Should He Stay or Should He Go?- Rodney Hood

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Should He Stay or Should He Go?- Rodney Hood 

Post#1 » by SoCalJazzFan » Thu Jan 4, 2018 11:22 pm

I think it would be interesting to see folks' opinions about various players as the trade deadline approaches as to why the Jazz should trade them or keep them. First up, Rodney Hood.

Reasons to keep=
Can create own shot.

Has high scoring potential.

Could whiff on free agency and be had for decent contract (low teens or lower).

Could be great 6th man, late bloomer, etc. and we wish we would have kept him.

Reasons to trade=
Wildly inconsistent, e.g., over the first five of the last 11 games (Dec 13-20) he shot 54.5% 3pt, but over the last six games only 27.6%. Only 4 games of the last 11 shooting at least 45% overall (i.e. sometimes he is hot from behind arc, but overall not great).

Seems to be injury prone, and has some mystery condition (nerves, stomach, ?) that also causes him to miss games here and there.

His defense is lacking.

Could end up with expensive contract (high teens or higher).

Low assists and not a great rebounder.

Chance he never becomes better player than he has been as he is now at 25 years old and several years in NBA under his belt (I was expecting him to break out this year, and he just hasn't).

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There is also the question as to whether teams would view Hood as a desirable (scorer, upside) or undesirable (free agent, potentially costly to resign) piece of a trade and what the Jazz could get by trading him either alone or as part of a package.
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Post#2 » by AingesBurner » Thu Jan 4, 2018 11:38 pm

I only want Hood at 12 mill or less.
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Post#3 » by Rauxcee » Thu Jan 4, 2018 11:44 pm

I'm fine with the Jazz keeping him as a bench player on a reasonable contract. He's not reliable enough to be a starter and shouldn't be paid a big contract because of his weaknesses.
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Post#4 » by sipclip » Thu Jan 4, 2018 11:46 pm

He is so damn frustrating. One second I want to keep him and the next I want to trade him. If we do trade him it has to be during a hot streak to get top value but no one ever seems to trade a player when they are going well. The deal I would want to see is Hood to the Sixers for Bolden and there 1st. This deal only happens though when he is really playing well.

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Post#5 » by zero24gravity » Thu Jan 4, 2018 11:50 pm

Hood ... oh, he should go. That was easy.

Alec, Mitchell, Ingles, O'Neale and co. can make up for anything he does, and then some. Yes, I love it when he gets hot, but it doesn't balance with the nights like vs the Pelicans yesterday (1-10 FG + 4 TO's) where he can't hit a shot to save his life, but doesn't do anything else to balance it out. He's only mediocre on D, allergic to contact, and has no interest in going to the basket. Also, the injuries are simply too much to endure. Trade him for whatever you can get for him. Best case scenario, he is moved as part of a bigger deal (Rubio? Favs?) and brings back a player or asset that will play 70+ games & be more consistent.

That may sound harsh, and I don't mean it to be that way. I don't dislike Hood, I just don't want to see the team re-sign him to a $15m+, multi-year deal, when there have to be better ways to spend that money. If he was a $9-10m guy, then he's worth the risk of keeping as a unidimensional bench scorer.

... I mean, he's essentially a Nick Young-type (without the stupid nickname). Young makes $6m and plays about 20 minutes a game, but when he gets hot, you play him a bunch and ride the hot hand. When he's not hot, he sits, cause there's no other reason to play him.
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Post#6 » by Lava Rock Kid » Fri Jan 5, 2018 12:13 am

Keep him only on a burks type of contract.
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Post#7 » by Stern Fixer » Fri Jan 5, 2018 12:23 am

I like the Nick Young analogy and definitely can easily see both sides to this. I'm in favor of re-signing him if it's twelve or less (as somebody else said), because of those rare nights he goes unconscious and saves the day. I've advocated for him in the past, because a) I do see a ton of untapped potential, and b) he seems like a good kid (I've talked quite a bit with his dad - nice guy, when I floored in the casino). That being said, it's gotten to where I'd like to see what Burks could do with his minutes, because I believe he's more consistent and a better all around team player.
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Post#8 » by MalonesElbows » Fri Jan 5, 2018 12:48 am

His bricktastic days are back. Surprise surprise. Yes his numbers are overall decent this year, but he also gets to play against other teams benches. I'd cut him loose.
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Post#9 » by KqWIN » Fri Jan 5, 2018 1:24 am

I think he is what he is at this point, but that doesn't mean he's useless. He's in a weird spot for me right now because I have no idea what his FA market is going be like, but I'm guessing his trade value is very low. I don't think teams look at him as a desirable asset and that's something to remember when talking about trading our players. The most talked about players as far as trades are Rubio, Favors, and Hood. Nobody wants Rubio while Favors and Hood are upcoming FA's.
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Post#10 » by Daddy 801 » Fri Jan 5, 2018 1:48 am

He is an off the bench 3rd-4th option on any given night. I'll keep him but only at off the bench prices.


