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Post#22 » by Daddy 801 » Tue Aug 3, 2021 7:14 pm

Decent signing.

Still need to sign a young 6’7” or taller young player with lots of athleticism who is a good defender.
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Post#23 » by GobertReport » Tue Aug 3, 2021 7:40 pm

Daddy 801 wrote:Decent signing.

Still need to sign a young 6’7” or taller young player with lots of athleticism who is a good defender.


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Post#24 » by sip » Tue Aug 3, 2021 7:49 pm

I guess I am the only one that doesn't like this signing. Yes he is an upgrade over Favors but he doesn't move well anymore and is a bad defender. If we wanted a stretch 4 that doesn't play defense then we could have gotten Jabari Parker for the minimum. I have a feeling next offseason he exercises his player option and it turns into a bad contract that we are forced to give up an asset to dump. I think you probably could have gotten the exact same production out of Ilyasova if you force feed him the same amount of minutes Gay received last year.
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Post#25 » by sip » Tue Aug 3, 2021 7:55 pm

Too bad Quin burned the bridge with Jeff Green because I would much rather have him over Gay.
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Post#26 » by zero24gravity » Tue Aug 3, 2021 8:34 pm

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Daddy 801 wrote:Decent signing.

Still need to sign a young 6’7” or taller young player with lots of athleticism who is a good defender.


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I keep thinking this ....but I think it's nearly time to jump off the (mini)train. On the depth chart, he was behind everyone who suited up for the Jazz the last 2 years. Looking forward to Jazz summer league this year for him alone, in hopes something manifests. I remember him doing a great job on DeRozan and even Gay in the bubble ... thought it was his breakout ... then... nothing.
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Post#27 » by zero24gravity » Tue Aug 3, 2021 8:36 pm

sip wrote:I guess I am the only one that doesn't like this signing. Yes he is an upgrade over Favors but he doesn't move well anymore and is a bad defender. If we wanted a stretch 4 that doesn't play defense then we could have gotten Jabari Parker for the minimum. I have a feeling next offseason he exercises his player option and it turns into a bad contract that we are forced to give up an asset to dump. I think you probably could have gotten the exact same production out of Ilyasova if you force feed him the same amount of minutes Gay received last year.



Anytime I see Parker as an option, I automatically disagree.

Soooo ...no. :lol:

Gay is still far more defensively competent than Jabari, and isn't a total ball-stopper.

I do think the Jazz under-played Ily, though.
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Post#28 » by GobertReport » Tue Aug 3, 2021 8:38 pm

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Daddy 801 wrote:Decent signing.

Still need to sign a young 6’7” or taller young player with lots of athleticism who is a good defender.


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I keep thinking this ....but I think it's nearly time to jump off the (mini)train. On the depth chart, he was behind everyone who suited up for the Jazz the last 2 years. Looking forward to Jazz summer league this year for him alone, in hopes something manifests. I remember him doing a great job on DeRozan and even Gay in the bubble ... thought it was his breakout ... then... nothing.


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Post#29 » by TO11 » Tue Aug 3, 2021 10:45 pm

I’m not really excited about the pick up either TBH. I don’t understand what he adds at all. Also the contract isn’t on “deal” by any means…


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Post#30 » by dr0welf » Tue Aug 3, 2021 10:49 pm

I think we have atleast 1 trade they are still working on. Zanic said on 1280 the zone a couple days ago that in we will see a lot of small moves but in "2 weeks" we should be able to look back and see the full picture. I like what they have done so far but overall it is still kinda meh... I don't think they put us in championship contention yet.
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Post#31 » by D Rog » Wed Aug 4, 2021 12:11 am

Thinking about Rudy Gay to Utah reminds me of Jeff Green and Ed Davis to Utah... I am not comparing them, just hoping for better results but being realistic.
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Post#32 » by dr0welf » Wed Aug 4, 2021 12:26 am

D Rog wrote:Thinking about Rudy Gay to Utah reminds me of Jeff Green and Ed Davis to Utah... I am not comparing them, just hoping for better results but being realistic.


