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Indiana is reportedly open to trading Myles Turner. Clarkson for Turner works salarywise, but we'd obviously have to add more value. Not sure if we could pull that off, but I have to think the Jazz would want Turner.
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I'd stay away from Myles Turner. I think he's one of the most overrated players in the league, although people are starting to figure out he's not been good at all this year.
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No way do the Pacers trade Turner for Clarkson. It will also defeat the purpose of trading for Clarkson in the first place because our bench will once again will struggle to score.
If we want a backup big with actual size, who plays inside and has some defensive presence, can block shots and provide rim protection and who also doesn't cost much and we can realistically get, then here is an interesting name: Jeff Withey.
If we want a backup big with actual size, who plays inside and has some defensive presence, can block shots and provide rim protection and who also doesn't cost much and we can realistically get, then here is an interesting name: Jeff Withey.
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The real decision the Jazz FO is making is between Continuity, Cap Flexibility, and Cash Considerations.
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The thing about Clarkson is that we need him in the sense that he's a decent player, but we don't need the type of player he is, especially with Mike Conley. It makes more sense to hold onto Clarkson and move on from Conley, there are some 4/5's available that meet our needs much better, but that won't happen until the summer and likely not at all.
In the meantime, I think we should just cut Goss and sign Udoh or Bogut once their seasons end.
In the meantime, I think we should just cut Goss and sign Udoh or Bogut once their seasons end.
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Both Aron Baynes and Jakob Poeltl are rumored to in trade discussions per Zach Lowe. Both are in our price range.
Poeltl will be an RFA this summer, but probably worth going into the $10M/year range.
Poeltl will be an RFA this summer, but probably worth going into the $10M/year range.
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KqWIN wrote:The thing about Clarkson is that we need him in the sense that he's a decent player, but we don't need the type of player he is, especially with Mike Conley. It makes more sense to hold onto Clarkson and move on from Conley, there are some 4/5's available that meet our needs much better, but that won't happen until the summer and likely not at all.
In the meantime, I think we should just cut Goss and sign Udoh or Bogut once their seasons end.
I think it's a real long-shot that the Jazz would move Conley. They'd have to get an offer they can't refuse. I think the FO believes in him.
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Catchall wrote:I think it's a real long-shot that the Jazz would move Conley. They'd have to get an offer they can't refuse. I think the FO believes in him.
Given how Conley performed thus far, an offer from another team that the Jazz shouldn't be able to refuse is: "we'll take him."
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Rather than looking at a trade we need to be on the phone with Udoh's agent selling him on being the primary backup center as soon as his Chinese season is over.
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Catchall wrote:KqWIN wrote:The thing about Clarkson is that we need him in the sense that he's a decent player, but we don't need the type of player he is, especially with Mike Conley. It makes more sense to hold onto Clarkson and move on from Conley, there are some 4/5's available that meet our needs much better, but that won't happen until the summer and likely not at all.
In the meantime, I think we should just cut Goss and sign Udoh or Bogut once their seasons end.
I think it's a real long-shot that the Jazz would move Conley. They'd have to get an offer they can't refuse. I think the FO believes in him.
It's definitely not realistic this year...but what happens if (when) things end in disappointment? Conley would have value as an expiring contract, and if the Jazz are actually willing to pay tax, trading Conley for a longer term deal like Horford, Griffin, or Love is a better team building move.
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It sounds like the Pacers are looking to trade TJ Leaf, and not seeking much in return (whatever that means).
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SoCalJazzFan wrote:It sounds like the Pacers are looking to trade TJ Leaf, and not seeking much in return (whatever that means).
I think it means that Leaf kind of sucks. Not sure he's an NBA player in this era.
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Horford? NO THANKS. Our front court is perfect, Bojan can play PF just find in today's league, and I don't want to be anywhere near Horford's contract. I rather just deal with one more year of Conley.KqWIN wrote:Catchall wrote:KqWIN wrote:The thing about Clarkson is that we need him in the sense that he's a decent player, but we don't need the type of player he is, especially with Mike Conley. It makes more sense to hold onto Clarkson and move on from Conley, there are some 4/5's available that meet our needs much better, but that won't happen until the summer and likely not at all.
