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Paul gets a 3 year, with a fourth year player option for a total of 68 million dollars. Roughly 17 mil a year.

Expect Deron to sign the exact same contract.

I think Deron will sign for max years and max dollars. The only upside to signing for less seasons is that you can bail on the team if things go south. I don't think that is much of a concern here, as the Jazz have laid a solid foundation for the future, and Deron will want to send a message that he is committed to the organization.

Why would you expect him to sign whatever Paul signs?

erudite23 wrote:I think Deron will sign for max years and max dollars. The only upside to signing for less seasons is that you can bail on the team if things go south. I don't think that is much of a concern here, as the Jazz have laid a solid foundation for the future, and Deron will want to send a message that he is committed to the organization.

Why would you expect him to sign whatever Paul signs?

Well, for one thing it's the max offer, and Deron is getting the max obviously.

Second, same reason Paul did, if this team sucks 3 years from now why not go to a contender.

If you don't think Deron sees the fact that Sloan will be gone three years from now, and both Boozer and Memo are going to be FA's by that time, and the fact that LHM might not be the team owner by then either... seems to me that there is a ton of potential turmoil in those dealings.

Why not sign for 3 years with a possibility of a fourth for nearly 70 mil knowing that if something did happen, you have plenty of money for your future. And if it at that point something happens and the Jazz aren't legit, go to a better place.

Deron wants to win, he's not just about the money. If he isn't winning 4 years from now, he can leave and have his 70 million dollars. Makes sense to me.

A bit off-topic, but -- interesting comments by Arenas regarding his new deal:

Gilbert Arenas has agreed to take less money to remain a member of the Washington Wizards, but he still will be far above comfortable on the financial front, the Associated Press is reporting.

"What can I do for my family with $127 million that I can't do with $111 million?" he told The Washington Post.

Arenas told the Post and the Washington Times on Thursday that he has agreed to re-sign for $111 million over six years, considerably less than the maximum deal he said the Wizards offered him when the free agency period began on Tuesday.

"I'm basically giving back $16 million," Arenas said. "This is in line with what I've been saying the whole time. You see players take max deals and they financially bind their teams. I don't wanna be one of those players and three years down the road your team is strapped and can't do anything about it."

First off, this is the exact conversation I always have with my friends. At a certain point, is there really much difference between 100 million dollars and 75 million dollars?

So, I applaud Arenas for taking less money and his reasoning behind it. That's cool. BUT... if you stop and think about it, he's saved his team -- what -- 2.6 million dollars per year? That's not chump change, but it's not like that money will land them a huge name or anything.

I guess the bottom line is: cool that he did it, but he doesn't deserve quite as much praise as he's looking to have heaped upon him.

Basically his team can now afford to add Jason Hart to the roster with all that money he's saving them.

You're a saint Gilbert.

erudite23 wrote:I think Deron will sign for max years and max dollars. The only upside to signing for less seasons is that you can bail on the team if things go south. I don't think that is much of a concern here, as the Jazz have laid a solid foundation for the future, and Deron will want to send a message that he is committed to the organization.

Sorry man, but that just reeks of homerism. Deron wants to send a message that he's commited to the organization? How about.... oh I don't know, SIGNING? Paul has signed already, and we heard he was going to days ago. We haven't heard a peep from Deron. This would worry me tremendously as a Jazz fan. I agree with the OP, Deron signs the same deal Chris Paul did (and Lebron and Bosh and Wade did before him)

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Sorry man, but that just reeks of homerism. Deron wants to send a message that he's commited to the organization? How about.... oh I don't know, SIGNING? Paul has signed already, and we heard he was going to days ago. We haven't heard a peep from Deron. This would worry me tremendously as a Jazz fan. I agree with the OP, Deron signs the same deal Chris Paul did (and Lebron and Bosh and Wade did before him)[/quote]


Well you are not much of a Jazz fan are you then. If you where then you would know that Deron is on vacation with his family right now and when he returns he plans on finalizing the extension with the Jazz. I hope that Deron signs for the max time and money but I think he maybe signs a 3 or 4 year deal with a player option extra year making it 4 to 5 if he chooses.

LOL at the idea that we should be worried about him signing an extension. I don't necessarily agree with E that he'll sign for max years out of total confidence in the organization, but anyone who thinks there's even the dimmest chance that he won't be with the Jazz at least through his second contract has been partaking in some high-quality peyote.

Yeah, Deron is signing the extension, there is no doubt about that.