Rudy Gay is better then Green and Davis combined, but I get what you are saying. I also hope it works out. I think the JJ comparison was closer.
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Post#33 » by tugs » Wed Aug 4, 2021 12:30 am

What hasn't been discussed is Gay's contribution with his experience as a locker room guy. Haven't heard any issues when he was in Toronto, Sacramento, and Spurs. Feels like a pro's pro, especially coming off a multi-year stint with a Gregg Popovich. Hey could be Utah's version of a Vince Carter
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Post#34 » by sip » Wed Aug 4, 2021 12:42 am

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D Rog wrote:Thinking about Rudy Gay to Utah reminds me of Jeff Green and Ed Davis to Utah... I am not comparing them, just hoping for better results but being realistic.


Rudy Gay is better then Green and Davis combined, but I get what you are saying. I also hope it works out. I think the JJ comparison was closer.
Jeff Green is definitely a better player than Rudy Gay at this point in there careers. I don't think it is really that close when you consider the defensive end of the court.

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Post#35 » by dr0welf » Wed Aug 4, 2021 12:51 am

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D Rog wrote:Thinking about Rudy Gay to Utah reminds me of Jeff Green and Ed Davis to Utah... I am not comparing them, just hoping for better results but being realistic.


Rudy Gay is better then Green and Davis combined, but I get what you are saying. I also hope it works out. I think the JJ comparison was closer.
Jeff Green is definitely a better player than Rudy Gay at this point in there careers. I don't think it is really that close when you consider the defensive end of the court.

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You think? I am not sold. I think Gay is better then Green by a mile and a half including the defensive side.
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Post#36 » by sip » Wed Aug 4, 2021 1:08 am

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Rudy Gay is better then Green and Davis combined, but I get what you are saying. I also hope it works out. I think the JJ comparison was closer.
Jeff Green is definitely a better player than Rudy Gay at this point in there careers. I don't think it is really that close when you consider the defensive end of the court.

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You think? I am not sold. I think Gay is better then Green by a mile and a half including the defensive side.
Did you actually watch Rudy play last year? The guy moves like a 35yr old who has torn his Achilles. He is not a good athlete anymore. Jeff Green is still am extremely fluid athlete at his age and defensively there is no comparison between the 2.

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Post#37 » by dr0welf » Wed Aug 4, 2021 1:11 am

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sip wrote:Jeff Green is definitely a better player than Rudy Gay at this point in there careers. I don't think it is really that close when you consider the defensive end of the court.

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You think? I am not sold. I think Gay is better then Green by a mile and a half including the defensive side.
Did you actually watch Rudy play last year? The guy moves like a 35yr old who has torn his Achilles. He is not a good athlete anymore. Jeff Green is still am extremely fluid athlete at his age and defensively there is no comparison between the 2.

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Gay is definitely slower then he used to be, but Jeff Green looks stiff to me everytime I watch him.
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Post#38 » by ForeverRDjazz » Wed Aug 4, 2021 2:52 am

sip wrote:
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sip wrote:Jeff Green is definitely a better player than Rudy Gay at this point in there careers. I don't think it is really that close when you consider the defensive end of the court.

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You think? I am not sold. I think Gay is better then Green by a mile and a half including the defensive side.
Did you actually watch Rudy play last year? The guy moves like a 35yr old who has torn his Achilles. He is not a good athlete anymore. Jeff Green is still am extremely fluid athlete at his age and defensively there is no comparison between the 2.

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I did watch Rudy last year and seamed to play pretty good still and I was surprise. If he brings what I seen I think it's a upgrade over Niang spot up shooting. Niang who never guarded anyone while on the floor. But only time will tell if he has any gas left in the old tank.
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Post#39 » by ForeverRDjazz » Wed Aug 4, 2021 2:53 am

P.S Green isn't even the same level Rudy is.
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Post#40 » by sip » Wed Aug 4, 2021 3:29 am

ForeverRDjazz wrote:P.S Green isn't even the same level Rudy is.
What does Rudy do better than Green? Rudy hasn't been a better player than Green since he tore his achilles.

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