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Posted This Idea on the Nets Board..............
Posted: Wed Apr 9, 2008 10:07 pm
by vincecarter4pres
Was wondering what Utah fans think?
I would guess it would depend on how you guys do in the playoffs this year as well......
http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic. ... 8#16056568
Posted: Wed Apr 9, 2008 10:10 pm
by loserX
Valuewise it's tough to argue...we're not really giving up a whole lot. But it would also depend on Miller's willingness to pay the luxury tax; we have some young guys due for big extensions soon and we're giving up all our shortest contracts here. It may just be too expensive, especially since we have some much cheaper (though admittedly less proven) options at the 2.
Posted: Wed Apr 9, 2008 10:36 pm
by carrottop12
Jazz would be way over the luxury tax, and would then have Brewer, Miles, Korver, AK, Harpring, Almond and Jefferson at the 2/3 spot. Thats more then half the roster for 2 positions which are the easiest to fill in the league.
No thanks.
Posted: Wed Apr 9, 2008 10:38 pm
by bleu
Nah. I just don't think that RJ would fit in Utah very well.
Posted: Wed Apr 9, 2008 10:42 pm
by vincecarter4pres
I am honestly not trying that hard to trade RJ or argue with anyone.
I posted this just to get your opinions, not to argue them or influence them, but man.
Your starting lineup would be absurd.
PG Williams
SG RJ
SF AK47
PF Boozer
C Okur
It would be like a track meet, plus improve your half court, and it wouldn't effect your defense or rebounding, probrably make it vastly better.
Posted: Wed Apr 9, 2008 10:46 pm
by CAE15
vincecarter4pres wrote:I am honestly not trying that hard to trade RJ or argue with anyone.
I posted this just to get your opinions, not to argue them or influence them, but man.
Your starting lineup would be absurd.
PG Williams
SG RJ
SF AK47
PF Boozer
C Okur
It would be like a track meet, plus improve your half court, and it wouldn't effect your defense or rebounding, probrably make it vastly better.
While that team would be incredible in a run and gun offense thats not how the jazz work. RJ isn't really a good fit for stacked utah team. If the Jazz had less scoring options then RJ could fit.
Posted: Wed Apr 9, 2008 10:46 pm
by carrottop12
RJ is great and I think he would be loved here in Utah. But in that starting 5 you have are already over the salary cap. Won't work.
Posted: Wed Apr 9, 2008 11:00 pm
by BiggMann
Now if we turned around and somehow got a defensive big for AK, then we may have something.
Posted: Wed Apr 9, 2008 11:02 pm
by Duiz
I saw Jarron Collins, Jason Hart, and Matt Harpring in the trade and I was almost having a wet dream... but then saw RJ's and Swiift's contract and that makes it impossible to sign Deron and say under the cap. Much less Milsap and Brewer who have contracts coming up. Then after that comes Boozers and Okurs renewal.
RJ for DW... not worth it.
Posted: Wed Apr 9, 2008 11:05 pm
by The Sheik
BiggMann wrote:Now if we turned around and somehow got a defensive big for AK, then we may have something.
problem is there is no such thing.
Duncan, Camby, KG....thats it.
Jazz need to move AK for expirings, depth and other reusable assets such as picks or future expirings.
Plus any impact big would cost money and that doesnt help our logjam salary wise. People might not be happy with not moving AK for another big name, but we have to.
Posted: Wed Apr 9, 2008 11:35 pm
by bleu
The biggest problem here is $$,$$$,$$$.
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:08 am
by jazzfan1971
If I'm the GM I say Hell yeah, where do I sign?
Then I start worrying about making it all work financially.
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:37 am
by hoops4life
I think that would be nice. We give up a bunch of spare parts.
My only concerns are:
2 1st rounders (we are young and developing a bunch of guys so not a big worry)
We would be terriblely thin at the Center spot
How would we work in playing time for Ak, Brewer, RJ, and Korver all at the three? How would the minutes break down?
How would we afford to extend Deron, Sap, and Brewer?
Other that than... let's do it!
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:40 am
by JStockLivesOn
That's an extremely generous trade on New Jersey's part, value wise, but when you get down into the weeds, it isn't practical for us, given how overloaded we'd be at the swing position and our salary cap concerns.
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 7:31 pm
by Neon Black
The only way to make that work would be to give up AK. And frankly, unless he proves me wrong with amazing passion and all-star play, I'm all for it.
We NEED cap space to resign some of our guys who actually care, night in and night out.
Plus we're overloaded at the 2-3 spots with a rising Brewer and Miles, both of which I believe deserve ample playing time.
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 8:57 pm
by jazzfan1980
I'd rather pull off some sort of trade to pry Diop away from them. We have too many 2-3's we need more defensive bigs.