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sip wrote:

GobertReport wrote:

babyjax13 wrote:Dok has been convincing in summer league, at least. He looks like he can get in a bit better shape, too, which is scary considering how athletic he is. Kinda feeling like there is a chance DL made the right decision in the draft ... but ... yah ... I'll hold off on pronouncing that until he sees minutes on the team.

I see young Shaq. Crazy if we get Shaq 2.0 with pick 30.

No you don't see a young Shaq. Not even remotely close. At best you see Deandre Jordan.

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GobertReport wrote:

sip wrote:

GobertReport wrote:
I see young Shaq. Crazy if we get Shaq 2.0 with pick 30.

No you don't see a young Shaq. Not even remotely close. At best you see Deandre Jordan.

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DAJ has no offensive skill set. Dok does, if he was entering the draft 20 years ago he would have been a top 5 pick.

sip wrote:

GobertReport wrote:

sip wrote:No you don't see a young Shaq. Not even remotely close. At best you see Deandre Jordan.

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DAJ has no offensive skill set. Dok does, if he was entering the draft 20 years ago he would have been a top 5 pick.

He does not have an offensive skillset. The only thing the guy does is dunk the ball. You really need to go back and watch video of Shaq as a rookie if you think he and Dok are even remotely comparable.

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Charlie_S wrote:Last season Forrest had some very promising stretches and he honestly looked more ready than Oni, but for a guard it's very hard to succeed in the NBA as a non-shooter. I like him a lot and I hope he develops a respectable shot but it's not going to be easy, otherwise Rubio would have been a multiple-time all star!

sip wrote:

Charlie_S wrote:Last season Forrest had some very promising stretches and he honestly looked more ready than Oni, but for a guard it's very hard to succeed in the NBA as a non-shooter. I like him a lot and I hope he develops a respectable shot but it's not going to be easy, otherwise Rubio would have been a multiple-time all star!

The player that Forrest is starting to remind me of is Delon Wright when he came into the league. It would be awesome if there was a similar growth trajectory.

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nolang1 wrote:

sip wrote:

Charlie_S wrote:Last season Forrest had some very promising stretches and he honestly looked more ready than Oni, but for a guard it's very hard to succeed in the NBA as a non-shooter. I like him a lot and I hope he develops a respectable shot but it's not going to be easy, otherwise Rubio would have been a multiple-time all star!

The player that Forrest is starting to remind me of is Delon Wright when he came into the league. It would be awesome if there was a similar growth trajectory.

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Alex Caruso if you dare to compare players of different ethnicities. Forrest played his rookie season a year and change younger than both Wright and Caruso so I think there’s even a higher ceiling than “solid rotation guard” out there for him as his shooting continues to improve.

Trent Forrest trying to shoot up the Utah Jazz’s depth chart
https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2021/08/15/trent-forrest-trying/

Snips: Butler was presumed to be an upgrade over two-way signee Trent Forrest — and may well turn out to be — but the improvement that the second-year Florida State product has displayed in summer league play these past few weeks could make the hierarchy far less cut-and-dried.

He’s been confidently setting up Utah’s offense and directing traffic — a pass to open 3-point shooter here, setting up big man Udoka Azubuike for a lob there (and there … and there again), and in between, deftly probing into the paint, getting younger defenders guessing one way, then slicing through the hole for a layup at the rim.

It can be stipulated that of course he’s been doing it against lesser competition than what he faced as a regular-season fill-in this past season. But then, such dismissiveness belittles the apparent growth in both skill and confidence he is putting on display.

The 3-point elephant in the room

There is, of course, a very simple explanation for why Forrest went undrafted a year ago despite a stellar career for the Seminoles. A clear reason why he was on a two-way contract as an NBA rookie, and will be again as a professional sophomore (the Jazz signed him to another two-way deal this past Wednesday). A straightforward rationale for why Butler was drafted to supplant him.

“Obviously, his 3-point shot is the one part of his game that he needs to work on,” said Bryan Bailey, a Jazz assistant who’s overseen the team’s summer league squads. “And he knows that.”

“The main focus for me [this offseason] has been my shooting; I’ve been working on that, and I feel like it’s gotten a lot better from the season until now,” Forrest said. “That’s still going to be a focus even after summer league. It’s been working, the things that we’ve been doing.”

And he remains keenly aware that he’s still got so much work ahead of him — especially when trying to prevent newer players from being seen as better options for minutes than him.

babyjax13 wrote:I think Forrest is going to be a rotation player in this league, probably in the mold of MCW, Caruso, etc.

sip wrote:

babyjax13 wrote:I think Forrest is going to be a rotation player in this league, probably in the mold of MCW, Caruso, etc.

He definitely has the potential to be. It always amazes me that some of these guys are never able to develop a reliable 3pt shot. Playing basketball is your damn job so there is no excuse not to get up at least 1000 3pt shots a day in the offseason and after 3 months straight of that you should be a damn good 3pt shooter. Even if your shooting stroke isn't very good you should at least develop a nice touch after getting that many shots up.

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Well deserved. One of the highlights of this SL roster.