Jerry Sloan and the Jazz are Sisyphus

[dalekjazz]

Sisyphus was a king in Greek mythology cursed throughout eternity to roll a huge boulder over a hill only to watch it roll down again. I have been a Jazz fan for over 20 years when Frank Layden was coach. The Jazz on the most part have always put out a competitive team which has come close but always had its hearts broken every year, never winning the championship along the way finding agonizing ways to lose in the playoffs. Its frustrating.

[carrottop12]

Can't get the best players in the draft, can't win it all.

Look at the past champions and how they won it all.

Spurs: Won the #1 pick with Duncan, have won 4 rings in last 10 years.

Lakers: Had Shaq, #1 pick, won 3 championships in the last 10 years.

Miami: Had Shaq, the #1 pick and D-Wade the #5 pick.

Bulls: Had Jordan, the #3 pick.

Rockets: Had Hakeem, the #1 pick.

Lets just say if you aren't winning the lottery, or getting good players consistently in the lottery you aren't winning rings, and currently, the Jazz ain't winning any rings.

Deron is the #3 pick, and he's only 3 years into his career so that is promising, but having only 1 real lottery pick on your team is a tough situation.

[eagles nut]

Slightly different with the Lakers though because Shaq wasn't their own draft pick. They signed him in free agency.

Utah doesn't have big market appeal(and big marketing opportunities) like L.A. does for prospective free agents though.

It's unfortunate for Jazz fans though because they're always going to be at a relative disadvantage for signing free agents and keeping they're own. It's a smaller market with a conservative population that may not prove attractive to primarily African-American NBA players.

[loserX]

I think Tantalus would be a better metaphor, but I like the mythological allusion

[Heir]

Can't get the best players in the draft, can't win it all.

Look at the past champions and how they won it all.

Spurs: Won the #1 pick with Duncan, have won 4 rings in last 10 years.

Lakers: Had Shaq, #1 pick, won 3 championships in the last 10 years.

Miami: Had Shaq, the #1 pick and D-Wade the #5 pick.

Bulls: Had Jordan, the #3 pick.

Rockets: Had Hakeem, the #1 pick.

Lets just say if you aren't winning the lottery, or getting good players consistently in the lottery you aren't winning rings, and currently, the Jazz ain't winning any rings.

Deron is the #3 pick, and he's only 3 years into his career so that is promising, but having only 1 real lottery pick on your team is a tough situation.

When did the Lakers have a #1 pick? The Hornets drafted Kobe and traded him to the Lakers for Divac, remember?

[LA Warrior]

Sisyphus was a king in Greek mythology

Aren't u guys Mormon?

[GP]

Slightly different with the Lakers though because Shaq wasn't their own draft pick. They signed him in free agency.

Utah doesn't have big market appeal(and big marketing opportunities) like L.A. does for prospective free agents though.

It's unfortunate for Jazz fans though because they're always going to be at a relative disadvantage for signing free agents and keeping they're own. It's a smaller market with a conservative population that may not prove attractive to primarily African-American NBA players.

Very much agree with this point.

[Rerisen]

Only one team gets the boulder to the top of the mountain each year. There are many teams that push it up a lot less far than the Jazz.

[Reckless]

yeh some draft failures stand out to me

2004 we had two pretty high picks for the jazz at #14 and #16
neither player with us today..that is horrible

and you think back from 1999-2004 no current jazz members from those years..How many other teams can say that? None of the other contenders can say that.
Spurs got Parker & Manu those years with late picks
Suns got Stoudemire in the lottery
Lakers got Vujacic with a late pick
Hornets got West with a late pick
Pistons got Prince with a late pick
Cavs got Lebron in the lottery
Celtics got Jefferson who as you know they traded for KG

think about it we have nothing to show today while all these other contending teams do...we really hurt our future during these years

add to that the FA issue we have and you wonder how we can field a decent team.

[carrottop12]

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When did the Lakers have a #1 pick? The Hornets drafted Kobe and traded him to the Lakers for Divac, remember?

Tell me, did I ever say the Lakers made the #1 pick? All I said is they had a player who was the #1 pick in the draft, and that was Shaq. That is the only reason they won those rings.

You're the worst poster on Realgm.

[JDubJazz]

Aren't u guys Mormon?

Good grief! Get lost troll.

[Heir]

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Tell me, did I ever say the Lakers made the #1 pick? All I said is they had a player who was the #1 pick in the draft, and that was Shaq. That is the only reason they won those rings.

You're the worst poster on Realgm.

They signed him via free agency, so how does that make a difference? Of course people want to play in Los Angeles. Have you ever heard an athlete in ANY SPORT say "I'm so excited about playing in Utah!"?

Yeah right.

[Heir]

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Aren't u guys Mormon?

I'm gonna jock that sig. Just wanted to let you know.

[schneiderjazz]

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They signed him via free agency, so how does that make a difference? Of course people want to play in Los Angeles. Have you ever heard an athlete in ANY SPORT say "I'm so excited about playing in Utah!"?

Yeah right.

Be honest, man. You wanna be a Jazz fan, right? You spend more time here than on the Lakers board. Out of your 100 posts, more than half of them are on this board. Stop lying to yourself.

[Heir]

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Be honest, man. You wanna be a Jazz fan, right? You spend more time here than on the Lakers board. Out of your 100 posts, more than half of them are on this board. Stop lying to yourself.

Like I've said before, I post on CL. I don't go to the Laker board on RealGm because it's lame to me. I only come here for news and to read the views of non Laker fans.

[HammerDunk]

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Aren't u guys Mormon?

Ain't you edumecated? It's called book learning. A persons religion doesn't stop them from learning about other religions.

Don't worry guys, we'll get there someday. I, for one, think the Jazz will win it all some time, hopefully before I die.

[shrink]

Best Subject Heading of the Year Nominee.

[WadeKnicks2010]

You built your team just fine. You can't control never lucking out on an elite talent(until Deron Williams). You're also in a small market thus you get no officiating love and you're in a location that's hard to draw free agents in.