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Game 26: Portland at Utah

Posted: Sun Dec 4, 2022 2:01 am
by red4hf
Let's see if the Jazz can keep their win streak going......

Re: Game 26: Portland at Utah

Posted: Sun Dec 4, 2022 2:27 am
by red4hf
Jazz defense definitely leaves something to be desired......

Re: Game 26: Portland at Utah

Posted: Sun Dec 4, 2022 2:39 am
by red4hf
Kessler having another good game early......

Re: Game 26: Portland at Utah

Posted: Sun Dec 4, 2022 3:26 am
by red4hf
Vanderbilt with 4 threes!!!!!!

Re: Game 26: Portland at Utah

Posted: Sun Dec 4, 2022 3:30 am
by Jiipee84
If that bull cheese defence won't change NOW Jazz will lose this game about 20-30 points.
Simons is god-mode and if / when he keeps that shooting on 50-60 point game wouldn't be surprise.

WAKE UP Jazz there's GAME going on thank god you guys are only 9 points down but how long.
Lets even try to win this game.

Re: Game 26: Portland at Utah

Posted: Sun Dec 4, 2022 4:18 am
by red4hf
Good God this team is frustrating..... Why would you stand so close to the half-way line?

Re: Game 26: Portland at Utah

Posted: Sun Dec 4, 2022 4:22 am
by red4hf
Somebody really has to explain to me what Olynyk is doing on the last couple of possessions?

Re: Game 26: Portland at Utah

Posted: Sun Dec 4, 2022 4:39 am
by Jiipee84
red4hf wrote:Somebody really has to explain to me what Olynyk is doing on the last couple of possessions?


Wrong.
Someone should explain what the **** Markkanen was doing 2 straight possessions 2 weak plays both times and game over.

And then that freaking Sexton and Clarkson hero-ball has Hardy or someone else decided or ordered
that Lauri will not shoot and score at all mostly in 4th quarter Sexton 0 assists and Clarkson 3 assists
and still those two tunnel-vision clowns cannot see Lauri wide open sometimes.

Please in name of god get Conley back ASAP tonights ball movement and sharing was utter bull.
Sometimes this Jazz team is so freaking infuriating to watch.

But if the goal is tank for Wemby then play more Sexton and Clarkson hero-ball.
Ps who freaking idiot has made that Jazz game schedule was that 7th or 8th back to back game in this season.
Hooray goddammit.

Re: Game 26: Portland at Utah

Posted: Sun Dec 4, 2022 5:42 am
by PaKii94
Jiipee84 wrote:
red4hf wrote:Somebody really has to explain to me what Olynyk is doing on the last couple of possessions?


Wrong.
Someone should explain what the **** Markkanen was doing 2 straight possessions 2 weak plays both times and game over.

And then that freaking Sexton and Clarkson hero-ball has Hardy or someone else decided or ordered
that Lauri will not shoot and score at all mostly in 4th quarter Sexton 0 assists and Clarkson 3 assists
and still those two tunnel-vision clowns cannot see Lauri wide open sometimes.

Please in name of god get Conley back ASAP tonights ball movement and sharing was utter bull.
Sometimes this Jazz team is so freaking infuriating to watch.

But if the goal is tank for Wemby then play more Sexton and Clarkson hero-ball.
Ps who freaking idiot has made that Jazz game schedule was that 7th or 8th back to back game in this season.
Hooray goddammit.


Some of these second halves reminds me of the bulls team with lavine and Coby white as the playmakers. The first look pass to Lauri should be an easy dump in but the guards can't do it. The play resets and Lauri resets in the corner. Luckily his shooting is on right now but he's getting neutered again by the playmakers.

Jazz do desperately need Conley back.

Re: Game 26: Portland at Utah

Posted: Sun Dec 4, 2022 7:33 am
by edededtut
I don’t understand how Clarkson fouled simons but nurkic didn’t foul Markkanen.