It's the length that matters...

Thats what she said.

Batronuj wrote:http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AlCYzaneH_JIxqzTU_FcUu68vLYF?slug=ap-hornets-paul&prov=ap&type=lgns

Paul gets a 3 year, with a fourth year player option for a total of 68 million dollars. Roughly 17 mil a year.

Expect Deron to sign the exact same contract.

+1. I would expect deron to sign a similar contract, because it offers him great flexibility. If your current team is going in a direction that you don't like you can leave. DW is currently 24yrs old, by the end of a paul like contract he will be 27yrs old and still very much at his peak, lets say the jazz are headed in the wrong direction, this way he can leave. If everything is good he can sign a new contract for the max.

erudite23 wrote:I think Deron will sign for max years and max dollars. The only upside to signing for less seasons is that you can bail on the team if things go south. I don't think that is much of a concern here, as the Jazz have laid a solid foundation for the future, and Deron will want to send a message that he is committed to the organization.

Why would you expect him to sign whatever Paul signs?

The ability to leave isn't the only benefit to signing a 3 year deal. 7 year veteran's max contracts can start at 30% of the cap, instead of the 25% up to that point. Unless the salary cap explodes upward, any player who is reasonably sure that he'll be worth a max contract in his 8th season is wise to take only 3 years after his rookie contract is up.

It's a shame the Jazz didn't ink AK to a 3 year deal.

Batronuj wrote:It's a shame the Jazz didn't ink AK to a 3 year deal.

Those are the wisest words I have read, yet.

Bonzi wrote:

erudite23 wrote:I think Deron will sign for max years and max dollars. The only upside to signing for less seasons is that you can bail on the team if things go south. I don't think that is much of a concern here, as the Jazz have laid a solid foundation for the future, and Deron will want to send a message that he is committed to the organization.

Sorry man, but that just reeks of homerism. Deron wants to send a message that he's commited to the organization? How about.... oh I don't know, SIGNING? Paul has signed already, and we heard he was going to days ago. We haven't heard a peep from Deron. This would worry me tremendously as a Jazz fan. I agree with the OP, Deron signs the same deal Chris Paul did (and Lebron and Bosh and Wade did before him)

You must be one of those "Deron/Paul to Portland!!!" morons. If you knew one damn thing, you would realize that Deron finalizing his extension is a mere formality. Chris Paul supposedly "had nothing going" on the extension front, and then out of the blue they are reporting a new deal. I'm confused as to exactly what you are hoping to accomplish by coming into another forum and entering the fray in a conversation which you clearly have no information on or understanding of. GTFO.

erudite23 wrote:

Bonzi wrote:

erudite23 wrote:I think Deron will sign for max years and max dollars. The only upside to signing for less seasons is that you can bail on the team if things go south. I don't think that is much of a concern here, as the Jazz have laid a solid foundation for the future, and Deron will want to send a message that he is committed to the organization.

Sorry man, but that just reeks of homerism. Deron wants to send a message that he's commited to the organization? How about.... oh I don't know, SIGNING? Paul has signed already, and we heard he was going to days ago. We haven't heard a peep from Deron. This would worry me tremendously as a Jazz fan. I agree with the OP, Deron signs the same deal Chris Paul did (and Lebron and Bosh and Wade did before him)

You must be one of those "Deron/Paul to Portland!!!" morons. If you knew one damn thing, you would realize that Deron finalizing his extension is a mere formality. Chris Paul supposedly "had nothing going" on the extension front, and then out of the blue they are reporting a new deal. I'm confused as to exactly what you are hoping to accomplish by coming into another forum and entering the fray in a conversation which you clearly have no information on or understanding of. GTFO.

Yea he is, all of the Portland fans on the Portland board make a new thread each day on how they're getting Deron or Paul..lolz

I read through just one of their Deron threads and was laughing my ass off.

"Why would Deron re-sign with Utah when he could be on a title contender?"
"If our GM wants him, trust me -- he'll get him."
"He probably hates Utah. Why would anyone live there?"
"The Jazz are probably going to have to go into a mini-rebuild soon anyway."

These guys are awfully **** cocky for a team that, while it looks incredibly promising and should have a good season, hasn't done ANYTHING yet.

Their delusions are truly remarkable.

erudite23 wrote:

Bonzi wrote:

erudite23 wrote:I think Deron will sign for max years and max dollars. The only upside to signing for less seasons is that you can bail on the team if things go south. I don't think that is much of a concern here, as the Jazz have laid a solid foundation for the future, and Deron will want to send a message that he is committed to the organization.

