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CJ Miles Offer Matched, Will Stay With Jazz - 1320 KFAN

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:11 pm
by javaisfun
1320 just reported that the Jazz have matched CJ's offer, so he will be coming back to the Jazz.

Re: CJ Miles Offer Matched - 1320 KFAN

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:15 pm
by BiggMann
ya just posted this on the CJ thread...

have to say I am THRILLED!!!

Sloan needs to give him minutes now!

Re: CJ Miles Offer Matched - 1320 KFAN

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:17 pm
by The Sheik
I hope this means bye bye AK.

Re: CJ Miles Offer Matched, Will Stay With Jazz - 1320 KFAN

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:21 pm
by JDubJazz
This signing reeks of a trade to me. I fully expect Morris Almond and possibly Matt Harpring to be moved by the start of the season, because the MUST give CJ consiten minutes now in order to justify this signing.

Re: CJ Miles Offer Matched, Will Stay With Jazz - 1320 KFAN

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:22 pm
by Racer X
Awesome. I am excited about this, Morris Almond is not.

CJ is going to be a good player in this league. I truly believe that. This is not as big an investment as first reported as well because its only a 3 year deal with 4th team option. So if we get nothing from CJ by year three he is off the books.

I just hope to G O D that we can trade away either AK or Harp.

Re: CJ Miles Offer Matched, Will Stay With Jazz - 1320 KFAN

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:29 pm
by outerspacefella
I'm glad Jazz match. Miles' a good asset.
I hope this mean all of front office minds are focused on build a trade to part ways with Kirilenko.

Re: CJ Miles Offer Matched, Will Stay With Jazz - 1320 KFAN

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:38 pm
by bsutefan
This tells me the Jazz do not have AK in their long-term plan, and obviously not Harpring. The Hart move cleared up the extra money to make this move. Perhaps the Jazz are scared from being burned in the past by not matching (like Mo Williams).

In any case, I think its a good move to keep Miles. Letting him walk for nothing in return is just bad business. He's a good prospect.

This creates a lot of mystery with the SF position in my mind. Obviously there is AK and Harpring at SF, but Miles, Brewer, and Korver all can play SF. The logjam is often directed at SG, but a move at SF would open up just as much playing time, if not more. Shift Korver to SF (where he played in Phily) and he's better matched defensively, and then all of a sudden you have minutes for Miles and maybe even Almond. Or let Miles step into a SF position and then have Almond fill the role that Miles did this year. Lots of options.

Re: CJ Miles Offer Matched, Will Stay With Jazz - 1320 KFAN

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:18 pm
by Beto
I'm glad the Jazz matched the offer! This just made my day...

Re: CJ Miles Offer Matched, Will Stay With Jazz - 1320 KFAN

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:20 pm
by JStockLivesOn
bsutefan wrote:This tells me the Jazz do not have AK in their long-term plan, and obviously not Harpring. The Hart move cleared up the extra money to make this move. Perhaps the Jazz are scared from being burned in the past by not matching (like Mo Williams).


I don't know how anyone can say we were burned on Mo Williams. A decent PG who is a chucker and would have made us mediocre for the foreseeable future.

Re: CJ Miles Offer Matched, Will Stay With Jazz - 1320 KFAN

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:22 pm
by JStockLivesOn
SG and SF are basically the same thing anyway. We always say we're overloaded at the "swing" position. It's all just semantics really, since Korver, Brewer, Miles, and Almond can all play both positions.

Almond is obviously the odd man out here; this news had to really depress him.

Re: CJ Miles Offer Matched, Will Stay With Jazz - 1320 KFAN

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:24 pm
by fivas14
WOW, I must admit, I was wrong. I thought there was NO way we were matching.

Re: CJ Miles Offer Matched, Will Stay With Jazz - 1320 KFAN

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:24 pm
by Pappyman
I hope that this is the Jazz's next move:
Successful Trade Scenario
Congratulations on a successful trade.

Due to Utah and Indiana being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Utah and Indiana had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
Trade ID
Trade ID #4738850

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Utah Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: 0.0 ppg, 0.0 rpg, and 0.0 apg.
Incoming Players
Jeff Foster
6-11 C / PF from Southwest Texas State
No games yet played in 2007/08
Outgoing Players
Matt Harpring
6-7 SF from Georgia Tech
No games yet played in 2007/08

Indiana Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: 0.0 ppg, 0.0 rpg, and 0.0 apg.
Incoming Players
Matt Harpring
6-7 SF from Georgia Tech
No games yet played in 2007/08
Outgoing Players
Jeff Foster
6-11 C / PF from Southwest Texas State
No games yet played in 2007/08

