Conley's next contract

GobertReport · Post #1 » by **GobertReport** » Tue May 25, 2021 9:22 pm

Good of time as any to discuss.

Ill go with 60 Mill for 3 years.

You can vote for 2 options.

red4hf · Post #2 » by **red4hf** » Tue May 25, 2021 10:22 pm

Great question, and I think you nailed it as well....... 3 years and $60 mil......

zero24gravity · Post #3 » by **zero24gravity** » Tue May 25, 2021 10:25 pm

Where are the 2 year options? lol

Mike has been great. I hope he plays a couple more productive seasons for the Jazz. I think he'll also provide the Jazz with a nice discount, based on comments he's made about his future.

Still, it's hard to wrap up big money on an oft-injured 34 year old guard (34 when next season starts). Injury history aside, quickness & ability to defend will disappear out of nowhere, and then what? $20m backup for Mitchell? I'd hope for 2 years, with the first year being as heavy as the team can absorb, easing in year 2. At least make the 3rd year be team option, if it needs to be 3 years.

Side note: Niang's contract has me wondering as much as Conley's. I have no idea what is market value is. I think the Jazz system makes him look much better than he is, but his shooting is a premium skill in today's NBA.

GobertReport · Post #4 » by **GobertReport** » Tue May 25, 2021 10:37 pm

zero24gravity wrote:Where are the 2 year options? lol

Mike has been great. I hope he plays a couple more productive seasons for the Jazz. I think he'll also provide the Jazz with a nice discount, based on comments he's made about his future.

Still, it's hard to wrap up big money on an oft-injured 34 year old guard (34 when next season starts). Injury history aside, quickness & ability to defend will disappear out of nowhere, and then what? $20m backup for Mitchell? I'd hope for 2 years, with the first year being as heavy as the team can absorb, easing in year 2. At least make the 3rd year be team option, if it needs to be 3 years.

Side note: Niang's contract has me wondering as much as Conley's. I have no idea what is market value is. I think the Jazz system makes him look much better than he is, but his shooting is a premium skill in today's NBA.

I could see a 3 year with a TO after year 2. Declining contract as well.

I am starting to like Niang but if Otto Porter is available for the same money, I am taking Otto.

babyjax13 · Post #5 » by **babyjax13** » Tue May 25, 2021 11:12 pm

I agree, 60/3, maybe with a partial guarantee on the last year. He is a very good player, I expect a similar level of play the next two seasons, at worst.

GobertReport · Post #6 » by **GobertReport** » Wed May 26, 2021 1:05 am

babyjax13 wrote:I agree, 60/3, maybe with a partial guarantee on the last year. He is a very good player, I expect a similar level of play the next two seasons, at worst.

I was thinking the same thing. 5 million guarantee for the last year.

dautjazz · Post #7 » by **dautjazz** » Thu Jun 3, 2021 8:01 pm

I voted 3/75. I would love to retain him 3/60 as well, but I could Conley pushing for more since he got his All-Star selection and has been terrific of late.

Catchall · Post #8 » by **Catchall** » Thu Jun 3, 2021 11:23 pm

Lets see if the hamstring holds up. I'd more likely do 2 years / $36MM.

He looks like an All Star because Donovan and Rudy take the lionshare of the defense's attention.

Crunch 99 · Post #9 » by **Crunch 99** » Fri Jun 4, 2021 2:16 pm

Catchall wrote:Lets see if the hamstring holds up.

Yes, it is kind of pointless imo to speculate what to pay him on his next contract now. I love what Conley brings to the table when he is healthy, but let's see what we get from Conley for the remainder of the playoffs. I am crossing my fingers that he is ready to go for the next round and we get Conley back at full strength.

Catchall wrote:He looks like an All Star because Donovan and Rudy take the lionshare of the defense's attention.

Eh, I think that is a bit unfair. No doubt those guys, especially Mitchell, command a huge amount of attention from the defense, but Conley has been quite effective leading the team when Mitchell isn't on the floor as well. Conley led both the team and the entire NBA in regular season plus/minus per game at 10.7 vs. Mitchell's 5.4, because Conley has been very effective directing the team without Mitchell in the lineup. He has also been great in crunch time. I am not claiming that Conley is as good as emerging superstar Mitchell, but I think Conley was a worthy All Star callup earlier this season.

MTJazzv3 · Post #10 » by **MTJazzv3** » Fri Jun 4, 2021 4:50 pm

Crunch 99 wrote:
Catchall wrote:Lets see if the hamstring holds up.

Yes, it is kind of pointless imo to speculate what to pay him on his next contract now. I love what Conley brings to the table when he is healthy, but let's see what Conley we get for the remainder of the playoffs. I am crossing my fingers that he is ready to go for the next round and we get Conley back at full strength.

Catchall wrote:He looks like an All Star because Donovan and Rudy take the lionshare of the defense's attention.

Eh, I think that is a bit unfair. No doubt those guys, especially Mitchell, command a huge amount of attention from the defense, but Conley has been quite effective leading the team when Mitchell isn't on the floor as well. Conley led both the team and the entire NBA in regular season plus/minus per game at 10.7 vs. Mitchell's 5.4, because Conley has been very effective directing the team without Mitchell in the lineup. He has also been great in crunch time. I am not arguing that Conley is greater than emerging superstar Mitchell, but I think Conley was a worthy All Star callup earlier this season.

I agree, lets see if his hamstring gets through the playoffs. Love the guy but at this point the hammy is a chronic issue with him that will not magically go away as he gets older. If he does re-sign the Jazz better get an upgrade over Forrest as an insurance policy.