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Re: Rudy gay to Utah

Posted: Tue Aug 3, 2021 6:11 pm
by stitches
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Re: Rudy gay to Utah

Posted: Tue Aug 3, 2021 7:14 pm
by Daddy 801
Decent signing.

Still need to sign a young 6’7” or taller young player with lots of athleticism who is a good defender.

Re: Rudy gay to Utah

Posted: Tue Aug 3, 2021 7:40 pm
by AingesBurner
Daddy 801 wrote:Decent signing.

Still need to sign a young 6’7” or taller young player with lots of athleticism who is a good defender.


Jarrell Brantley...

Re: Rudy gay to Utah

Posted: Tue Aug 3, 2021 7:49 pm
by sip
I guess I am the only one that doesn't like this signing. Yes he is an upgrade over Favors but he doesn't move well anymore and is a bad defender. If we wanted a stretch 4 that doesn't play defense then we could have gotten Jabari Parker for the minimum. I have a feeling next offseason he exercises his player option and it turns into a bad contract that we are forced to give up an asset to dump. I think you probably could have gotten the exact same production out of Ilyasova if you force feed him the same amount of minutes Gay received last year.

Re: Rudy gay to Utah

Posted: Tue Aug 3, 2021 7:55 pm
by sip
Too bad Quin burned the bridge with Jeff Green because I would much rather have him over Gay.

Re: Rudy gay to Utah

Posted: Tue Aug 3, 2021 8:34 pm
by zero24gravity
GobertReport wrote:
Daddy 801 wrote:Decent signing.

Still need to sign a young 6’7” or taller young player with lots of athleticism who is a good defender.


Jarrell Brantley...


I keep thinking this ....but I think it's nearly time to jump off the (mini)train. On the depth chart, he was behind everyone who suited up for the Jazz the last 2 years. Looking forward to Jazz summer league this year for him alone, in hopes something manifests. I remember him doing a great job on DeRozan and even Gay in the bubble ... thought it was his breakout ... then... nothing.

Re: Rudy gay to Utah

Posted: Tue Aug 3, 2021 8:36 pm
by zero24gravity
sip wrote:I guess I am the only one that doesn't like this signing. Yes he is an upgrade over Favors but he doesn't move well anymore and is a bad defender. If we wanted a stretch 4 that doesn't play defense then we could have gotten Jabari Parker for the minimum. I have a feeling next offseason he exercises his player option and it turns into a bad contract that we are forced to give up an asset to dump. I think you probably could have gotten the exact same production out of Ilyasova if you force feed him the same amount of minutes Gay received last year.



Anytime I see Parker as an option, I automatically disagree.

Soooo ...no. :lol:

Gay is still far more defensively competent than Jabari, and isn't a total ball-stopper.

I do think the Jazz under-played Ily, though.

Re: Rudy gay to Utah

Posted: Tue Aug 3, 2021 8:38 pm
by AingesBurner
zero24gravity wrote:
GobertReport wrote:
Daddy 801 wrote:Decent signing.

Still need to sign a young 6’7” or taller young player with lots of athleticism who is a good defender.


Jarrell Brantley...


I keep thinking this ....but I think it's nearly time to jump off the (mini)train. On the depth chart, he was behind everyone who suited up for the Jazz the last 2 years. Looking forward to Jazz summer league this year for him alone, in hopes something manifests. I remember him doing a great job on DeRozan and even Gay in the bubble ... thought it was his breakout ... then... nothing.


He was always 2 years from being a year away.

Re: Rudy gay to Utah

Posted: Tue Aug 3, 2021 10:45 pm
by TO11
I’m not really excited about the pick up either TBH. I don’t understand what he adds at all. Also the contract isn’t on “deal” by any means…


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Re: Rudy gay to Utah

Posted: Tue Aug 3, 2021 10:49 pm
by dr0welf
I think we have atleast 1 trade they are still working on. Zanic said on 1280 the zone a couple days ago that in we will see a lot of small moves but in "2 weeks" we should be able to look back and see the full picture. I like what they have done so far but overall it is still kinda meh... I don't think they put us in championship contention yet.

Re: Rudy gay to Utah

Posted: Wed Aug 4, 2021 12:11 am
by D Rog
Thinking about Rudy Gay to Utah reminds me of Jeff Green and Ed Davis to Utah... I am not comparing them, just hoping for better results but being realistic.

Re: Rudy gay to Utah

Posted: Wed Aug 4, 2021 12:26 am
by dr0welf
D Rog wrote:Thinking about Rudy Gay to Utah reminds me of Jeff Green and Ed Davis to Utah... I am not comparing them, just hoping for better results but being realistic.


