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Post#1 » by jazzfan1971 » Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:41 am

I'm liking him on the floor more than Hart. Who's with me?

Anyone prefer Hart? LJ? You usually prefer the company man, what do you think?
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Post#2 » by The Sheik » Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:50 am

I like his complete game more, but I'm not sold on his decision making, passing or ability to create a shot for a teammate. He definitely is a sexier pick then Hart, because his shot isn't ugly and he is a better scorer. But I don't think either PG will be long term solutions here. Price has a shot if he can refine his PG game (court vision, setting up teammates, unselfishness), because he is a tremendous athlete and an above average defender. All he has been asked to run thus far is the Harpring Curl, anything outside of that and he has struggled or taken his own shot.
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Post#3 » by jazz__stoner » Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:56 am

Yes for 71 and yup for Sheik.
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Post#4 » by CAE15 » Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:22 am

I easily prefer Price over Hart, if he has a open shot he has about a 50% chance to make it if hart has it open he has about a 20% chance.
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Post#5 » by edfmx86 » Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:59 am

Ive wanted price in since the begining of the season. hopefully sloan plays him a bit more now that he has seen him play more than he usually does, but i doubt that
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Post#6 » by seejaydeja » Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:19 pm

I would love to see Price take all Hart's minutes. I do worry about Price's decision making, and I think he does make stupid mistakes sometimes, but I'll take anyone or anything over Hart.
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Post#7 » by JTSPEED » Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:14 pm

Chalk another one up for Price here. As far as decision with the ball, Hart went through the same thing but with more time on the floor this is less prevalent. I do like Price's speed and shot better then Hart and that is why I think that he should have more floor time.
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Post#8 » by JDubJazz » Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:20 pm

First let me be clear: I don't think either guy is a good fit for the Jazz. Hart - because he sucks. Price - because he isn't a point guard, he's too short to be a shooting guard and we have too many wing players as it is.

That being said, I'd rather see Price out there than Hart, because if we are going to send someone out there to dribble out the clock and jack up a shot, I'd rather that shot has at least a chance of going in.
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Post#9 » by jazzfan1971 » Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:06 pm

I dont' understand why we keep giving the ball to Hart at the end of the quarter. He's waht? 2-50 in scoring in that situation?

I'd think it'd be better to give the ball to AK instead. Small coaching change, when Deron is sitting, AK is standing.
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Post#10 » by xstockholmsyndromex » Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:32 pm

Price all the way. Much quicker, more athletic, and I think he is a better shooter and defender than Hart. The only thing Hart has on him is height.
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Post#11 » by HolyToledo » Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:51 pm

I think Hart is a better defender and decision maker but Price is more athletic and definitely shoots better. I say Hart had his chance without much results. Let Price be the main back up PG for the next month then decide who to go with for rest of season.
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Post#12 » by LjJazzman » Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:46 pm

Well for the first 25 games or so i'd of said play collins at the point over Hart, just ANYONE over hart. But now I think hart is doing a decent job, other than end of cloak situations. He plays very good D, and plays with a lot of intensity and heart. Price does things as well, just can't run an offense for ****.

IF hart can learn to run the offense a little better i'd go with him, but as of now i'd stick with Hart.

By the way, I think both Hart and Price are worst back ups we have ever had.
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Post#13 » by The Sheik » Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:28 pm

LjJazzman wrote:
By the way, I think both Hart and Price are worst back ups we have ever had.


I think you may be right, they might be giving Mcleod and Palacio a run for their money.
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Post#14 » by The Sheik » Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:33 pm

LjJazzman wrote:Well for the first 25 games or so i'd of said play collins at the point over Hart, just ANYONE over hart. But now I think hart is doing a decent job, other than end of cloak situations. He plays very good D, and plays with a lot of intensity and heart. Price does things as well, just can't run an offense for ****.



You are the only person other then myself to see or at least admit that. I think Hart has been playing really well this month and by well I mean as well as Jason Hart could play (well except for the aformentionned end of the qt/clock situations). Price cant run the offense to save his life, every time he has been in a non set play (harpring curl) he struggles to create for himself and others. He is a much better shooter and thats why I think people like him right now, its easier to see Price go 2-5, then Hart 2-7.
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Post#15 » by LjJazzman » Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:25 pm

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I think you may be right, they might be giving Mcleod and Palacio a run for their money.


Keith is WAY better than either of them.
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Post#16 » by The Sheik » Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:50 pm

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Keith is WAY better than either of them.


I started feeling that way about a month ago. I think most people (myself included) hated him because Jerry played him over Deron and even played him and Deron in the same backcourt. I think under these circumstances (just being a 10-15 minute a night backup) he would probably do a good job.
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Post#17 » by jazzfan1971 » Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:33 pm

Would we be better with Dee Brown?
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Post#18 » by Jazzfan Bayamon » Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:35 pm

The Sheik wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



I started feeling that way about a month ago. I think most people (myself included) hated him because Jerry played him over Deron and even played him and Deron in the same backcourt. I think under these circumstances (just being a 10-15 minute a night backup) he would probably do a good job.


No, I hate him (McDog) because he sucks balls, and in top of that, we had to stand the supid postings of Coach/Dew07 that is most ridiculous, idiotic, moron [_whatever adjetive for stupid you can think of__] poster you can think of about how Bricky McDog was so much better than everyone else in the NBA.

In terms of game, I think he is at best = Hart, and < Price

However not having Dew07/Coach as a poster here >>>>>>>>>>> any good Keith McLeod could have ever done.
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Post#19 » by The Sheik » Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:41 pm

jazzfan1971 wrote:Would we be better with Dee Brown?


I dont think any of us could answer that, but I think we wouldnt have had earlier struggles with Dee (someone who knows the offense). He is about as consistent a shooter as Hart though, so again Im not really sure. It seems like he is doing really well in Turkey, perhaps its builds his confidence enough to where he can get back in the league and the Jazz give him another shot. I really think either Dee or Price couldnt be any worse then Hart.
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Post#20 » by Jazzfan Bayamon » Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:49 pm

jazzfan1971 wrote:Would we be better with Dee Brown?


I think chemistry wise yes 200%. And to be honest, I don't know how he could have been any worse than what Hart has been. To be honest, Hart's playing better lately, in terms of energy and D, but his offense is HORRIBLE, in all ways. Bad passer, shooter, decision maker (maybe better than Price, but those qtr endings kill any edge he might have in that). I don't think Dee would be that much worse and with his experience with the team and crew, not to mention his ties to Deron, the PG situation IMO would be better with Dee. Price was a nice pickup, but Hart, I mean, WTF??? I think the FO were intended of getting a "vet" at PG to replace Fisher, and I think Hart's late season play as starter for the Clipps last year fooled the FO into signing him quickly, thinking it was a steal. Price obviously has talent and ability and was a good pickup, so IMO it is between Dee and Hart, and I can't really think that Hart is that much better as a player, and Dee's chemistry with the team and DWill > anything Hart could be better than Dee at.
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