What if Boozer walks?

Getjazz · Post #1 » by **Getjazz** » Fri May 23, 2008 3:41 am

The Jazz are in a tough position with Boozer and his ability to just walk away with no compensation in return for the Jazz. So do the Jazz get what they can now, or let it ride and see what happens. I feel that if its possible to get the second pick (Beasley)from Miami and maybe pick (Blount)up a bad contract in return for Boozer and the NY 2010 pick would be the way to go. The Jazz would get the back up C they need and a young stud to grow with DWill. What do you think?

CAE15 · Post #2 » by **CAE15** » Fri May 23, 2008 3:59 am

how the hell is blount the backup center we need? Now we have to give up our potential top 3 pick just to get beasley? no thanks. If Utah is not planning on giving Boozer a max deal they need to trade him. Because he will get MAX dollars somewhere else.

Getjazz · Post #3 » by **Getjazz** » Fri May 23, 2008 4:23 am

Beasley has a higher ceiling than Boozer and Miami would want more than just Boozer for the pick.

enIIgma_chan · Post #4 » by **enIIgma_chan** » Fri May 23, 2008 4:36 am

New Jazzy Nets wrote:how the hell is blount the backup center we need? Now we have to give up our potential top 3 pick just to get beasley? no thanks. If Utah is not planning on giving Boozer a max deal they need to trade him. Because he will get MAX dollars somewhere else.

Top 3 pick? You sure about that? Surely, the Knicks will improve next season 'cuz they have a new coach to boot and the future pick will probably become top 15 pick.

I'd do it, trade Boozer for the number 2 pick and draft Beasley. :nod:

enIIgma_chan · Post #5 » by **enIIgma_chan** » Fri May 23, 2008 4:38 am

Oops... double post ^^; gomen ne

Post #6 » by **DelaneyRudd** » Fri May 23, 2008 6:08 am

The Bulls need Beasley. The Jazz do not need Rose. There will be plenty of discussion between Rookie hating Riley and the Jazz, but it will all be moot when the Bulls take the best player available.

The Sheik · Post #7 » by **The Sheik** » Fri May 23, 2008 7:12 am

This is why Millsap will be resigned reagardless if we have to pay luxury tax for a yr.

Boozer isnt stupid, he has probably figured it out by now that D-Will makes him who he is. If Boozer ever wants to be an all star again he will stay in Utah.

No team will be stupid enough to trade a top 5 pick for Boozer. If they were willing to give us Boozer for Beasley and salary matches then the jokes on them.

If Boozer leaves the Millsap Era begins.

Post #8 » by **DelaneyRudd** » Fri May 23, 2008 7:18 am

El Paso? I didn't know that. I have always wanted to go to El Paso.

Pappyman · Post #9 » by **Pappyman** » Fri May 23, 2008 8:32 am

The Sheik wrote:This is why Millsap will be resigned reagardless if we have to pay luxury tax for a yr.

Boozer isnt stupid, he has probably figured it out by now that D-Will makes him who he is. If Boozer ever wants to be an all star again he will stay in Utah.

No team will be stupid enough to trade a top 5 pick for Boozer. If they were willing to give us Boozer for Beasley and salary matches then the jokes on them.

If Boozer leaves the Millsap Era begins.

You do not know that. Miami has expressed interest in Boozer and trust me, he would be just as good playing with Dwayne Wade as he would with Deron Williams. He was a really good player when he was with Cleveland and he would still be a really good player if he was to be moved to Miami. Plus, Michael Beasley would be much better for the Jazz because he is taller, more althetic, and younger than Boozer. He also has shown an ability, at least in college, to dominate games. He would be a much better defender because of his athleticism. Also, the Jazz probably would not have to trade their NY pick. It would probably be this year's first round pick (#23) and Boozer for Mark Blount and the #2 pick (Michael Beasley). I really cannot see Chicago passing on Derrick Rose. Look at how good the Bulls potential starting line up would be:
PG: Derrick Rose
SG: Ben Gordon
SF: Luol Deng
PF: Tyrus Thomas
C: Joakim Noah

Also, if Miami re-signs Shawn Marion, they would have a legitimate "big 3" players that would all be in their prime with Boozer, Marion, and Wade (nickname: BMW? Anything?). Plus there are other rumors that if and when the Bulls draft Derrick Rose that a potential home for their current point guard Kirk Hinrich would be Miami. He would be perfect next to D-Wade because his outside shooting ability would really complement Wade's driving and finishing ability. All they would have to find is a center (Maybe DeSagana Diop from New Jersey? He would be really good next to Boozer because he is a good defender and shot-blocker. His inability on offense would be covered because Miami's other starters would provide enough offense). This would be the Heat's starting line up:
PG: Kirk Hinrich
SG: Dwayne Wade
SF: Shawn Marion
PF: Carlos Boozer
C: DeSagana Diop

Also, I really think that the Jazz should trade Kirilenko for Redd. This would be the Jazz's starting line up if they did (including everything above):
PG: Deron Williams
SG: Michael Redd
SF: Ronnie Brewer
PF: Michael Beasley
C: Mehmet Okur

There. I am done.

GP · Post #10 » by GP » Fri May 23, 2008 8:43 am

The Sheik wrote:
If Boozer leaves the Millsap Era begins.

This Era would also be known as the "never make it out of the first round of the playoffs era".

