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Indy/Miami/Utah
Posted: Fri Aug 1, 2008 5:55 pm
by DFO
OK I admit it. I have nothing to do at work and thought I would play around with Trade Checker.
This is based on the questionable belief that Booz will opt out. Then we should get something while we still can.
What about the following three team trade (Trade ID #4745208):
Utah Trades
Boozer, Collins and Almond
Utah Receives
Dunleavy, Jeff Foster
Indy Trades
Dunleavy, Tinsley and Foster
Indy Receives
Marion, Almond, Collins and Cook
Miami Trades
Marion and Daequan Cook
Miami Receives
Boozer and Tinsley
Why for Utah — get something for Booz before he walks and get a whole lot more flexible in the lineup (depth chart with minutes):
Center — Okur (32), Foster (16), Koufos, Fes
Power forward — AK (30), Sap (18)
Small Forward — Dunleavy (30), Harp (12), CJ Miles (6)
Shooting Guard — Brewer (24), Korver (18), CJ Miles (6)
Point Guard — Williams (38), Price/Knight (10)
Huge upgrade defensively adding a shot blocker/rebounder in Foster and returning AK to his natural spot at the 4. Dunleavy is a good three point shooter (2 a game made) and a terrific passer.
Why for Miami
Get the best player in the trade in Boozer, who supposedly wants to play there. They also fill the hole at point guard. A lineup with Wade, Boozer and Beasley will make noise in the East.
Why for Indiana
I am sure that they do not want to lose Dunleavy but it is the price for getting rid of the toxic Tinsley. Marion will also be playing his ass off in the final year of his current contract.
When Marion leaves after next year it frees up a ton of cap space for the Pacers. A couple of young guards in Almond and Cook also add to the youth movement.
Thoughts?
Re: Indy/Miami/Utah
Posted: Fri Aug 1, 2008 6:04 pm
by hoops4life
No way...
I would be borderline collins and almond for foster. Which means this would be boozer for dunleavy. There is no way I would do that.
Maybe if you cut Collins out and we recieved Marion instead of Dunleavy.
I really really don't want to see Dunleavy in a Jazz uniform. It is like all those people that wanted to send Wally to Utah.
Re: Indy/Miami/Utah
Posted: Fri Aug 1, 2008 6:08 pm
by DFO
If we could get Foster for Almond and Collins then sign me up.
As for Marion I just don't think he would fit in. And the Jazz would have to throw in filler to get him.
I think the trade as proposed gets AK back to his natural 4 spot, and improves perimter shooting and interior D.
Just don't want Booz to walk for nothing.
Ideally we resign Booz at the end of the year for reasonable money and none of this is required.
Re: Indy/Miami/Utah
Posted: Fri Aug 1, 2008 6:24 pm
by hoops4life
I would much rather have Marion than Dunleavy.
Re: Indy/Miami/Utah
Posted: Fri Aug 1, 2008 6:52 pm
by BiggMann
wow. boredom leads to some crazy things.
Utah gets the worst of this deal BY FAR. no need for Dunleavy what so ever. Foster would be nice, but not at Boozers expense.
just dont get your logic here.
Huge upgrade defensively adding a shot blocker/rebounder in Foster and returning AK to his natural spot at the 4. Dunleavy is a good three point shooter (2 a game made) and a terrific passer
Wheres the huge upgrade? Foster is NOT a shot blocker. And where does dunleavy fit into this picture? Pricey scorer, when scoring is the last of our worries.
can this be locked?
Re: Indy/Miami/Utah
Posted: Fri Aug 1, 2008 7:36 pm
by DelaneyRudd
I feel as though my eyes have been raped.
Re: Indy/Miami/Utah
Posted: Fri Aug 1, 2008 9:16 pm
by JStockLivesOn
Hey, at least this isn't a "three way trade, we'll get Oden and OJ Mayo for Collins and Price." It's a nice change of pace to see trades where we come out terribly once in a while.
Re: Indy/Miami/Utah
Posted: Fri Aug 1, 2008 9:26 pm
by Jase
Utah gets a LOT thinner up front with this trade.
Literally. AK47 and Dunleavy could share clothes.
Re: Indy/Miami/Utah
Posted: Fri Aug 1, 2008 9:48 pm
by DelaneyRudd
Dunleavy can't do half of the things AK can.
Re: Indy/Miami/Utah
Posted: Fri Aug 1, 2008 9:54 pm
by hoops4life
He also gets paid about half as much. I still don't like him.
Jazz fans don't really come up with absolutely terrible trades as much as other team fans do.
Re: Indy/Miami/Utah
Posted: Fri Aug 1, 2008 10:21 pm
by Bucky O'Hare
DelaneyRudd wrote:Dunleavy can't do half of the things AK can.
Actually, he can do pretty much everything AK-47 can except for post inflated defensive stats, and that includes being a significantly better scorer. Oh, and the whole crying thing.

