Kirilenko to Dallas Trade

[partnerfusion]

What would you think of this trade?

Kirilenko
Hart
Collins

For

Jason Terry
Eric Dampier

It appears Dallas is bring back Diop making Dampier expendable. The Jazz could give back up minutes to Dampier for a season until our big rookies are ready to replace him the following season. The Jazz have shown interest in Terry in the past, he definitely becomes an upgrade as back-up point and could play the 2 when necessary. Thoughts?

[JStockLivesOn]

I'm not sure how I feel about this. I like both players, but I'm not sure about the contracts or whether we'd find enough minutes for Terry. And Dampier's not any more expendable than he was last season when Diop was there.

[partnerfusion]

I agree it would be hard to find enough minutes for Terry. I guess the difference with Dampier compared to last year is how much more they will now be investing in Diop from a salary stand point - over at the Mavs board they are talking like either Dampier or Bass will need to go.

[CAE15]

an undersized shooting guard in terry and a horrible contract for a big who can rebound about as qwell as any of our other 4 bigs, ya im going to say pass.

[HolyToledo]

Fair trade but I think favor Mavs bc Terry has 3 years left on a bloated contract. If Terry's contract only one or two years I wouldnt mind it but Terry's contract too long and big causing Jazz salary caps issues in the next couple of years.

I do like Terry as a 3rd guard backing up Williams and Brewer but he makes too much money.

[fivas14]

How many years left does Terry and Damp have left?

terry would play back up point not SG.

[partnerfusion]

When I proposed the deal I thought the Dampier contract ran out before Kirilenko's but I was wrong - they expire together and Terry has even 1 more season on his than either of them.

In regards to Dampiers rebounding, he actually outranks all Jazz big men in rebounds per 48 minutes including Boozer. He played 24 minutes this last season and had 7.5 boards and 1.5 blocks. We obviously would only need him for 10 to 15 minutes a night but I'd love his rebounding and blocks coming off the bench for a year or two until Fes or KK are ready to move into that role. Expecting either Fes or KK to rebound at that level right now is a stretch - but I'd love to be wrong:)

[Fido]

Dampier has 3 years and $32.7 mill left on his deal ($9.55 mill next year).
Terry has 4 years and $41 mill left on his deal ($9.075 mill next year).

[JDubJazz]

I don't see Jason Terry fitting into the Jazz scheme at all, and Dampier's contract is way too large for the benefits he would bring. No thanks.

[BiggMann]

Change Jason Terry to Josh Howard... and we'll add Kyle Korver or Matt Harpring and a 2nd

[erudite23]

No thanks. Not even close.

[JStockLivesOn]

Yeah, those contracts are pretty lethal, now that I see the exact years and dollars. I love Jason Terry as a player -- I remember being pretty psyched when we signed him to that offer sheet way back when -- but at 9 million a year? And Dampier could be of value, but again, at 9 million a year?

I'd be happy to have either of them at the MLE probably, but at those tags... no.

[Ern III]

Methinks someone has lost sight of Kirilenko's talent. I can't wait until he's moved back to PF in the wake of Boozer's 'Brand-like' departure next offseason. In the meantime, perhaps a viewing or two of Russia at the upcoming Olympics will set one straight.

I'm not sure I'd trade any of our top seven rotation players for that dish of hot crap; Terry's got a year or two before he becomes a completely defenseless volume shooter with inadequate PG skills, and Damp's body was done with basketball a year or two ago, which was not long after his mental application seemingly disappeared upon signing a fat contract.

[JStockLivesOn]

AK at the 4 would be a disaster with our current team make-up.

[BiggMann]

AK at the 4 would be a disaster with our current team make-up.

Agreed!

AK cant do the things offensively that Boozer can, and he struggles defending the bigger PF's of the league.

Believe it or not guys, Booozer is actually good for this team.

AK is by far our most tradeable player as far as depth and back ups are concerned.

We lose Boozer and we have to watch AK fight it out at the 4.

We lose AK and CJ steps in and blossoms right in front of our eyes.

Deron/Brew/CJ/Boozer/Okur is a fun lineup

[Ern III]

AK at the 4 would be a disaster with our current team make-up.

If you've made the case elsewhere I apologise, but how so? At least we'd have some hoop protection.

[JStockLivesOn]

I don't think I've gone into any depth on it, so that's fine. I'll be happy to offer my opinion...

On the offensive end, AK at the 4 doesn't fit what we're doing at all. He's shown the ability to use his length in the post against 3s, but it's rarely a regular post-up. Usually, it involves quick flashes toward the hoop, where he can get the ball close enough to the basket that all he has to do is rise up with his long arms. If I recall, they also used this pattern to great effect when he was playing at the 4 back in the Carlos Arroyo days. You had to be a little more clever with Carlos, because he wasn't much of a pick-and-roll guy (or much of a PG in general, for that matter).

But now that we have Deron, it would be a real waste not to have a good pick-and-roll guy with him at the 4. Andrei can run it occasionally, but on a consistent basis, it just wouldn't work, especially considering his frame. Boozer can use his great strength to get to the basket off of the pick-and-roll, and he's also got a much better jumper than Kirilenko, particularly in pick-and-pop or pull-up situations. AK's shot is more suited to drive-and-kicks, where he has a chance to really set himself.

Defensively, AK isn't suited to match up against PFs. His frame can be abused by power players, and he's much more valuable as a help defender in the paint than he is as the first line of defense.

But that's just me. I'm sure others disagree.