2018 Utah Jazz Summer League

DonHumble · Post #41 » by **DonHumble** » Tue Jul 3, 2018 2:22 am

Tony Bradly looks so much better, so lean and some muscle being added. Loving him rolling to the basket...

KqWIN · Post #42 » by **KqWIN** » Tue Jul 3, 2018 2:23 am

I think Grayson is doing alright despite the poor shooting. He's having the hard time reading the game and making the right decision on when to shoot or pass. There were a few times he had great looks, but was looking to pass instead and vice versa.

DonHumble · Post #43 » by **DonHumble** » Tue Jul 3, 2018 2:27 am

KqWIN wrote:I think Grayson is doing alright despite the poor shooting. He's having the hard time reading the game and making the right decision on when to shoot or pass. There were a few times he had great looks, but was looking to pass instead and vice versa.

For sure, he is certainly looking for his teammates. Shooting a bit off, but with the way we move the ball... I can see him fitting in 8-)

babyjax13 · Post #44 » by **babyjax13** » Tue Jul 3, 2018 2:47 am

If Allen is a point guard I like him a lot more.

Crunch 99 · Post #45 » by **Crunch 99** » Tue Jul 3, 2018 1:58 pm

DonHumble wrote:For sure, he is certainly looking for his teammates. Shooting a bit off, but with the way we move the ball... I can see him fitting in

Allen performed his best impression of a Ricky Rubio stat line: 8 rebs, 7 assists and 11 points on 4 for 16 shooting! JK. :lol:

I am one of Rubio's fans expecting ongoing shooting improvement from Rubio this season. Go Jazz!

Winglish · Post #46 » by **Winglish** » Tue Jul 3, 2018 4:09 pm

One thing we can definitely say about Grayson Allen is that he is scrappy and chippy even in summer league play. LOL

It's readily apparent that he has excellent floor vision and a feel for the game

The shots were not falling so I guess we'll see how that goes. His shooting form is beautiful so nothing to worry about there.

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stitches · Post #47 » by **stitches** » Tue Jul 3, 2018 5:09 pm

I'm on the record for a long time that I prefer our rookies to make mistakes due to overaggression than due to timidity. Early mistakes help players find their limits in the league and illuminate weaknesses that need to be worked on. I prefer Allen to make those mistakes than be passive and for us to not know what he can and cannot do.

stitches · Post #48 » by **stitches** » Tue Jul 3, 2018 6:36 pm

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KqWIN · Post #49 » by **KqWIN** » Tue Jul 3, 2018 6:42 pm

Why does he need rest after playing 20 minutes? Sheesh. He can’t be THAT out of shape.

stitches · Post #50 » by **stitches** » Tue Jul 3, 2018 6:43 pm

KqWIN wrote:Why does he need rest after playing 20 minutes? Sheesh. He can’t be THAT out of shape.

16. He admitted he's not in the best shape in the press-conference I think ...

KqWIN · Post #51 » by **KqWIN** » Tue Jul 3, 2018 6:49 pm

stitches wrote:
KqWIN wrote:Why does he need rest after playing 20 minutes? Sheesh. He can’t be THAT out of shape.

16. He admitted he's not in the best shape in the press-conference I think ...

Yeah he was getting subbed out early and often. He didn’t play a ton of minutes.

Honestly, this is a bad look. How can he this out of of shape? And if he’s out of shape, why is he not running and playing basketball? If sitting down and watching basketball got you in shape, I’d be an Olympic Marathon runner.

KqWIN · Post #52 » by **KqWIN** » Tue Jul 3, 2018 6:53 pm

I was just about to comment on how he needs a ton of reps to improve his decision making...Guess not.

erudite23 · Post #53 » by **erudite23** » Tue Jul 3, 2018 7:10 pm

stitches wrote:I'm on the record for a long time that I prefer our rookies to make mistakes due to overaggression than due to timidity. Early mistakes help players find their limits in the league and illuminate weaknesses that need to be worked on. I prefer Allen to make those mistakes than be passive and for us to not know what he can and cannot do.

