Does anyone else want to slap Jason Hart?

Six_Fore · Post #1 » by **Six_Fore** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:08 pm

I am getting so frustrated with this guy and with Sloan giving him so much playing time. Now I know I've been a big "Pro Sloan" guy, but that doesn't mean I can't disagree with him, and this is driving me nuts.

Last nights line:
22 Min - 2 Pts - 1 Ast - 3 Rbs - 14% FG - 4 Fouls

Wow, that is horrendous. Why the hell is he paying 22 minutes?! He shot 1 for freaking 7. He is so bad it ridiculous. He's a PG and has only had 2 games of 5 assists, and never more than that. Is anyone else sick and tired of watching him dribble out the clock at the end of quarters and chuck up a bad 3? Last night, Korver is standing wide open at the end of the quarter(1st, I think), Hart dribbles the clock down and what do you know... keeps it, throws up a 3 and it clanks off. Surprise! Is it just me? He's so bad, I'm sure if you threw me out there, I could put up more than 1 assist and 2 points in 22 minutes. :banghead:

Pai Gow · Post #2 » by **Pai Gow** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:29 pm

Blow Out and No Price

Post #3 » by **loserX** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:31 pm

I hate to say "I told you so"...under the circumstances I really hate it :-?

Why anyone in the organization thought a guy who was CUT by the awful Kings last year would be a solution is beyond me.

hoops4life · Post #4 » by **hoops4life** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:10 pm

He really reminds me a lot of the younger Eisley.

He is a backup, so I don't expect him to average more than 5 assists for the most part but in 22 minutes it should be more than 1.

JDubJazz · Post #5 » by **JDubJazz** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:26 pm

I could accept it if he was just backing up Deron, but this business with Deron and Hart playing at the SAME TIME has got to stop. Why in the world should he take any minutes from Brew, CJ, Mo or Kyle? Its just absolutely rediculous and is the best illustration of why Jerry Sloan should be outright fired.

isrred · Post #6 » by **isrred** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:31 pm

Can we make this the next Jazz promo day? Or part of one of those ticket packages they are always offering? "Buy to tickets to see the Jazz play the Mavs and the Kings and get two tickets to see the Jazz take on the Clippers, two tickets to any bees baseball game, AND the ability to B**** slap Jason Hart for sucking so bad" "Sounds like a good deal to me booner" "And thats another $50 for habitat for humanity....oh wait, rainbow peppermill hotel casino...no, umm yes a very good deal"

soapblaster · Post #7 » by **soapblaster** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:38 pm

I'd rather kick him in the nuts. If I have to watch him dribble the clock out and chuch up a 20 foot prayer with his ass ugly shot at the end of a quarter again, I think I will kick him in the nuts through my TV.

kebutah · Post #8 » by **kebutah** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:50 pm

I try not to watch the end of quarters because it makes me very angry to watch his lousy performance.

ColdBlue · Post #9 » by **ColdBlue** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:20 pm

kebutah wrote:I try not to watch the end of quarters because it makes me very angry to watch his lousy performance.

I wonder how many points it is costing us a game? Fish wasn't great, but he at least wasn't completely ineffective like Hart.

I would say that Hart is probably costing us 5 points a game.

jazzed77 · Post #10 » by **jazzed77** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:35 pm

what I don't understand is this "defensive" reputation he has.....his man is always driving right past him(and often drawing a cheap slap foul in the process) yet people still say "well he's there for his defense and b/c he doesn't turn the ball over" with his awful shooting and 0 passing ability every possesion he's controlling the offense is basicly a t/o.....I think with how poorly the offense runs with him out there he costs the Jazz at least 8-10 points a game....

soapblaster · Post #11 » by **soapblaster** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:52 pm

jazzed77 wrote:what I don't understand is this "defensive" reputation he has.....his man is always driving right past him(and often drawing a cheap slap foul in the process) yet people still say "well he's there for his defense and b/c he doesn't turn the ball over" with his awful shooting and 0 passing ability every possesion he's controlling the offense is basicly a t/o.....I think with how poorly the offense runs with him out there he costs the Jazz at least 8-10 points a game....

It's impossible to turn the ball over, when you are chucking the ball at the end of the quarter. That's what I would say to people that think he protects the ball.

hoops4life · Post #12 » by **hoops4life** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:58 pm

Doesn't David Locke from 1320 do a +/- for each player on the team?

de2nd · Post #13 » by **de2nd** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:59 pm

loserX wrote:I hate to say "I told you so"...under the circumstances I really hate it

Why anyone in the organization thought a guy who was CUT by the awful Kings last year would be a solution is beyond me.

Well, to be fair, he did finish up the season STARTING for the LA Clippers and did a very good job with them in that role. Sure they were out of hte playoff picture, but they finished strong.

jazzdude · Post #14 » by **jazzdude** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:26 pm

Every time I watch Hart play I have flashbacks to the glorious Keith Mcleod era. Why the Jazz didn't bring back Dee Brown instead of signing Hart is still a mystery to me.

code_monkey · Post #15 » by **code_monkey** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 1:11 am

jazzdude wrote:Every time I watch Hart play I have flashbacks to the glorious Keith Mcleod era. Why the Jazz didn't bring back Dee Brown instead of signing Hart is still a mystery to me.

Cuz the jazz can't have a good backup PG. Ever. The rules state that if we ever find a backup PG with any talent we have to let him go and take on **** players that will get lots of Jerry man-love and playing time.

Speaking of Hart, I don't think I've seen any other guard with as ugly a jumper as what he clangs up night after night. People keep bringing up Brew's shot, but that thing looks like butter compared to the crap that Hart chucks. Man I wish I got paid 2.5 mil to play like he does.

-CM

Duiz · Post #16 » by **Duiz** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:58 am

OMFG.. can people let Dee Brown die. I am sorry to break it to you, but DEE SUCKED! Eddie Gill is still better

Da110n0rcutt · Post #17 » by **Da110n0rcutt** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:14 am

HELL YES AND ON THE SWING BACK, BACK HAND HIM ALSO!

isrred · Post #18 » by **isrred** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:17 am

Duiz wrote:OMFG.. can people let Dee Brown die. I am sorry to break it to you, but DEE SUCKED! Eddie Gill is still better

Dee>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hart
Hart is almost as bad at playing as Isaiah Thomas is at coaching/gm'ing...ok he's not THAT bad, but the dude freaking sucks

Duiz · Post #19 » by **Duiz** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:50 am

isrred wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Dee>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hart
Hart is almost as bad at playing as Isaiah Thomas is at coaching/gm'ing...ok he's not THAT bad, but the dude freaking sucks

Dee>>Hart @ running the point
Hart>>>>>> Dee @ defending
Hart >>> Dee @ free Throws
Hard >>>>> Dee @ Experience

And I'm sorry to say this... As it is deplorable in both cases... but...

Hart>> Dee @ shooting

Da110n0rcutt · Post #20 » by **Da110n0rcutt** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 1:46 pm

Dee>>Hart @ running the point
IMO Hart=Dee @ defending
Hart >>> Dee @ free Throws
Hard >>>>> Dee @ Experience
IMO Hart=Dee @ shooting

Running the point and defending are really the only two things we need out of the back up point, and if Dee does one of those better but is equal o n the other then I just think re-signing Dee is just better move for alot less money.