One used hands, one didn’t. Just pathetic refereeing with the game on the line.

Re: Game 26: Portland at Utah

Posted: Sun Dec 4, 2022 9:12 am
by FJS
Jazz need to deffense better.

Our bench was badly outscored. Only Clarkson was -4.
Olynyk, Markannen, Vanderbilt and Sexton were +1,+6,+5 and +8.

We can't afford clarkson + Beasley 11-35 FG.

Re: Game 26: Portland at Utah

Posted: Sun Dec 4, 2022 9:17 am
by FJS
Still, Our draft chances are getting better... Wolves loses vs OKC, and our own lose.
We are 8th, Wolves 11th.
I guess Lakers will improve and maybe they will be above Wolves, and maybe us with Dallas and Portland with their chances too to pass us.
Still there's a lot of parity, it's not there's clear teams better than others, and there's gonna be a lot of games being lose between each other.

Re: Game 26: Portland at Utah

Posted: Sun Dec 4, 2022 1:49 pm
by Crunch 99
I didn't see much of the game, but it looks like Lillard, Grant and young Simons have the potential to develop in to a credible Big Three on offense. While Lillard has been out the last seven games, Grant has averaged 29.1 ppg on 21.6 fga and Simons has averaged 29.1 ppg on 19.6 fga. But they are only 2-5 over that stretch without Lillard.

Re: Game 26: Portland at Utah

Posted: Sun Dec 4, 2022 2:17 pm
by Crunch 99
FJS wrote:
Our bench was badly outscored. Only Clarkson was -4.
Olynyk, Markannen, Vanderbilt and Sexton were +1,+6,+5 and +8.

We can't afford clarkson + Beasley 11-35 FG.


Someone posted earlier that when Sexton replaces Conley as a starter, we not only need Sexton to come as close as possible to replacing Conley's production and leadership, we also need someone to credibly replace Sexton the bench player, and we've fallen short on that. THT has been a good assist man, but he is not nearly as good a scorer as Sexton. When Conley finally comes back, Wednesday hopefully, our bench competitiveness will improve with Sexton back on it.

But I am sad to see Sexton with zero assists last night right after I praised his progress in another thread. I must have jinxed him. Lol. At least he is still scoring very efficiently.

Re: Game 26: Portland at Utah

Posted: Sun Dec 4, 2022 2:26 pm
by Jiipee84
PaKii94 wrote:
Jiipee84 wrote:
red4hf wrote:Somebody really has to explain to me what Olynyk is doing on the last couple of possessions?


Wrong.
Someone should explain what the **** Markkanen was doing 2 straight possessions 2 weak plays both times and game over.

And then that freaking Sexton and Clarkson hero-ball has Hardy or someone else decided or ordered
that Lauri will not shoot and score at all mostly in 4th quarter Sexton 0 assists and Clarkson 3 assists
and still those two tunnel-vision clowns cannot see Lauri wide open sometimes.

Please in name of god get Conley back ASAP tonights ball movement and sharing was utter bull.
Sometimes this Jazz team is so freaking infuriating to watch.

But if the goal is tank for Wemby then play more Sexton and Clarkson hero-ball.
Ps who freaking idiot has made that Jazz game schedule was that 7th or 8th back to back game in this season.
Hooray goddammit.


Some of these second halves reminds me of the bulls team with lavine and Coby white as the playmakers. The first look pass to Lauri should be an easy dump in but the guards can't do it. The play resets and Lauri resets in the corner. Luckily his shooting is on right now but he's getting neutered again by the playmakers.

Jazz do desperately need Conley back.


Yes Jazz needs Conley.
Jazz should seriously think what's better now is it win so many games as possible and go to playoffs.
Or is it better to start tanking and turn the focus for 2023 NBA draft and get draft Wemby or Henderson.
If Ainge choose tanking then Jazz have to keep Conley out so much as they want or play him limited minutes.

