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Re: Utroll Jazz Bandwagoners. Ex-TimberTrolls, now ¡RICARD RUBIO I VIVES: MVP OF THE WORLD! 

Post#41 » by El Hespiritu » Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:11 am

KqWIN wrote:
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Phoenix is a mess, I'm not sure what to expect.

What does this mean? They were a mess, don't you think they fixed this with the moves they've made this past year?


They are still a mess a ownership level, that won't change until Sarver sells the team. Ricky's most important task will be changing the culture. That's been the biggest issue with them over the years. Ricky has terrific character...but I'm not sure it's in his hands. The Suns have brought in strong vets before and nothing has changed. Ricky did his thing in MIN, but that never amounted to much success either.

It just depends on what you're counting as success. If winning 35 games is a big deal for them...I think that's something they can do. But given their history, they might just take a little bit longer to start tanking like they have for awhile. Once they're out, the only thing that seems to be on their minds are putting up stats in garbage time and starting fake fights.

35 win??!!

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Re: Utroll Jazz Official Bandwagoners Fan Club (Spanish) 

Post#42 » by In2ition » Wed Sep 18, 2019 4:52 pm

KqWIN wrote:
In2ition wrote:
dr0welf wrote:
Phoenix is a mess, I'm not sure what to expect.

What does this mean? They were a mess, don't you think they fixed this with the moves they've made this past year?


They are still a mess a ownership level, that won't change until Sarver sells the team. Ricky's most important task will be changing the culture. That's been the biggest issue with them over the years. Ricky has terrific character...but I'm not sure it's in his hands. The Suns have brought in strong vets before and nothing has changed. Ricky did his thing in MIN, but that never amounted to much success either.

It just depends on what you're counting as success. If winning 35 games is a big deal for them...I think that's something they can do. But given their history, they might just take a little bit longer to start tanking like they have for awhile. Once they're out, the only thing that seems to be on their minds are putting up stats in garbage time and starting fake fights.

Obviously ownership is going to change any time soon. I think Sarver has backed off a bit and started putting the right people in place. James Jones was a respected player around the league, and a good and smart guy. They got people with experience to help him, and not many coaches are as respected as a person than Monty Williams, who will set the tone at the start of training camp and already has. Monty has filled his staff with guys that are also respected. Then they added a bunch of smart and good character vets to fill the holes in the roster. I'm sure that Ricky is going to have a much easier time with the culture than it looked like based on last year's roster.
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Re: Utroll Jazz Official Bandwagoners Fan Club (Spanish) 

Post#43 » by KqWIN » Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:08 pm

In2ition wrote:
KqWIN wrote:
In2ition wrote:What does this mean? They were a mess, don't you think they fixed this with the moves they've made this past year?


They are still a mess a ownership level, that won't change until Sarver sells the team. Ricky's most important task will be changing the culture. That's been the biggest issue with them over the years. Ricky has terrific character...but I'm not sure it's in his hands. The Suns have brought in strong vets before and nothing has changed. Ricky did his thing in MIN, but that never amounted to much success either.

It just depends on what you're counting as success. If winning 35 games is a big deal for them...I think that's something they can do. But given their history, they might just take a little bit longer to start tanking like they have for awhile. Once they're out, the only thing that seems to be on their minds are putting up stats in garbage time and starting fake fights.

Obviously ownership is going to change any time soon. I think Sarver has backed off a bit and started putting the right people in place. James Jones was a respected player around the league, and a good and smart guy. They got people with experience to help him, and not many coaches are as respected as a person than Monty Williams, who will set the tone at the start of training camp and already has. Monty has filled his staff with guys that are also respected. Then they added a bunch of smart and good character vets to fill the holes in the roster. I'm sure that Ricky is going to have a much easier time with the culture than it looked like based on last year's roster.


We'll see. The Suns have had very respected and strong character guys coaching and playing for them recently, but they weren't able to turn around the culture. Again, I think it's all about the expectations and definition of success. I could totally see them being this year's version of the Kings. The Kings were a laughing stock, but they turned around the culture and with 38 wins that was enough to have really good vibes around that franchise. Let's see how long that lasts...but it's what I think the Suns are targeting. In order for that to happen, the Suns really going to have to elevate the way they play defense as a team. Rubio, Baynes, and Bridges are all good defenders...but the other guys are going to have to elevate their game
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Re: Utroll Jazz Bandwagoners. Ex-TimberTrolls, now ¡RICARD RUBIO I VIVES: MVP OF THE WORLD! 

Post#44 » by El Hespiritu » Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:28 am

From 35 to 38 in just two posts?

If we manage to fullfill one page I foresee BlackTroll Suns making POs.
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Re: Utroll Jazz Bandwagoners. Ex-TimberTrolls, now Late Pre-Season Is When BlackTroll Suns are Best NBA Defense. 

Post#45 » by El Hespiritu » Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:16 pm

Well...

Late Pre Season.

I'm not worried so far. Sooner or later Mike will hit them and we'll forget about this early %s.
Defense is being more or less functional and Spida looks good. Jeff Green showing his bright side so far (he has a dark one... he's a moon-player). Mudiay is doing fine about scoring... not that much in another aspects.

Team looks a bit messy but that's expectable. Half the roster never played together and there are yet some twists to be made in the rotation... maybe even in the starting lineup (I'm not entirely buying that 6th Man Ingles).

Next, against the Are-they-actually-playing-defense-or-it's-just-for-the-sake-of-lol? BlackTroll Suns, with The Golden Boy probably cleared to play.
He has some history of doing pretty well vs. ex-teams.

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Re: Utroll Jazz Bandwagoners. Ex-TimberTrolls, now Late Pre-Season Is When BlackTroll Suns are Best NBA Defense. 

Post#46 » by Rauxcee » Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:55 pm

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:lol: :lol:

Calling it now: whichever one shoots better, that team wins.

Hope Ricky can play and the fans give him a good cheer.
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Re: Utroll Jazz Bandwagoners. Ex-TimberTrolls, now Nòmades Black Troll Suns. The Return of The SunKings. 

Post#47 » by El Hespiritu » Thu Jun 4, 2020 7:14 pm

He doesn't forget you.
Neither do I.

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I'm not sure if this Coroned Season is a better or worse chance to you (ex-bandwagoning us) win the ring.
But whatever happens, I won't put any asterisk on it.



Addendo: Troll Award to The Most Bizarre Image Ever Recorded In A Protest goes to:

The Legolas From SLC.

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-What if they don't listen?
-I kill them and throw their bodies into the sea

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