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- Racer X
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http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695245867,00.html
Harps Minutes to Increase
I cant help but feel this is going to be horrible news for our team. Harpring has been acceptable (which is hard for me to say) in the limited minutes he has played backing up AK. However, this means he will be taking minutes away from the AK/Brew/Korver group who in my opinion are more productive in their time, and are less of a liability against the John Salmons of the world continue to torch Harpring again and again and again.
Harps Minutes to Increase
I cant help but feel this is going to be horrible news for our team. Harpring has been acceptable (which is hard for me to say) in the limited minutes he has played backing up AK. However, this means he will be taking minutes away from the AK/Brew/Korver group who in my opinion are more productive in their time, and are less of a liability against the John Salmons of the world continue to torch Harpring again and again and again.
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I couldn't agree more. O'connor believes that the jazz were hurt this year most by Harpring being out (according to the tribune). I respected KOC, but this comment alone make me wonder if he is really paying attention to the games he goes to. Harpring is the worst defensive player on the team, how would it help the defensively challenged Jazz, if we player Harpring MORE?
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great, now instead of having our young athletic guys like miles and brew out on the floor, we get to see even more of harp tripping around and getting dominated by every medicore sf in the league.
we need to just give harpring a severance check or something and send him home while he can still walk.
we need to just give harpring a severance check or something and send him home while he can still walk.
- jazzfan1971
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I feel very comfortable with Harpring on the floor. There is a consistancy there that I like.
When he shoots, I feel it's going in.
When he plays defense, I feel he's making the other guy work hard and getting into his head.
When he fumbles a pass or dribbles a ball off his foot, I drink my shot of tequilla.
By the end of his 16 minutes, I don't care how bad he sucks anymore.
When he shoots, I feel it's going in.
When he plays defense, I feel he's making the other guy work hard and getting into his head.
When he fumbles a pass or dribbles a ball off his foot, I drink my shot of tequilla.
By the end of his 16 minutes, I don't care how bad he sucks anymore.
"Thibs called back and wanted more picks," said Jorge Sedano. "And Pat Riley, literally, I was told, called him a mother-bleeper and hung up the phone."
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But Harpring is the only, ONLY guy on the team that will hot the other guy in the mouth when needed. And in a weird way, hopes to get it right back. He is a Sloan player to the max, except he's probably better offensively than Sloan was. The problem with Miles is he is so soft on D that Sloan will never play him. KK has been better on D than advertised, but don't figure Harpring to get lost in the shuffle because he plays harder than anyone else. I like him for that reason alone. Oh, and the 15 foot curl he makes 8 out of 10 times.
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jazzfan1971 wrote:I feel very comfortable with Harpring on the floor. There is a consistancy there that I like.
When he shoots, I feel it's going in.
When he plays defense, I feel he's making the other guy work hard and getting into his head.
When he fumbles a pass or dribbles a ball off his foot, I drink my shot of tequilla.
By the end of his 16 minutes, I don't care how bad he sucks anymore.
And how about when he falls down as his guy is driving around him for a dunk?
What do you think/do then?
artistic liberties being taken.
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artistic liberties being taken.
When the ball bounces off his hands, you shout out, 'Harpring Hands!' and drink a shot of Tequilla.
When he falls down on defense we shout out, 'Flat Matt!' and take a few moments for a complete shot with salt and lime.
When he hits the bottom of the rim with a layup attempt we shout out, 'he played football', and take a double shot.
When he falls down on defense we shout out, 'Flat Matt!' and take a few moments for a complete shot with salt and lime.
When he hits the bottom of the rim with a layup attempt we shout out, 'he played football', and take a double shot.
"Thibs called back and wanted more picks," said Jorge Sedano. "And Pat Riley, literally, I was told, called him a mother-bleeper and hung up the phone."
Re: artistic liberties being taken.
