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I read repetitive myths about our players. Here I try to sell my point.

1) Millsap and Okur
They are not better defensive duo than Boozer and Okur. Millsap is more explosive defender but his shotblocking effort leads him into foul trouble and does not scare anybody. Okur is simply incompetent help defender. The Jazz are in trouble.

2) Kirilenko
Kirilenko's bigger numbers are related to playing with bench players. Once he would get back into starting lineup he would have limited touches and his role would diminish. Also his and Brewer's 3P shooting bellow .300 is uncomparable to Lakers spreadshooters Fisher and Radmanovic, or Boston's Pierce and Allen, who all are above .400.

3) Boozer
Boozer's ability to play in the Jazz system is the pillar for any title hopes. His polished moves are the most valueable comodity, you just need to surround him with good outside shooters (see Boston, Lakers, Orlando etc.). In comparison Millsap points come off hustle plays usually later in the game or crazy spin moves but that's not enough base for beating top teams. The Jazz would be again down by 15 in 1st half, as they were in Boston and Lakers games.

There are minor changes and people mulling new hopes over and over... but these 3 sticky issues remains the same and they are crucial for Jazz success.

Not sure how this got stickied, but I agree with some of this.

Millsap is more than just a hustle guy, certainly. He has a nice jumper that is pretty consistent out to 16 feet or so, and he can finish at the hoop at a high level, but he certainly doesn't have the back to the basket repertoire that Boozer has.

Also, the biggest problem with the Jazz right now is defensive rebounding. This is going overlooked at an amazing rate. Even though Millsap is approaching 10 rpg and is widely considered a great rebounder, he is only FIFTIETH in the NBA in defensive rebound rate. In comparison, Mehmet Okur--largely considered to be a below average rebounder--is 43rd. While Carlos Boozer is 6th.

DEFENSIVE REBOUNDING, people, it is killing us. Its a real credit to our defensive improvement that we are still right there in the second tier of defensive teams this season even though our defensive rebounding has gone from one of the best to one of the worst with Boozer out.

I keep saying, and I will say again, defensive rebounding is our biggest weakness, and the #1 thing that has hurt us with Carlos Boozer out.

It's sticky cause it repeats over and over.

Millsap is great but his jumper has low elevation. According to http://www.82games.com/0708/07UTA11A.HTM 10% of his jumpshots are blocked (Boozer 3%, Okur 2%).

My bad, I read "sticky" and I didn't look at the icon to see if it was an actual sticky.

And just because his jumpshot gets blocked more doesn't mean anything. I don't care if its blocked 40% of the time, if it goes in the other 60% then its a good jumpshot to me.

I was just scared to open a subject that had the title of Sticky Jazz. You know Amaechi used to play for this team.

erudite23 wrote:
Also, the biggest problem with the Jazz right now is defensive rebounding. This is going overlooked at an amazing rate. Even though Millsap is approaching 10 rpg and is widely considered a great rebounder, he is only FIFTIETH in the NBA in defensive rebound rate. In comparison, Mehmet Okur--largely considered to be a below average rebounder--is 43rd. While Carlos Boozer is 6th.

DEFENSIVE REBOUNDING, people, it is killing us. Its a real credit to our defensive improvement that we are still right there in the second tier of defensive teams this season even though our defensive rebounding has gone from one of the best to one of the worst with Boozer out.

I keep saying, and I will say again, defensive rebounding is our biggest weakness, and the #1 thing that has hurt us with Carlos Boozer out.

Great point, I think boozer is under appreciated by most people for what he brings. This isn't to denigrate Millsap, as he is a very good player, but its something to keep in mind.

GP wrote:This isn't to denigrate Millsap, as he is a very good player, but its something to keep in mind.

Oh yes. Everybody, who likes Boozer, must like Millsap.

erudite23 wrote:Not sure how this got stickied, but I agree with some of this.

Millsap is more than just a hustle guy, certainly. He has a nice jumper that is pretty consistent out to 16 feet or so, and he can finish at the hoop at a high level, but he certainly doesn't have the back to the basket repertoire that Boozer has.

I agree to a point. I think Sap might be worth a roll of the dice with all things considered. I think with a little more experience being 'the man' in the offense, he can provide that consistent high post scoring we need.

#4)- Matt Harpring.... Matt has led his team to much success.

Everyone knows his junior Jazz has beaten team after team of girls age 10-12, and one group of girls who sparkled age 6-8.

What they don't know is that Matt's Wife still owns everything he does, and that she and Jerry have an agreement as far as what Matt does from one minute to the next. Jaron Collins = also gay/Dr.Harpringsucks.

Do you feel any pain, freakazoid?