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Post#11 » by Cappy_Smurf » Fri Jan 5, 2018 3:08 am

I think you have to gamble on signing him to a good deal. He's a much more valuable trade chip on a good deal next year than he is right now.
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Post#12 » by babyjax13 » Fri Jan 5, 2018 4:38 am

I'd trade him if we can, if we can't, he's worth Ingles' money, probably Fournier money, and can be moved.
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Post#13 » by Crunch 99 » Fri Jan 5, 2018 1:24 pm

If Hood plays the rest of the season roughly in line with what he has been doing so far this season, I would consider re-signing him for $12 mill per year or less as a bench player. Also, between now and the end of the season, I think the Jazz should give Burks more run than Hood in some of the games to see what Burks does with it.

Stitches mentioned that the Hood camp was probably viewing Denver's Gary Harris as a comp last summer, who got an $84m/4 year new contract (Stitches didn't want to extend Hood at that money), but 23 year old Gary Harris has continued to advance his game this season, whereas 25 year old Hood hasn't moved the needle by many numbers, especially with regard to advanced metrics where he has seen some declines. Hood's overall 39.6% three point shooting on 7.1 attempts per game this season is very impressive, but his 14.3 PER is below the league average 15, his minus 4.3 NET RATING at NBA.com sucks, his minus 2.5 BOX PLUS MINUS at Basketball Reference sucks and his minus 2.78 RPM at ESPN sucks. For RPM, which is generally viewed as a pretty good advanced metric, Gary Harris is now ranked an impressive #3 for shooting guards at plus 4.05, whereas Hood is ranked #91 for shooting guards at minus 2.78. Ouch!
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Post#14 » by sipclip » Fri Jan 5, 2018 1:48 pm

zero24gravity wrote:Hood ... oh, he should go. That was easy.

Alec, Mitchell, Ingles, O'Neale and co. can make up for anything he does, and then some. Yes, I love it when he gets hot, but it doesn't balance with the nights like vs the Pelicans yesterday (1-10 FG + 4 TO's) where he can't hit a shot to save his life, but doesn't do anything else to balance it out. He's only mediocre on D, allergic to contact, and has no interest in going to the basket. Also, the injuries are simply too much to endure. Trade him for whatever you can get for him. Best case scenario, he is moved as part of a bigger deal (Rubio? Favs?) and brings back a player or asset that will play 70+ games & be more consistent.

That may sound harsh, and I don't mean it to be that way. I don't dislike Hood, I just don't want to see the team re-sign him to a $15m+, multi-year deal, when there have to be better ways to spend that money. If he was a $9-10m guy, then he's worth the risk of keeping as a unidimensional bench scorer.

... I mean, he's essentially a Nick Young-type (without the stupid nickname). Young makes $6m and plays about 20 minutes a game, but when he gets hot, you play him a bunch and ride the hot hand. When he's not hot, he sits, cause there's no other reason to play him.

Last night Gerald Green came to mind when thinking of Hood. I don't think much separates them as players.

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Post#15 » by Inigo Montoya » Fri Jan 5, 2018 2:53 pm

In the context of making the team somewhat competitive, I'd say keep him if he can be had on a good deal, due to the tough free agency market ahead. I'm talking low to mid teens. But that's just to help this team treadmilling for the foreseeable future. I'd rather see this team go in another direction entirely.
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Post#16 » by Dry Fly » Fri Jan 5, 2018 4:20 pm

Do we really want a no defense inconsistent shooting glass body taking up cap space?  Yeah I kind of fell in love with that ultra smooth shot too, but there really isn't any more than that.
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Post#17 » by mark53 » Fri Jan 5, 2018 6:10 pm

If he has a great second half i think he gets too expensive to be part of this core. If he dosent then then we probably move away from him in free agency anyhow. If a deal presents itself i think he has to traded, probably to a contender looking for a bench scoring rental for a very low 1st. Toronto comes to mind as a landing spot but im pretty sure they dont have a 1st so i cant think at the moment where he could be desired.
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Post#18 » by SoCalJazzFan » Fri Jan 5, 2018 8:32 pm

I'm a little surprised at how low people are on Hood. I expected more of a division of opinion. Perhaps the recent slump plays into this, or perhaps his failure to improve this year and unmet expectations.

So, if we are only interested in keeping Hood if he is on a good deal ($12M or less seems to be the common thought), we should probably trade him while we can if we can get decent return instead of risking no return in FA or hoping that we can flip him later, for which there is no guarantee if he isn't desirable now or during FA.
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Post#19 » by SoCalJazzFan » Fri Jan 5, 2018 8:35 pm

mark53 wrote:If he has a great second half i think he gets too expensive to be part of this core. If he dosent then then we probably move away from him in free agency anyhow. If a deal presents itself i think he has to traded, probably to a contender looking for a bench scoring rental for a very low 1st. Toronto comes to mind as a landing spot but im pretty sure they dont have a 1st so i cant think at the moment where he could be desired.

Philly desperately needs wing shooters/scorers. Colagenlo was brought in to transition from asset acquisition to getting to the playoffs and might part with either their 1st (high teens or low 20s if they make the playoffs) or Saric for Hood. The 76ers are going to get at least one top 10 pick (most likely) this year or next, so their own first probably isn't as valuable to them in the year that they get that high pick, particularly since they have a ton of young players as it is.
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Post#20 » by KqWIN » Fri Jan 5, 2018 9:05 pm

If Hood for Saric was actually on the table I think you’d have to do it. I don’t think it is though. Saric is playing well, Hood is playing horrific.

Taking on Bayless night help, but I don’t see Philly moving Dario.

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