Re: Indy/Miami/Utah
Posted: Fri Aug 1, 2008 10:30 pm
by fivas14
Bucky O'Hare wrote:DelaneyRudd wrote:Dunleavy can't do half of the things AK can.
Actually, he can do pretty much everything AK-47 can except for post inflated defensive stats, and that includes being a significantly better scorer. Oh, and the whole crying thing.

I like Dunleavy A LOT but he's not half the athelete AK is, athletism wise AK is a top 10 guy in the league.
Re: Indy/Miami/Utah
Posted: Fri Aug 1, 2008 10:50 pm
by hoops4life
Bucky O'Hare wrote:DelaneyRudd wrote:Dunleavy can't do half of the things AK can.
Actually, he can do pretty much everything AK-47 can except for post inflated defensive stats, and that includes being a significantly better scorer. Oh, and the whole crying thing.

I doubt that Dunleavy would have the same offensive out put being the 4th or 5th scorer on the Jazz as he has with the Pacers. Ak isn't as bad as people think because he is no longer the center of the jazz offense.
The whole crying thing is overrated.
Please enlighted us on the inflated defensive stats.
Re: Indy/Miami/Utah
Posted: Fri Aug 1, 2008 11:40 pm
by JStockLivesOn
Bucky O'Hare wrote:DelaneyRudd wrote:Dunleavy can't do half of the things AK can.
Actually, he can do pretty much everything AK-47 can except for post inflated defensive stats, and that includes being a significantly better scorer. Oh, and the whole crying thing.

The crying is done by Dunleavy's teammates because they have to play with him.
Re: Indy/Miami/Utah
Posted: Sat Aug 2, 2008 1:41 am
by Bucky O'Hare
hoops4life wrote:Bucky O'Hare wrote:DelaneyRudd wrote:Dunleavy can't do half of the things AK can.
Actually, he can do pretty much everything AK-47 can except for post inflated defensive stats, and that includes being a significantly better scorer. Oh, and the whole crying thing.

I doubt that Dunleavy would have the same offensive out put being the 4th or 5th scorer on the Jazz as he has with the Pacers. Ak isn't as bad as people think because he is no longer the center of the jazz offense.
The whole crying thing is overrated.
Please enlighted us on the inflated defensive stats.
Of course he wouldn't. Nobody would. Thing is, I highly doubt he would be the 4th-5th scoring option on the Jazz. He'd likely be 2A/2B with Williams. Dunleavy's 19+ ppg was done on good shooting percentages (48/42/83) so it holds up well against criticism. It was as much efficiency as it was volume shooting like you see from a lot of good scorers on sub-.500 teams.
Re: Indy/Miami/Utah
Posted: Sat Aug 2, 2008 2:57 am
by schneiderjazz
Bucky O'Hare wrote:DelaneyRudd wrote:Dunleavy can't do half of the things AK can.
Actually, he can do pretty much everything AK-47 can except for post inflated defensive stats, and that includes being a significantly better scorer. Oh, and the whole crying thing.

Are you telling me you think Dunleavy is a better player than AK? You wouldn't trade Dunleavy for AK if they had the same contracts?
Re: Indy/Miami/Utah
Posted: Sat Aug 2, 2008 4:02 am
by freakazoid
DFO wrote:OK I admit it. I have nothing to do at work
Utah Trades
Boozer, Collins and Almond
Utah Receives
Dunleavy, Jeff Foster
#1 - You should be fired. It doesn't matter what your job is.
#2 - Please kick me in the nuts next time, rather than making me laugh so hard that I puke. Pain is better than puking. Puke is gross.