In the meantime, I think we should just cut Goss and sign Udoh or Bogut once their seasons end.
I think it's a real long-shot that the Jazz would move Conley. They'd have to get an offer they can't refuse. I think the FO believes in him.
It's definitely not realistic this year...but what happens if (when) things end in disappointment? Conley would have value as an expiring contract, and if the Jazz are actually willing to pay tax, trading Conley for a longer term deal like Horford, Griffin, or Love is a better team building move.
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How old are you, just curious.
by gomeziee on 21 Jul 2013 00:53
im 20, and i did grow up watching MJ play in the 90's.
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Turner makes 18M a year, would be way too much for a bench player, and this aint no Manu.Catchall wrote:Indiana is reportedly open to trading Myles Turner. Clarkson for Turner works salarywise, but we'd obviously have to add more value. Not sure if we could pull that off, but I have to think the Jazz would want Turner.
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How old are you, just curious.
by gomeziee on 21 Jul 2013 00:53
im 20, and i did grow up watching MJ play in the 90's.
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dautjazz wrote:Turner makes 18M a year, would be way too much for a bench player, and this aint no Manu.Catchall wrote:Indiana is reportedly open to trading Myles Turner. Clarkson for Turner works salarywise, but we'd obviously have to add more value. Not sure if we could pull that off, but I have to think the Jazz would want Turner.
You'd have to believe in starting him next to Gobert at the 4 and moving Bogey to the 3. It's a moot point though, since it doesn't look like Indiana wants to move him.
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Here are a bunch:
Utah trades: Ed Davis, [2nd(s)]
Utah receives: [insert player]
Utah receives a power forward.
Houston trades: Tyson Chandler, one of Thabo/Austin Rivers
Houston receives: Ed Davis
Houston gets a viable center that can do exactly what he's good at in their system - rebound.
3rd team trades: [insert player]
3rd team receives: Tyson Chandler, one of Thabo/Austin Rivers, [2nd(s)]
3rd team gets out of a year of salary, and gets a 2nd or 2 (depending on the player they send).
3rd team
Detroit trades: Markeiff Morris
Oklahoma City trades: Mike Muscala
Philadelphia 76ers trade: Mike Scott
Phoenix trades: Frank Kaminsky*
*injured
Utah trades: Ed Davis, [2nd(s)]
Utah receives: [insert player]
Utah receives a power forward.
Houston trades: Tyson Chandler, one of Thabo/Austin Rivers
Houston receives: Ed Davis
Houston gets a viable center that can do exactly what he's good at in their system - rebound.
3rd team trades: [insert player]
3rd team receives: Tyson Chandler, one of Thabo/Austin Rivers, [2nd(s)]
3rd team gets out of a year of salary, and gets a 2nd or 2 (depending on the player they send).
3rd team
Detroit trades: Markeiff Morris
Oklahoma City trades: Mike Muscala
Philadelphia 76ers trade: Mike Scott
Phoenix trades: Frank Kaminsky*
*injured
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Nigel Williams Goss + 2nd(s) also works for any of Muscala/Scott/Kaminsky/Morris. TBH I kind of expect us to try dumping Davis with 2nds, cut whatever player we get, and move Goss + 2nd for Muscala.
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Our counter for the Rockets trade should be to go get Jahlil Okafor. Let him punish whoever he gets on the low block.
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CAE15 wrote:Our counter for the Rockets trade should be to go get Jahlil Okafor. Let him punish whoever he gets on the low block.
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Would be hilarious to watch.
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If Detroit moves Rose, Mudiay for Christian Wood would make a lot of sense, too.
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Can see us making one potential move in going after a bigger wing with that wing being Glen Robinson III, probably cost a second and NWG.
Probably search for a C on the buyout market.
Probably search for a C on the buyout market.