Rudy Gay is better then Green and Davis combined, but I get what you are saying. I also hope it works out. I think the JJ comparison was closer.

Re: Rudy gay to Utah

Posted: Wed Aug 4, 2021 12:30 am
by tugs
What hasn't been discussed is Gay's contribution with his experience as a locker room guy. Haven't heard any issues when he was in Toronto, Sacramento, and Spurs. Feels like a pro's pro, especially coming off a multi-year stint with a Gregg Popovich. Hey could be Utah's version of a Vince Carter

Re: Rudy gay to Utah

Posted: Wed Aug 4, 2021 12:42 am
by sip
dr0welf wrote:
D Rog wrote:Thinking about Rudy Gay to Utah reminds me of Jeff Green and Ed Davis to Utah... I am not comparing them, just hoping for better results but being realistic.


Rudy Gay is better then Green and Davis combined, but I get what you are saying. I also hope it works out. I think the JJ comparison was closer.
Jeff Green is definitely a better player than Rudy Gay at this point in there careers. I don't think it is really that close when you consider the defensive end of the court.

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Re: Rudy gay to Utah

Posted: Wed Aug 4, 2021 12:51 am
by dr0welf
sip wrote:
dr0welf wrote:
D Rog wrote:Thinking about Rudy Gay to Utah reminds me of Jeff Green and Ed Davis to Utah... I am not comparing them, just hoping for better results but being realistic.


Rudy Gay is better then Green and Davis combined, but I get what you are saying. I also hope it works out. I think the JJ comparison was closer.
Jeff Green is definitely a better player than Rudy Gay at this point in there careers. I don't think it is really that close when you consider the defensive end of the court.

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You think? I am not sold. I think Gay is better then Green by a mile and a half including the defensive side.

Re: Rudy gay to Utah

Posted: Wed Aug 4, 2021 1:08 am
by sip
dr0welf wrote:
sip wrote:
dr0welf wrote:
Rudy Gay is better then Green and Davis combined, but I get what you are saying. I also hope it works out. I think the JJ comparison was closer.
Jeff Green is definitely a better player than Rudy Gay at this point in there careers. I don't think it is really that close when you consider the defensive end of the court.

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You think? I am not sold. I think Gay is better then Green by a mile and a half including the defensive side.
Did you actually watch Rudy play last year? The guy moves like a 35yr old who has torn his Achilles. He is not a good athlete anymore. Jeff Green is still am extremely fluid athlete at his age and defensively there is no comparison between the 2.

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Re: Rudy gay to Utah

Posted: Wed Aug 4, 2021 1:11 am
by dr0welf
sip wrote:
dr0welf wrote:
sip wrote:Jeff Green is definitely a better player than Rudy Gay at this point in there careers. I don't think it is really that close when you consider the defensive end of the court.

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You think? I am not sold. I think Gay is better then Green by a mile and a half including the defensive side.
Did you actually watch Rudy play last year? The guy moves like a 35yr old who has torn his Achilles. He is not a good athlete anymore. Jeff Green is still am extremely fluid athlete at his age and defensively there is no comparison between the 2.

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Gay is definitely slower then he used to be, but Jeff Green looks stiff to me everytime I watch him.

Re: Rudy gay to Utah

Posted: Wed Aug 4, 2021 2:52 am
by ForeverRDjazz
sip wrote:
dr0welf wrote:
sip wrote:Jeff Green is definitely a better player than Rudy Gay at this point in there careers. I don't think it is really that close when you consider the defensive end of the court.

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You think? I am not sold. I think Gay is better then Green by a mile and a half including the defensive side.
Did you actually watch Rudy play last year? The guy moves like a 35yr old who has torn his Achilles. He is not a good athlete anymore. Jeff Green is still am extremely fluid athlete at his age and defensively there is no comparison between the 2.

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I did watch Rudy last year and seamed to play pretty good still and I was surprise. If he brings what I seen I think it's a upgrade over Niang spot up shooting. Niang who never guarded anyone while on the floor. But only time will tell if he has any gas left in the old tank.

Re: Rudy gay to Utah

Posted: Wed Aug 4, 2021 2:53 am
by ForeverRDjazz
P.S Green isn't even the same level Rudy is.

Re: Rudy gay to Utah

Posted: Wed Aug 4, 2021 3:29 am
by sip
ForeverRDjazz wrote:P.S Green isn't even the same level Rudy is.
What does Rudy do better than Green? Rudy hasn't been a better player than Green since he tore his achilles.

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