Depth Chart:
PG: Deron Williams, Brevin Knight/Ronnie Price
SG: Ronnie Brewer, Kyle Korver, Morris Almond/Ronnie Price
SF: Andrei Kirilenko, C.J. Miles, Yoroslav Korolev/Morris Almond
PF: Carlos Boozer, Paul Millsap, Jeff Foster/Kosta Koufos
C: Mehmet Okur, Jeff Foster, Kyrylo Fesenko

Re: CJ Miles Offer Matched, Will Stay With Jazz - 1320 KFAN

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:26 pm
by Beto
Here is the annoucement from the Jazz website. "Miles will be available via conference call in the Salt Lake Community College press room at 6:30 p.m. tonight, prior to the Utah Jazz game vs. the Dallas Mavericks in the finale of the 2008 Rocky Mountain Revue."

http://www.nba.com/jazz/news/jazz_match_cjmiles_offer.html

Re: CJ Miles Offer Matched, Will Stay With Jazz - 1320 KFAN

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:36 pm
by jazzfan1971
I couldn't have been more wrong.

Well, I guess CJ must be a monster in practice. He MUST be for the Jazz to match this offer.

Me <------- WRONG

lol, props to all of you that said he'd be retained. I still can't believe it.

Re: CJ Miles Offer Matched, Will Stay With Jazz - 1320 KFAN

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:44 pm
by Pappyman
Or is this the trade that needs to happen?:

Successful Trade Scenario
Congratulations on a successful trade.

Due to Utah and Cleveland being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Utah and Cleveland had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
Trade ID
Trade ID #4738863

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Try Another Trade or visit our Trade Forum.
Utah Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: 0.0 ppg, 0.0 rpg, and 0.0 apg.
Incoming Players
Ben Wallace
6-9 C from Virginia Union
No games yet played in 2007/08
Outgoing Players
Andrei Kirilenko
6-9 SF from Russia (Foreign)
No games yet played in 2007/08

Cleveland Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: 0.0 ppg, 0.0 rpg, and 0.0 apg.
Incoming Players
Andrei Kirilenko
6-9 SF from Russia (Foreign)
No games yet played in 2007/08
Outgoing Players
Ben Wallace
6-9 C from Virginia Union
No games yet played in 2007/08

Depth Chart:
PG: Deron Williams, Brevin Knight/Ronnie Price
SG: C.J. Miles, Kyle Korver, Morris Almond
SF: Ronnie Brewer, Matt Harpring, Yoroslav Korolev
PF: Carlos Boozer, Paul Millsap, Kosta Koufos/Jarron Collins
C: Mehmet Okur, Ben Wallace, Kyrylo Fesenko

This trade almost makes too much sense. It would give the Jazz the back up, defensive center they need who has an expiring contract. It would also move C.J. into the starting line up as SG and move Ronnie Brewer over to his natural position of SF. The Cavaliers would get an above average player to play along side Lebron James. Andrei would get to play his natural position of PF. Here is Cleveland's possible two deep:
PG: Daniel Gibson, Damon Jones
SG: Sasha Pavlovic, Devin Brown?
SF: Lebron James, Wally Szczerbiak
PF: Andrei Kirilenko, Joe Smith
C: Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Anderson Varejao

With Wallace's contract expiring, the Jazz would get the cap room that they need to re-sign Boozer and Okur when they option out after this season.

Re: CJ Miles Offer Matched, Will Stay With Jazz - 1320 KFAN

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:45 pm
by JStockLivesOn
That trade is actually kind of interesting if Ben Wallace's contract is shorter than AK's.

Re: CJ Miles Offer Matched, Will Stay With Jazz - 1320 KFAN

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:47 pm
by fivas14
I don't want anything to do with Ben Wallace.

Re: CJ Miles Offer Matched, Will Stay With Jazz - 1320 KFAN

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:50 pm
by carrottop12
A trade has to be in the works. No way the Jazz keep CJ with Almond playing well in the RMR.

Some 2 or 3 is leaving.

Re: CJ Miles Offer Matched, Will Stay With Jazz - 1320 KFAN

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:00 pm
by cavsfan_osiris
I would love AK, but the Jazz would have to include a 1st rounder for me to want to do that deal. AK's contract is so large that extra year is huge and his value isn't that great right now even though I know he's a great player.

I don't think there's any chance the Cavs would think about a trade like that though even though with a 1st rounder I would do it. There's no way Utah would include a 1st so that isn't a realistic deal.

Re: CJ Miles Offer Matched, Will Stay With Jazz - 1320 KFAN

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:03 pm
by Beto
Trading AK is too big of a move for the Jazz and I don't think they are willing to do it just yet unless its for someone that they feel makes them better. I think with the CJ re-signing, the players that should be concern are KK, Harpring and Almond. KK's contract is up next year, so the Jazz must decide whether to bring him back, let him go or trade him for value while they can. Right now I think the Jazz need to decide between KK or Almond, unless they can unload Harpring's contract so they can keep both of them which would be my preference.