Welcome to the future, Marty. Jazz 2023
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Welcome to the future, Marty. Jazz 2023
Let’s post our ideas for next off season.
I think Jazz get Ayton this season, and trade some other players to free up space for 2023.
We walk into 2023 with 25-30 mill in cap. We finished the season 40-42, have a lotto pick.
Draft:
13
24
Jazz combine both picks and move up into the top 10.
Off-season:
Jazz sign Wiggins to a 4 year 95 mill deal
Jazz use the MLE on Beasley
Jazz use BAE on Wing
What do you think happens?
I think Jazz get Ayton this season, and trade some other players to free up space for 2023.
We walk into 2023 with 25-30 mill in cap. We finished the season 40-42, have a lotto pick.
Draft:
13
24
Jazz combine both picks and move up into the top 10.
Off-season:
Jazz sign Wiggins to a 4 year 95 mill deal
Jazz use the MLE on Beasley
Jazz use BAE on Wing
What do you think happens?
Ingles is cooked.
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I don't know what they are going to look like, but I wish they would hurry up. I want to see what we are cheering on this upcoming season and its definitely not the jerseys. 
I do expect Conley and Bogie to get moved if they find the right trade. I doubt we get any big trade piece like Ayton, but keeping my expectations kind of low.
I do expect Conley and Bogie to get moved if they find the right trade. I doubt we get any big trade piece like Ayton, but keeping my expectations kind of low.
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What do we give Ayton? Currently we have 3 picks for next year, so is one going for Ayton? Why would we sign a player we have bird rights to in Beasley to our MLE? Also he'd have to have a pretty poor season to only be worth that, unless he's joining a more competitive team. Where are we getting 13? Is that our pick? Is a near .500 record going to yield end of the lottery? Not sure on that

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I think we stand pat and keep our flexibility for next offseason.
Draft picks: #10, #18, #22
Free agent signings: DeAndre Hunter (4 yr/$100M), Keldon Johnson (4 yr/$90M)
Draft picks: Dereck Lively (#10), Leonard Miller (#18), Amari Bailey (#22)
Draft picks: #10, #18, #22
Free agent signings: DeAndre Hunter (4 yr/$100M), Keldon Johnson (4 yr/$90M)
Draft picks: Dereck Lively (#10), Leonard Miller (#18), Amari Bailey (#22)
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We could have like $50M+ in cap space next summer
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jrj202 wrote:We could have like $50M+ in cap space next summer
I am really trying to find out if you’re really Ainges Burner
Ingles is cooked.
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AingesBurner wrote:jrj202 wrote:We could have like $50M+ in cap space next summer
I am really trying to find out if you’re really Ainges Burner
You caught me.
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When does the new tv deal go into effect? Hearing that will raise the cap significantly
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No way we stand patjrj202 wrote:I think we stand pat and keep our flexibility for next offseason.
Draft picks: #10, #18, #22
Free agent signings: DeAndre Hunter (4 yr/$100M), Keldon Johnson (4 yr/$90M)
Draft picks: Dereck Lively (#10), Leonard Miller (#18), Amari Bailey (#22)
Don, Con, Bev, But
Beasley, Clarkson, NAW, Bolmaro
Bogey
Vanderbilt, Gay
Azubuike, Kessler
We're not carrying 8 guards into the season especially considering at least 5 are borderline starter quality.

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I think you are going to see a couple more moves from us once things start going again on the trade line. Ayton getting traded soon might get things moving. But I think we are going to see Conley, Bogey, Gay, and another guard or 2 get traded before the season starts. One could be Spida if we get someone willing to pay enough.
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CAE15 wrote:No way we stand patjrj202 wrote:I think we stand pat and keep our flexibility for next offseason.
Draft picks: #10, #18, #22
Free agent signings: DeAndre Hunter (4 yr/$100M), Keldon Johnson (4 yr/$90M)
Draft picks: Dereck Lively (#10), Leonard Miller (#18), Amari Bailey (#22)
Don, Con, Bev, But
Beasley, Clarkson, NAW, Bolmaro
Bogey
Vanderbilt, Gay
Azubuike, Kessler
We're not carrying 8 guards into the season especially considering at least 5 are borderline starter quality.
I could see Poeltl as an option with one of our TPEs. I don't think we make any more big trades other than Conley/Bojan.
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If the goal is to try and be competitive I'd try to swing:
Jazz receive: Richardson, Poeltl / Spurs receive: Conley, 2023 1st (Via Minn)
Jazz receive: John Collins | Hawks receive: Bojan, Gay, 2023 1st (Via PHI)
PG - Donovan | Beverly | Butler
SG - Beasley | Clarkson | NAW
SF - Richardson | Bolmaro
PF - Collins | Vanderbilt
C - Poeltl | Kessler | Udoka
Jazz receive: Richardson, Poeltl / Spurs receive: Conley, 2023 1st (Via Minn)
Jazz receive: John Collins | Hawks receive: Bojan, Gay, 2023 1st (Via PHI)
PG - Donovan | Beverly | Butler
SG - Beasley | Clarkson | NAW
SF - Richardson | Bolmaro
PF - Collins | Vanderbilt
C - Poeltl | Kessler | Udoka
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Trade Bojan, Beverly, 2023 1st (via Minn), future 1st for Wiggins and give Barrett a max offer sheet next summer. Draft Dereck Lively with our 1st.
Donovan - Barrett - Wiggins - Vanderbilt - Lively
Donovan - Barrett - Wiggins - Vanderbilt - Lively
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You know Wiggins is an expiring, yes? That is a bunch to give up for an expiring contract for a guy who could easily walk unless you're maxing him again. Knicks will get an extension done with RJ beforehandjrj202 wrote:Trade Bojan, Beverly, 2023 1st (via Minn), future 1st for Wiggins and give Barrett a max offer sheet next summer. Draft Dereck Lively with our 1st.
Donovan - Barrett - Wiggins - Vanderbilt - Lively

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jrj202 wrote:AingesBurner wrote:jrj202 wrote:We could have like $50M+ in cap space next summer
I am really trying to find out if you’re really Ainges Burner
You caught me.
Ainge probably has several burners. I think we're all Ainge's burners.
Draft Nate Wolters - FAILED
Keep Nate Wolters - FAILED

Keep Nate Wolters - FAILED

KqWIN wrote:Why are we talking about Middleton, Harris, and Porter?
The real decision the Jazz FO is making is between Continuity, Cap Flexibility, and Cash Considerations.
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CAE15 wrote:You know Wiggins is an expiring, yes? That is a bunch to give up for an expiring contract for a guy who could easily walk unless you're maxing him again. Knicks will get an extension done with RJ beforehandjrj202 wrote:Trade Bojan, Beverly, 2023 1st (via Minn), future 1st for Wiggins and give Barrett a max offer sheet next summer. Draft Dereck Lively with our 1st.
Donovan - Barrett - Wiggins - Vanderbilt - Lively
You obviously only make this trade if you're extending Wiggins. RJ getting extended by the Knicks is far from guaranteed


