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Jazz having the "best, most competitive workout" (with Musa), then Locke suddenly slots Musa as the Jazz's pick...
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KqWIN wrote:Why are we talking about Middleton, Harris, and Porter?
The real decision the Jazz FO is making is between Continuity, Cap Flexibility, and Cash Considerations.
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Inigo Montoya wrote:Jazz having the "best, most competitive workout" (with Musa), then Locke suddenly slots Musa as the Jazz's pick...
...and Perrin raving about Musa here:
and saying they took him out to dinner before the workout...
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The Jazz certainly don't think of Exum as a PG according to this video.
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Inigo Montoya wrote:The Jazz certainly don't think of Exum as a PG according to this video.
Exum is closer to a 3 than to 1 IMO.... In essence he's a wing.
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stitches wrote:Inigo Montoya wrote:The Jazz certainly don't think of Exum as a PG according to this video.
Exum is closer to a 3 than to 1 IMO.... In essence he's a wing.
Can't imagine why he'd want to stay if that is the case.
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Inigo Montoya wrote:stitches wrote:Inigo Montoya wrote:The Jazz certainly don't think of Exum as a PG according to this video.
Exum is closer to a 3 than to 1 IMO.... In essence he's a wing.
Can't imagine why he'd want to stay if that is the case.
Maybe because no other team would want him to play the 1? With this 25% TOV rate in the playoffs and all...
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stitches wrote:Inigo Montoya wrote:stitches wrote:Exum is closer to a 3 than to 1 IMO.... In essence he's a wing.
Can't imagine why he'd want to stay if that is the case.
Maybe because no other team would want him to play the 1? With this 25% TOV rate in the playoffs and all...
I wouldn't assume that no other team would want him to play the 1.
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Exum is a 3, he has to have grown since the combine.
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stitches wrote:Inigo Montoya wrote:Jazz having the "best, most competitive workout" (with Musa), then Locke suddenly slots Musa as the Jazz's pick...
...and Perrin raving about Musa here:
and saying they took him out to dinner before the workout...
I am going to assume if he’s available he’s being picked.
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Inigo Montoya wrote:stitches wrote:Inigo Montoya wrote:Can't imagine why he'd want to stay if that is the case.
Maybe because no other team would want him to play the 1? With this 25% TOV rate in the playoffs and all...
I wouldn't assume that no other team would want him to play the 1.
How many teams need a 1 that have cap.
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The funny thing about Exum being a PG is that being the PG of the Jazz may require less PG skills than any other team in the league. We don’t use a dominant ball handler and the only thing the PG does that is different is dribble past half court. And that isn’t always true either. It really doesn’t matter because of how fluid our system and the league is as a whole.
Dribbling past half court just happens to be something Exum is very poor at. He could barely get the ball up the court against Raymond Felton. And when I mean barely, I mean it was like a 50/50 shot when he pressed.
If he can develop enough handle to safely dribble the ball against all players, not just fat and old players, he can play and call himself whatever he wants. It doesn’t really matter once the ball crosses half court.
Dribbling past half court just happens to be something Exum is very poor at. He could barely get the ball up the court against Raymond Felton. And when I mean barely, I mean it was like a 50/50 shot when he pressed.
If he can develop enough handle to safely dribble the ball against all players, not just fat and old players, he can play and call himself whatever he wants. It doesn’t really matter once the ball crosses half court.
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Just getting around to watching the video and man...those two other guys are just bumbling idiots.
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KqWIN wrote:Just getting around to watching the video and man...those two other guys are just bumbling idiots.
Anything jump at you that I missed?
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The definitive #LockeWatch rankings as of Monday.
1. Kevin Huerter!!!
2. Dzanan Musa
3. Grayson Allen
4. Melvin Turner
5. Mo Wagner
1. Kevin Huerter!!!
2. Dzanan Musa
3. Grayson Allen
4. Melvin Turner
5. Mo Wagner
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KqWIN wrote:The definitive #LockeWatch rankings as of Monday.
1. Kevin Huerter!!!
2. Dzanan Musa
3. Grayson Allen
4. Melvin Turner
5. Mo Wagner
Remember how much Locke loved RJ Hunter. I think all the people(Locke, you, me) who loved RJ Hunter love Huerter too.
He compared him to college Hayward. I disagree a ton with this one. Hayward had a nifty herky-jerky skill game... Huerter is not unskilled per se, but IMO nowhere close to as functional as Hayward was at the time. IMO Kennard is the closest we've seen to Hayward coming out of college(smaller of course but similar in the way he plays and gets his shots off).
Just listened to his podcast. My #LockeWatch list would be:
1. Dzenan Musa
2. Grayson Allen
3. Kevin Huerter
4. Melvin TURNER
5. Mo Wagner
I don't trust him to give us the list the exact way we will draft them so I got the same list and just reordered it by how it feels to me he likes them best.
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Whoa wasnt everyone telling me musa is falling . If the jazz are locked in on musa and okobo im pretty happy.
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stitches wrote:KqWIN wrote:The definitive #LockeWatch rankings as of Monday.
1. Kevin Huerter!!!
2. Dzanan Musa
3. Grayson Allen
4. Melvin Turner
5. Mo Wagner
Remember how much Locke loved RJ Hunter. I think all the people(Locke, you, me) who loved RJ Hunter love Huerter too.
He compared him to college Hayward. I disagree a ton with this one. Hayward had a nifty herky-jerky skill game... Huerter is not unskilled per se, but IMO nowhere close to as functional as Hayward was at the time. IMO Kennard is the closest we've seen to Hayward coming out of college(smaller of course but similar in the way he plays and gets his shots off).
Just listened to his podcast. My #LockeWatch list would be:
1. Dzenan Musa
2. Grayson Allen
3. Kevin Huerter
4. Melvin TURNER
5. Mo Wagner
I will say that in terms of who he “loves”, I might put Allen and Wagner as 1 and 2 for #LockeWatch in some order. Those are the two who he likes then most relative to the consensus and seems to gloss over their weaknesses while falling in love with their strengths.
As far as the Hayward comparison I both agree and disagree. Hayward was the better run and jump athlete, and Huerter is the more natural shooter...but I think the big differences are may be due to how they were used rather than ability or skill.
I think Huerter does posses a crafty in between game, he just didn’t use it very much. I saw a couple pivot moves from Huerter and thought the same thing as Locke...that’s a Hayward move. The difference is that those moves are just flashes...whereas for Kennard or Hayward it defined the player he was.
So while I definitely wouldn’t say they were similar in college, I can see Huerter developing and making those moves a staple of his game. Especially if he changes his body like Hayward, which I think he can because he has a good frame. He’s shown the flashes.
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Jazz normally get excited about youth, upside and NBA body, so you'd expect the list to include:
Okogie
Okobo
Brown
maybe Huerter
That said, for a team that needs scoring, it's hard to pass on smooth scorers like Musa and Robinson.
Okogie
Okobo
Brown
maybe Huerter
That said, for a team that needs scoring, it's hard to pass on smooth scorers like Musa and Robinson.
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