What comes to Lauri that Clarkson - Sexton hero ball unit truly brings strong Lavine- White flashbacks a bit too often.
But it is what it is so long when Conley is out and Jazz do not have realy backup PG who can keep ball moving etc.

So far Conley is only real PG so the question should be why Ainge didn't try get legit backup PG before this season started.
Now Sexton is playing PG but he isn't actual PG and nether is Clarkson.

Re: Game 26: Portland at Utah

Posted: Sun Dec 4, 2022 2:43 pm
by red4hf
Markkanen had 10 FGA, Clarkson had 26...... That can't happen again......

Re: Game 26: Portland at Utah

Posted: Sun Dec 4, 2022 6:57 pm
by FranchisePlayer
Crunch 99 wrote:
FJS wrote:
Our bench was badly outscored. Only Clarkson was -4.
Olynyk, Markannen, Vanderbilt and Sexton were +1,+6,+5 and +8.

We can't afford clarkson + Beasley 11-35 FG.


Someone posted earlier that when Sexton replaces Conley as a starter, we not only need Sexton to come as close as possible to replacing Conley's production and leadership, we also need someone to credibly replace Sexton the bench player, and we've fallen short on that. THT has been a good assist man, but he is not nearly as good a scorer as Sexton. When Conley finally comes back, Wednesday hopefully, our bench competitiveness will improve with Sexton back on it.

But I am sad to see Sexton with zero assists last night right after I praised his progress in another thread. I must have jinxed him. Lol. At least he is still scoring very efficiently.


Not gonna roast you on that buddy, but the thing is:

The Jazz don't need a high scoring PG but someone who can deliver the ball to Markkanen. He's by far the most efficient and consistent scorer this team has.

Bench sucked though, yes. But IMO it's of secondary value. And like I have previously mentioned, Sexton and Clarkson together are are a bad combo, low BB IQ combined.

Clarkson just keeps on chucking even though they're not going in. Hardy needs to tighten the leash both on Clarkson and Sexton.

Re: Game 26: Portland at Utah

Posted: Sun Dec 4, 2022 8:09 pm
by Jiipee84
red4hf wrote:Markkanen had 10 FGA, Clarkson had 26...... That can't happen again......


Yeah you're right.
These nights when ball is not moving enough ( Seton 0 assists and Clarkson 3 ) Conley's playmaking is more than needed.
But if the goal is now more to tank for Wemby or Scoot Henderson then Jazz can keep Conley out so long as they need and want to,

Lauri should be clear number 1 guy in Jazz scoring if Jazz wants him becoming allstar.
But this is first time in Lauri's career when he even has got attention for opposite defences
and of course other teams know how dangerous scorer Lauri can be when he's hot.

Coach Hardy truly is promising young coach and he's got bright future with NBA coaching.
But if there is something what Hardy and whole Jazz coaching staff should do better
that absolutely is train and educate Lauri to being that star what Jazz wants him to be.
It will take time for sure but it is a marathon not a sprint Lauri is coming his prime so he'll get better with a time.

But then there's that other side and it is that if Jazz will start make more plays for Lauri how Clarkson and Sexton will take that.
Clarkson is also competing allstar status with Lauri so can Hardy and other coaches be sure of that
JC and Sexton will not start whine and cry if Lauri really gets number 1 status in Jazz scoring.
That's the question and it absolutely is easier said than done.

Re: Game 26: Portland at Utah

Posted: Sun Dec 4, 2022 10:46 pm
by Hoops Addict
Kessler is really good

Walker Kessler 20 Pts 11 Reb 2 Blk vs Pacers Highlights





Watch on YouTube

Re: Game 26: Portland at Utah

Posted: Mon Dec 5, 2022 7:33 pm
by FranchisePlayer
red4hf wrote:Markkanen had 10 FGA, Clarkson had 26...... That can't happen again......


Yeah, like never. That ratio is insane, especially since they played the same amount of minutes. Clarkson 1/9 behind the arc, Lauri 4/6...