w/ the 23rd Pick of the 2008 NBA Draft the Utah Jazz select?

Da110n0rcutt · Post #1 » by **Da110n0rcutt** » Sun Jun 8, 2008 10:21 pm

Centers

Roy Hibbert C
21 years old; 7'2"; 272 lbs.
Georgetown, Senior

Nathan Jawai C
21 years old; 6'10"; 282 lbs.
Cairns Taipans, International

Small Forwards

Donte Greene SF
20 years old, 6' 10" 220lbs.
Syracuse

Bill Walker SF
20 years old, 6' 6" 225lbs.
Kansas State

Point Guards

Mario Chalmers PG
22 years old, 6' 1" 190lbs.
Kansas

Lester Hudson PG/SG
23 years old, 6' 3" 190lbs.
Tenn. Martin

WHAT POSITION DO THEY FILL FIRST AND WHO IS IT REALLY THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE AT THIS POSITION IN THE DRAFT?

fivas14 · Post #2 » by **fivas14** » Sun Jun 8, 2008 10:55 pm

They'll pick the best player available and if Donte Greene is available, he'll be the newest memeber of the Utah Jazz.

The Jazz would have a top 2 bench in teh NBA.

PG-Price
SG-Almond/Korver
SF-Harpring/Miles/Greene
PF-Milsap/Greene
C-Fes/Collins/2nd round pick(if not a euro)

Greene can play PF and SF..I don't think he'll be available at 23 though especially with teams like Denver picking ahead of us.

Hibbert
McGee
Lopez

would probably be options 2,3, and 4.

fivas14 · Post #3 » by **fivas14** » Sun Jun 8, 2008 10:56 pm

Chase Buddinger could also be available there also same with Chris Douglas-Roberts

GP · Post #4 » by GP » Sun Jun 8, 2008 11:46 pm

I agree the jazz go with the best player available, however, they will also try and draft a 7ft center. If hibbert is there, they will draft him. Also, I wouldn't be too shocked to see the jazz trade the pick and player (s) to try and move up.

nghedman · Post #5 » by **nghedman** » Mon Jun 9, 2008 2:21 am

1st priority: best player
2nd: already has a contract with someone else
3rd: defensive center
4th: backup PG
5th: SF (Harpring is the oldest on the team, and AK...who knows what will happen)
6th: taller PF - milsap and boozers weaknesses are playing taller opponents

carrottop12 · Post #6 » by **carrottop12** » Mon Jun 9, 2008 6:17 am

Roy, it's gotta be Roy.

His size will benefit the Jazz great, will push Fes, and will eliminate the world of Jarron Collins.

Post #7 » by **JStockLivesOn** » Mon Jun 9, 2008 8:30 am

Batronuj wrote:Roy, it's gotta be Roy.

His size will benefit the Jazz great, will push Fes, and will eliminate the world of Jarron Collins.

Hard to argue with that, though I do have some affection for Chalmers' game too. Whether we bring a FA in for the minimum or not, we need a third competent PG on the roster, and I think Mario would qualify.

But then again, can we really turn down an opportunity to make Jarron Collins irrelevant?

Choices, choices...

Pai Gow · Post #8 » by **Pai Gow** » Mon Jun 9, 2008 10:27 am

Trade it.

GP · Post #9 » by GP » Mon Jun 9, 2008 11:34 am

JStockLivesOn wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Hard to argue with that, though I do have some affection for Chalmers' game too. Whether we bring a FA in for the minimum or not, we need a third competent PG on the roster, and I think Mario would qualify.

But then again, can we really turn down an opportunity to make Jarron Collins irrelevant?

Choices, choices...

Sorry, but why do we need another pg? DW averaged 37 MPG in the reg season, that leaves 9 MPG split between Price and Hart. So the pg we either draft or FA signing would get an average of 4.5MPG? We already have Hart, he sucks, but he would only have to play at the MOST 5 min every 5 games as the 3rd string PG. Now if Hart was traded, then its possible, but as long as hart and price are on the (already crowded) roster, it wouldn't make sense to draft a pg with the teams only pick in the 1st round.

Post #10 » by **JStockLivesOn** » Mon Jun 9, 2008 11:35 am

AKsWill wrote:Trade it.

For a future 1st or as part of a player package?

Post #11 » by **JStockLivesOn** » Mon Jun 9, 2008 11:39 am

GP wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Sorry, but why do we need another pg? DW averaged 37 MPG in the reg season, that leaves 9 MPG split between Price and Hart. So the pg we either draft or FA signing would get an average of 4.5MPG? We already have Hart, he sucks, but he would only have to play at the MOST 5 min every 5 games as the 3rd string PG. Now if Hart was traded, then its possible, but as long as hart and price are on the (already crowded) roster, it wouldn't make sense to draft a pg with the teams only pick in the 1st round.