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Re: artistic liberties being taken.
jazzfan1971 wrote:When the ball bounces off his hands, you shout out, 'Harpring Hands!' and drink a shot of Tequilla.
When he falls down on defense we shout out, 'Flat Matt!' and take a few moments for a complete shot with salt and lime.
When he hits the bottom of the rim with a layup attempt we shout out, 'he played football', and take a double shot.
Haha... I didn't know you had this in you.
My opinion on Harp is that he is still an effective offensive weapon, but for both teams.
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Re: artistic liberties being taken.
jazzfan1971 wrote:When the ball bounces off his hands, you shout out, 'Harpring Hands!' and drink a shot of Tequilla.
When he falls down on defense we shout out, 'Flat Matt!' and take a few moments for a complete shot with salt and lime.
When he hits the bottom of the rim with a layup attempt we shout out, 'he played football', and take a double shot.
Haha... I didn't know you had this in you.
My opinion on Harp is that he is still an effective offensive weapon, but for both teams.
Re: artistic liberties being taken.
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Re: artistic liberties being taken.
ColdBlue wrote: Haha... I didn't know you had this in you.
My opinion on Harp is that he is still an effective offensive weapon, but for both teams.
Well said. I couldn't agree more, Cold.
Increasing Harpring's minutes is a bad idea. At this point in his career, he is definitely a "less is more" player. He can come in for 5-7 minutes at a stretch and hit some jumper's before the other team adjusts and realizes that he is too slow to guard their ball boy. I defintiely cringe when I see him playing at the end of games, because I know his bricked layup is going to result in a fast break dunk on the other end.
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Re: artistic liberties being taken.
jazzfan1971 wrote:When the ball bounces off his hands, you shout out, 'Harpring Hands!' and drink a shot of Tequilla.
When he falls down on defense we shout out, 'Flat Matt!' and take a few moments for a complete shot with salt and lime.
When he hits the bottom of the rim with a layup attempt we shout out, 'he played football', and take a double shot.
You must go through about two bottles of tequila every game.......
And if you're not drinking bad tequila, and I hope you're not, the costs must add up.......
What does Ms. Jazzfan have to say about this habit?
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Even with all his defensive failings, there is no doubt that Harp brings a toughness to this team that is badly lacking.
I've felt for almost a year now that we lack that nasty, mean, scrappy type of player whose attitude is contagious to the rest of the team. Harpring provides something close to that, and it makes a big difference.
Most of his mistakes are physical ones, meaning that he isn't having mental lapses, or making bad decisions, he just is quite skilled enough in some ways to avoid the occasion misdribble or bottom of the rim shot. But he is a vet who plays as hard and as tough as anyone in the league. 20 minutes I can live with, even with the horrible defense. Let's hope it doesn't get any higher than that.
I've felt for almost a year now that we lack that nasty, mean, scrappy type of player whose attitude is contagious to the rest of the team. Harpring provides something close to that, and it makes a big difference.
Most of his mistakes are physical ones, meaning that he isn't having mental lapses, or making bad decisions, he just is quite skilled enough in some ways to avoid the occasion misdribble or bottom of the rim shot. But he is a vet who plays as hard and as tough as anyone in the league. 20 minutes I can live with, even with the horrible defense. Let's hope it doesn't get any higher than that.
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Harpring is giving us something we desperatly need... TOUGHNESS. Maggette completely took AK out of the game on Monday, by over powering him to the hole. But when Harps came in, that stopped. He's a valuable piece, and it's giving CJ a chance to watch what needs to be done when he comes in. And when CJ came in he got his hands on a few passes and got a few steals.... our problem isn't really a problem.. having too many good players is never a problem, it's up to Sloan who gets those minutes...he's got options, but he knows what Harps will bring but CJ, Korver, and Brew seem to be more inconsistent... so Jerry sticks to what he knows will work.
Bye Bye Sloan, Good Riddance Deron. Hello new Era in Jazz Basketball.