- 229
C -- 6'10.50 -- 9'2.25 -- 245

What about Mitchell playing SG on offense and guarding PG's while a taller poimt guard runs the point and defends the SG's?

Anyone know where the team might find a really tall point guard who can defend the shooting guard position?

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I define positions by size more than anything. If Mitchell wants to play off the ball on offense, that's fine. 1s don't have to have point duties. If Exum decides to play like a man this year, maybe it would work.

Most of the talk here has been about Mitchell guarding 2s and 3s. I think he should stick to guarding 1s unless he gets in a pnr situation he cant get around.

[WinterSoldier]

Mitchel has a big length disadvantage against most 2s. He has the weight for it already, but I think he'll be better using that against other 1s that can't just shoot over him. It's nice that he could switch onto them though.

Player--No Shoes--Standing Reach--Weight
Mitchell -- 6'1.75 -- 8'1.00 -- 211

Average Dimensions Drafted into the NBA:
Position--No Shoes--Standing Reach--Weight
PG -- 6'1.25 -- 8'1.50 -- 185
SG -- 6'4.00 -- 8'4.75 -- 198
SF -- 6'6.75 -- 8'8.50 -- 215
PF -- 6'8.25 -- 8'11.50 -- 229
C -- 6'10.50 -- 9'2.25 -- 245

The 8'1" standing reach isn't accurate, he measured 8'4" standing reach on several previous occasions. He purposely measured low at the NBA combine to make his vertical look better.

That would be good news. Do you have a source? The draftexpress page is only showing his combine numbers, and they are pretty good about collecting past measurements.

Shrugging on the reach to get the vert definitely happens. But it surprises me that people care more about vert than they do about reach. Good defense is often on the ground. But yeah, link?

http://www.nbadraft.net/2017-extended-mock-draft-40
He's # 28 in this mock but you can read he has a 8'4 standing reach. He was measured in Adida's Nation and the Derby Classic both times he had 8'4 standing reach. I can't find those measurements but the mock draft people obivously knew about the measurements.

[Luigi]

The 8'1" standing reach isn't accurate, he measured 8'4" standing reach on several previous occasions. He purposely measured low at the NBA combine to make his vertical look better.

That would be good news. Do you have a source? The draftexpress page is only showing his combine numbers, and they are pretty good about collecting past measurements.

Shrugging on the reach to get the vert definitely happens. But it surprises me that people care more about vert than they do about reach. Good defense is often on the ground. But yeah, link?

http://www.nbadraft.net/2017-extended-mock-draft-40
He's # 28 in this mock but you can read he has a 8'4 standing reach. He was measured in Adida's Nation and the Derby Classic both times he had 8'4 standing reach. I can't find those measurements but the mock draft people obivously knew about the measurements.

This is promising. I wonder what happened to the adidas and derby measurements.

[Catchall]

The more I watch him play in these pick-up games, the more I think Mitchell can ultimately replace George Hill at the 1. His athleticism and offensive versatility become more of an advantage against PGs. He can wrap up most 1s defensively and bully them offensively. He can elevate anytime he wants and get a good look. Next to Hood at the 2, the Jazz would have two potential 20-point scorers in the backcourt and have good length at both positions.

I understand if Rubio is a wizard running the pick-and-roll with Gobert, or if Exum can keep improving his Tony Parker impersonation, but it's nice to have the option to play Mitchell on the ball.

[Paper Face]

I understand if Rubio is a wizard running the pick-and-roll with Gobert, or if Exum can keep improving his Tony Parker impersonation, but it's nice to have the option to play Mitchell on the ball.

It's not the worst problem in the world. It's not like having two quarterbacks. Quinn can rotate Mitchell, Rubio, and Exum at the 1 & 2 spots to great effect according to who we play, and play Hood/Thabo at the 3. Advanced stats place a lot of Ingles best minutes at the 4, so he can effectively play there. Favors and Gobert complete that 8-man playoff rotation.

If I'm Quinn, and Mitchell is the type of defensive attacker that he appears to be, then I think you are right. Send him out there to cover the 1. But I think there are a lot of 2s that he will be effective against also.

[Catchall]

Also, here's more from Mitchell playing with Carmelo, JR Smith and others:

[Luigi]

We need to see him in an actual NBA game before we get too high on this kid. He's gonna disappoint if we keep getting ahead of ourselves.