Because I don't count Hart as our third PG. If Deron and Price were both unavailable, I would start AK at PG.

The Sheik · Post #12 » by **The Sheik** » Mon Jun 9, 2008 4:12 pm

Of what you put up there it has to be Roy, but these are really poor choices.

Jazz wont take Jawai in the first round...no way in hell.

C:

Hibbert
Lopez
Thompson

I think thats the consensus top 3.

PG:

Lawson
Chalmers

Hudson wont be drafted with the 23 pick.

Pai Gow · Post #13 » by **Pai Gow** » Mon Jun 9, 2008 6:52 pm

JStockLivesOn wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

For a future 1st or as part of a player package?

A Player package would be ideal, pair the pick with Almond (assuming that we have a resigned CJ) and I'm sure we could get a nice expiring-contract player who can help us now in return. I think we're young enough and what we need is veterans to help with the consistency of the team.

carrottop12 · Post #14 » by **carrottop12** » Mon Jun 9, 2008 6:53 pm

If the Jazz trade the pick, I hope they trade it with a player to get something back, or to move up in the draft.

I don't want to trade for the future, the Jazz don't need to start collecting future first rounders unless they are like the Knicks 2010 pick.

Post #15 » by **JStockLivesOn** » Mon Jun 9, 2008 7:46 pm

Yeah, I'd agree with both of you on that. What kind of player would we be going after? Even with Almond gone, we're still very strong at the swing position. Though part of me wants to hold on to him since Harp only has 2 years left in him probably.

I presume we'd be going after a frontcourt player or a back-up PG. If it's the former, it should be someone you know can produce (whatever his specialty is), or we might as well just keep our pick and draft Hibbert. Likewise on a back-up PG deal; if we're going to be getting another Jason Hart back, we may as well just draft Chalmers.

Lava Rock Kid · Post #16 » by **Lava Rock Kid** » Mon Jun 9, 2008 8:40 pm

I think the Jazz either trade it for a future 1st,

or

They draft a kid overseas that will stay their a couple of years like when they drafted Raul Lopez instead of Tony Parker.

The Sheik · Post #17 » by **The Sheik** » Mon Jun 9, 2008 9:05 pm

^^^^

I disagree.

The Jazz are built to win now(not as bad as teams like Dallas, PHX and SA) but we dont want to draft maybes or somedays in the first round.

I think AK wont be traded and this will be the teams(as currently built) last hooray. So its important to add a missing piece through the draft because we cant do it through FA.

The Jazz are looking for 3-4 yr college players with a winning pedigree or a competitive niche. Thats why I believe the Jazz top 3(guessing on availability) are Hibbert, Chalmers and Thompson. They might take a run at Robin Lopez if he is there, but I think thats about as young as they will get. They are looking for a guy that can play now or can takeover at the backup C after next season. Its easier for big man(that are experienced) to play right away. The Jazz are gonna look for a guy that can except a role and go do it(ala Milsap).

As far as trading I see them do one of two scenarios.

1) Trade the pick(or Almond), Collins and Hart for Jeff Foster. At this point they can draft the best available player, perhaps look at CDR, Brandon Rush, Chalmers, Lawson and the aforementioned bigs.

2) Trade down to the 31-35 range(with other compensations) and draft a player with no guaranteed contract. Or sign them to something that will save the Jazz about 500,000 a yr. We can perhaps get Thompson, Hardin and Chalmers at this range.

Unless the Jazz trade Almond or trade for a big the pick will be a big man and Im about 90% sure on that.

1. Hibbert
2. Thompson
3. Lopez
4. Hardin
5. Koufos

Post #18 » by **JStockLivesOn** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:13 am

Is Indy looking for expirings? I'd do that deal for Foster in a second.

Reckless · Post #19 » by **Reckless** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:31 am

Jazz don't surprise on draft day, we always try to fill a need, backup center is the obvious need

why i'm surprised you didn't include Lopez in the poll choice

or the option that we will trade the pick(thinking that Lopez and Hibbert will be off the board)

so we are pretty much forced to choose Hibbert with the choices you given us

The Sheik · Post #20 » by **The Sheik** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 3:08 pm

JStockLivesOn wrote:Is Indy looking for expirings? I'd do that deal for Foster in a second.

Well Foster is also expiring, so the deal is win win IMO. The "sugar on top" either way I think is fair enough value for Foster. I dont like giving up a 1st rd pick for him, but he is one of the best offensive rebounding bigs in the league. Bird has a hummer for Almond, if we make this deal he will be involved somehow.

The downside to this trade is that he has a yr left and then after that he will command near full MLE money. Where as someone we drafted would be under contract for 4yrs at 1.2 mil per.