I agree with this. Still, it's never good to see your rook shoot 25% from the field.

I like Grayson but this could mean he is only ready for off ball action in the near future.

Stern Fixer · Post #54 » by **Stern Fixer** » Tue Jul 3, 2018 8:26 pm

erudite23 wrote:
stitches wrote:I'm on the record for a long time that I prefer our rookies to make mistakes due to overaggression than due to timidity. Early mistakes help players find their limits in the league and illuminate weaknesses that need to be worked on. I prefer Allen to make those mistakes than be passive and for us to not know what he can and cannot do.

I agree with this. Still, it's never good to see your rook shoot 25% from the field.

I like Grayson but this could mean he is only ready for off ball action in the near future.

How so? He had seven assists and eight boards with only two TOVs (could've been better there) in only 16 minutes first time out with all eyes on him. He did a lot of good things out there, basically just missed some shots, but he continued to play his game. Better outing than Trae Young.

Thought Bradley looked great, ready to get some minutes next season.

dr0welf · Post #55 » by **dr0welf** » Tue Jul 3, 2018 9:54 pm

Stern Fixer wrote:
erudite23 wrote:
stitches wrote:I'm on the record for a long time that I prefer our rookies to make mistakes due to overaggression than due to timidity. Early mistakes help players find their limits in the league and illuminate weaknesses that need to be worked on. I prefer Allen to make those mistakes than be passive and for us to not know what he can and cannot do.

I agree with this. Still, it's never good to see your rook shoot 25% from the field.

I like Grayson but this could mean he is only ready for off ball action in the near future.

How so? He had seven assists and eight boards with only two TOVs (could've been better there) in only 16 minutes first time out with all eyes on him. He did a lot of good things out there, basically just missed some shots, but he continued to play his game. Better outing than Trae Young.

Thought Bradley looked great, ready to get some minutes next season.

he posted almost Simmons like numbers and we know how that worked for Simmons....

dr0welf · Post #56 » by **dr0welf** » Tue Jul 3, 2018 9:58 pm

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Stern Fixer · Post #57 » by **Stern Fixer** » Tue Jul 3, 2018 10:09 pm

dr0welf wrote:

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Thanks for the heads-up, looks like Netflix for me tonight then. OK, I'll give it a couple of minutes for Bradley, Niang and Ray. We actually have a very good roster, hope we can keep it for Vegas. :rock:

erudite23 · Post #58 » by **erudite23** » Tue Jul 3, 2018 11:58 pm

Stern Fixer wrote:
erudite23 wrote:
stitches wrote:I'm on the record for a long time that I prefer our rookies to make mistakes due to overaggression than due to timidity. Early mistakes help players find their limits in the league and illuminate weaknesses that need to be worked on. I prefer Allen to make those mistakes than be passive and for us to not know what he can and cannot do.

I agree with this. Still, it's never good to see your rook shoot 25% from the field.

I like Grayson but this could mean he is only ready for off ball action in the near future.

How so? He had seven assists and eight boards with only two TOVs (could've been better there) in only 16 minutes first time out with all eyes on him. He did a lot of good things out there, basically just missed some shots, but he continued to play his game. Better outing than Trae Young.

Thought Bradley looked great, ready to get some minutes next season.

He seems to have facilitated well, but unless you're a world class passer and handler (he's not) then you have to be a threat to score or they will lay off you and choke your passing lanes. He's gotta be able to get to the hoop and finish and/or be a threat to pull up from deep and 2/10 from inside the arc won't cut it.

Again, its the first game so we'll learn more. Could just be one bad outing.

KqWIN · Post #59 » by **KqWIN** » Wed Jul 4, 2018 2:04 am

Release Bradley. Sign Niang.

Rauxcee · Post #60 » by **Rauxcee** » Wed Jul 4, 2018 2:13 am

Bradley won't be in the league after his rookie contract I think...