Sorry man, but that just reeks of homerism. Deron wants to send a message that he's commited to the organization? How about.... oh I don't know, SIGNING? Paul has signed already, and we heard he was going to days ago. We haven't heard a peep from Deron. This would worry me tremendously as a Jazz fan. I agree with the OP, Deron signs the same deal Chris Paul did (and Lebron and Bosh and Wade did before him)

You must be one of those "Deron/Paul to Portland!!!" morons. If you knew one damn thing, you would realize that Deron finalizing his extension is a mere formality. Chris Paul supposedly "had nothing going" on the extension front, and then out of the blue they are reporting a new deal. I'm confused as to exactly what you are hoping to accomplish by coming into another forum and entering the fray in a conversation which you clearly have no information on or understanding of. GTFO.

What do you mean they had nothing going? The front office has always said that as soon as 7/1 arrived they would begin negotiating on Paul's contract. They began on 7/1 by phone. His agent flew in on 7/2 or 7/3 and on 7/3 it was a done deal. Nothing out of the blue. But it does indeed take a little time to get these things done.

And yeah, some Portland fans make me chuckle when they just expect Paul Allen to whip out his pen and buy any free agent he wants.

JStockLivesOn wrote:I read through just one of their Deron threads and was laughing my ass off.

"Why would Deron re-sign with Utah when he could be on a title contender?"
"If our GM wants him, trust me -- he'll get him."
"He probably hates Utah. Why would anyone live there?"
"The Jazz are probably going to have to go into a mini-rebuild soon anyway."

These guys are awfully **** cocky for a team that, while it looks incredibly promising and should have a good season, hasn't done ANYTHING yet.

Their delusions are truly remarkable.

lol, I know they are in love with KP (their GM). I lived in portland for a few years and went to quite a few blazer games (buddy of mine had season tickets), they have some hard core fans there. Their games were like the Warriors games I have been to, their fans are loud. Now that the blazer actually are looking good and they no longer have "character issue" players, the fans are psyched. I laughed when I read their posts though, because knowing their fans, its exactly what I would expect.

Copperhead wrote:

erudite23 wrote:

Bonzi wrote:
Sorry man, but that just reeks of homerism. Deron wants to send a message that he's commited to the organization? How about.... oh I don't know, SIGNING? Paul has signed already, and we heard he was going to days ago. We haven't heard a peep from Deron. This would worry me tremendously as a Jazz fan. I agree with the OP, Deron signs the same deal Chris Paul did (and Lebron and Bosh and Wade did before him)

You must be one of those "Deron/Paul to Portland!!!" morons. If you knew one damn thing, you would realize that Deron finalizing his extension is a mere formality. Chris Paul supposedly "had nothing going" on the extension front, and then out of the blue they are reporting a new deal. I'm confused as to exactly what you are hoping to accomplish by coming into another forum and entering the fray in a conversation which you clearly have no information on or understanding of. GTFO.

What do you mean they had nothing going? The front office has always said that as soon as 7/1 arrived they would begin negotiating on Paul's contract. They began on 7/1 by phone. His agent flew in on 7/2 or 7/3 and on 7/3 it was a done deal. Nothing out of the blue. But it does indeed take a little time to get these things done.

And yeah, some Portland fans make me chuckle when they just expect Paul Allen to whip out his pen and buy any free agent he wants.

What I'm talking about is that PAUL HIMSELF was silent on the issue, without making any real statements as to what his personal intentions were, and there was actually some talk starting to circulate that maybe he wasn't too hot to sign back on blah blah blah. All nonsense, of course, but the talk was still there, and then BAM, he signs.

On the flipside, Deron has been more than forthcoming about his intent to stay here and commit to this team for the long haul. He has said it over and over again, and his attitude has been of the "its so set in stone that I don't even need to worry about it and whenever its convenient for all parties, we'll sit down and finalize things on paper" variety. This idiot comes in and takes one small peice of info completely out of context, and then tries to pull the paranoia card on Jazz fans like we are so much clay waiting to be molded by his master-mind hands. He deserved a WWE Smackdown and he got one.

I don't understand why some people (mostly fans from other teams) are thinking it will be a problem re-signing Deron. Even if he doesn't sign a contract extensions this year, he'll be a RFA next year.
Unless he demands a trade, he'll be here for a long time. If someone throws the max at him, the Jazz will just match.