CAE15 · Post #11 » by **CAE15** » Fri May 23, 2008 8:54 am

GP will forever be known as the Millsap hater.

carrottop12 · Post #12 » by **carrottop12** » Fri May 23, 2008 11:31 am

The Jazz are in a tough situation, and forgive me for simply not trusting Boozer when it comes time for making contracts.

In all honestly, with what Riley has already said in the papers and the fact that Boozer can get more elsewhere, and seeing that he could move to the place he calls home in the offseason and automatically become the best PF in the East I think it would be ignorant for the Jazz to think that he won't be leaving.

Don't make the same mistake Orlando did by not trading Shaq when they had the opportunity, move Boozer and at least get something for him.

kerplunk · Post #13 » by **kerplunk** » Fri May 23, 2008 12:49 pm

Sloan will never start a rookie.

gojazzmjsucks · Post #14 » by **gojazzmjsucks** » Fri May 23, 2008 3:06 pm

hopefully Booz doesn't do the shake and good bye like he did for the Cavs!

BiggMann · Post #15 » by **BiggMann** » Fri May 23, 2008 5:37 pm

I liked your post Pappyman up until that AK for Redd deal. NO WAY!! especially if we trade Boozer!!

I would be willing to part ways with the NYK 2010 pick if it got us Beasley.

Boozer
NYK 1st unprotected in 2010
4
Blount
Banks
#2 pick
and future 1st.

Leaves our line up looking like this

Deron/Price/Banks/Hart (hopefully released)
Brewer/ CJ/ Almond
AK/Korver/Harpring
Milsap/Beasley
Okur/Hibbert/Fess/Collins (see Hart)

That's a 16 man roster so I have to say that Collins and Hart must go, and with Boozers contract off the our books we are able to resign Deron, Brew, Milsap, AND CJ.

Ming Kong! · Post #16 » by **Ming Kong!** » Fri May 23, 2008 6:46 pm

You guys are nuts.

Boozer and a potentially top 5 pick for Beasley and a bad contract?

Boozer = All-NBA 3rd team, 2 time NBA All-Star, 21ppg/11rpg 55%FG
Millsap is the best back up PF in the league, and could certainly start for about 15-20 teams in the league.

We have depth at PF, we don't need to take a chance at a potential stud. Besides, I don't know if I like Beasley's character. Boozer sucked for the last 60 days of the season, but he's been awesome the past two years. Lets not forget so soon..

On top of that we will be trading a top 5 pick? What if a great defensive center is available in 2010. That's just 24 months away!

Keep Boozer unless we can get an Igoudala or Josh Smith in return, and that aint gonna happen.

BiggMann · Post #17 » by **BiggMann** » Fri May 23, 2008 7:20 pm

Ming, do you really think Boozer will stick around if Miami offers him a fat contract? Thats where he lives, he's got a multimillion dollar mansion out there.. his family stays there. To me it just makes sense for him PERSONALLY, we all know what Boozer did to Cleveland and the reason he did that is because it was better for him at that time.

Beasley has potential to be a 20-10 guy in two seasons... give him some back up minutes his rookie season, and he'll start after that. Milsap is the man, but Beasley is on a completely different level.

Trust me Ming i watched every single dribble this season so i know what Boozer brings to the table, and I know how good we are WITHOUT him... which is why i could see us dealing him. right now he has the most value on team (besides Deron the untouchable) and it's no guarantee that Knicks pick will be a top five pick... they've got enough talent to make the postseason in the east in the next two seasons.... especially if D'Antoni can whip them into shape.

Miami has TONS of room to operate right now, they can sign Diop and/or Hinrich... so if they make the trade or not they'll be good, which is why Utah would need to add that Pick.

Ming Kong! · Post #18 » by **Ming Kong!** » Fri May 23, 2008 8:14 pm

BiggMann wrote:Ming, do you really think Boozer will stick around if Miami offers him a fat contract? Thats where he lives, he's got a multimillion dollar mansion out there.. his family stays there. To me it just makes sense for him PERSONALLY, we all know what Boozer did to Cleveland and the reason he did that is because it was better for him at that time.

Beasley has potential to be a 20-10 guy in two seasons... give him some back up minutes his rookie season, and he'll start after that. Milsap is the man, but Beasley is on a completely different level.

Trust me Ming i watched every single dribble this season so i know what Boozer brings to the table, and I know how good we are WITHOUT him... which is why i could see us dealing him. right now he has the most value on team (besides Deron the untouchable) and it's no guarantee that Knicks pick will be a top five pick... they've got enough talent to make the postseason in the east in the next two seasons.... especially if D'Antoni can whip them into shape.

Miami has TONS of room to operate right now, they can sign Diop and/or Hinrich... so if they make the trade or not they'll be good, which is why Utah would need to add that Pick.

If we get a short term big contract I have no problem. Also unless we're getting a far better defensive big in Beasley I'm not so sure I'm interested in him, given that he can't be THAT much better than Boozer, who has probably the best left in the game.

sportsaddict99 · Post #19 » by **sportsaddict99** » Fri May 23, 2008 8:48 pm

If there is any way we can hold off trading Boozer so we can get the top pick next year, we could get Blake Griffin from OU. He would fit great in our system and would thrive with Deron

hoops4life · Post #20 » by **hoops4life** » Fri May 23, 2008 9:56 pm

I guess it really depends on what you think boozer's intentions are. I find it kind of ironic, the situation that is...

If you think that he is going to bolt to Miami, sure you do all you can to trade him and get some value.

If you think he will resign, no problem then.