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Make your own off season moves. 

Post#1 » by Shocker00 » Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:24 pm

List everything that you would like to go your way. Please only list real possibilitys. There is no way we will trade for K Bryant or L James.

1. Im hoping that Boozer, Okur and Korver does not opt out of thier contracts.
2. I would resign Millsap, Almond, and Knight to contracts.
3. I would trade Okur to the Hornets for Tyson Chandler.
4. I would Trade Boozer and Miles to Toronto for Chris Bosh.
5. I would trade Kirilenko and Harpring to Houston for Tracy Mcgrady
6. I would keep the 2010 ny pick we got.

Here is my starting lineup:
Deron Williams / Brevin Knight
Kyle Korver / Morris Almond
Tracy Mcgrady / Ronnie Brewer
Chris Bosh / Paul Millsap
Tyson Chandler / Kosta Koufus / Fesenko

I check and all trades would work with trade checker.

I would then draft best palyer availble at either PG/SG

The Reason:
1. We got a lot bigger and can match up with Lakers front court.
2. Defense just got a lot better.
3. We still have plenty of offensive weapons.
4. Free agents might sign for cheaper as we would have a chance for a championship.

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Post#2 » by hoops4life » Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:45 pm

Tracy McGrady is done. I wouldn't trade AK for him straight across.
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Post#3 » by Shocker00 » Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:49 pm

Why dont you make your own team? This is the team I would like to have. I personally would trade Kirilenko for a late 2nd round draft pick just to get out of his contract. I think he is overrated and way overpaid. I still think Mcgrady is going to be a good player for a few more years myself. But that is my opinion. What would your team be? The current one? I just think Mcgrady is a lot better player than Kirilenko is.
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Post#4 » by HolyToledo » Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:28 pm

1) Boozer doesnt opt out and Jazz trade him along with Brewer and this years #1 pick to Detroit for Rip Hamilton and Amir Johnson. (Detroit opens up salary for run at Lebron and/or Wade in 2010).
2) Keep Memo
3) Keep Millsap
4) Fire Sloan hire Horncek
5) Trade AK-47 and NyK #1 pick to 76ers for Andre Igudola & contract filler
6) Korver doesnt opt out
7) Collins 1 year deal
8) Knight 1 year deal
9) Price small 2 year deal with team option for 3rd year
10) Let Almond Leave

Jazz PG Williams Price Knight
SG Hamilton Miles Price
C Memo Kosta Fess Collins
PF Millsap Johnson Kosta
SF Iggy Korver Harpring
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Post#5 » by slambamJazz » Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:30 pm

I hope Harping retires. The jazz could use the cash savings. The Jazz do one trade of Boozer and the Knicks pick for Wallace and the Bobcats 12 pick. The Jazz get the Lakers 28 pick for a 3 2rounders and Cash. The Jazz draft 12 Lawson 21 Peterson 28. Young. The Jazz resign Price plus Brian Skinner. The Jazz team C. Okur, Skinner ,Koufus Pf Kirilenko,Milsap , Patterson Sf Wallace, Miles, Young Sg Brewer ,Korver PG Williams,Lawson,Price
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Post#6 » by carrottop12 » Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:36 pm

Find a way to get Kevin Martin.
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Post#7 » by babyjax13 » Fri May 1, 2009 12:25 am

I don't think there is a way for us to get Martin without sending Deron, or sending Millsap+Brewer+picks. Neither is a very attractive option. Plus, Martin is a pretty bad defender. I love his offense, but we already have enough of that.

Oh--and anyone who thinks that a lotto pick+Kirilenko gets us Andre Igoudala is out of their minds. I could "maybe" see a guy like Caron Butler, but even that is a bit of a long shot. If AK can get his weight up to about 240 in the off-season I don't think we would want to trade him anyway (listed as 225).

I also think Miles needs to go--maybe group him with some pieces for Kelenna Azubuike. If we keep Boozer, Millsap and Korver that's fine--if we can't I would be interested in seeing what we can get in a sign and trade--but I sort of have the feeling that unless the front office thinks we really need to change something that they will all be back.
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Post#8 » by deviljets7 » Fri May 1, 2009 7:16 am

Visiting fan (New Jersey) that comes in peace.

Here's a minor trade that I think would make sense for both teams.

Utah Trades: Matt Harpring, Kyrylo Fesenko and a future #1 (doesn't have to be this year's pick)
New Jersey Trades: Keyon Dooling, Josh Boone and Eduardo Najera

You guys get a versatile combo guard who can defend both point and shooting guards, can hit 3-pointers and play the point in a pinch. Boone and Najera are both hustle guys and provide some much needed front court depth. With so many pending free agents and being up against the luxury tax, turning Harpring into 3 likely rotation players would be a huge boost.

As a Nets fan, I would do it since they get a pick and this deal helps their chances of having the need cap space for a max-level free agent. If they want to make a run at a max-level free agent in the summer of 2010, both Dooling ($3.8 million team option with a 500K buyout) and Boone (RFA with a $3 million salary, but $6 million cap hold) would have to be gone as it is. Dumping Najera would clear an additional $3 million during that summer.

Fesenko was included purely for cap reasons and if Utah wanted him back, I'm sure it wouldn't be a deal breaker. Fesenko wouldn't have to be included in the deal if Boone was replaced with Sean Williams. However, for the cap hold reason I think NJ would rather move Boone, plus I can't see Williams and Sloan working out with Sean's off-the-court baggage.
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Post#9 » by Da110n0rcutt » Fri May 1, 2009 8:44 am

When the Jazz offer Memo his extension...I really don't think we should bring Boozer back as our Power Forward. So what we need to do is Sign and Trade with Boozer, and insert Memo as our Power Forward. If you could only imagine Okur in that pick-n-roll with Williams all the time you have so many options with Memo too in that set with the pick and pop out to the 3 for M.O. Money, that little 15-18 foot jumper that Boozer and Williams did...instead Memo has a way better stroke, or Memo just takes it to the hoop for a slam or lay in, and Williams just keeps it to work his magic. Also with Memo at the 4 we can bring in another 6'11" or taller guy alongside him for our interior defensive game and we would be so much better defensively.

Order of 2009 offseason
1 Resign Memo
2 Sign and Trade with Boozer to Detriot for Hamilton and a Sign and Trade for Wallace
3 Trade AK and Harpring's expiring contract to Phoenix for O'neal
4 Sign and Trade Millsap and Brewer to Golden State for Jackson
5 Resign Ronnie Price to a minimum
6 Bring back Dee Brown as your 3rd string PG for veteran's minimum or draft a PG

So your lookin at...
Williams/Price/Brown or Draft Pick
Hamilton/Korver
Jackson/Miles
Okur/Koufos
O'neal/Wallace/Fesenko

Phoenix would be back to their run and gun ways with...
Nash
Barbosa
Richardson
Kirilenko
Stoudamire

Detriot
Stuckey
Afflalo
Prince
Boozer
Brown

Golden State
Ellis
Crawford
Maggette
Millsap
Biendrins

This way we get NASTY back to OUR UTAH JAZZ! Not only that we bring in veterans that would contribute right away with all of them we get have championship experience, so they know how to win in the playoffs. We get wings that can shoot and put up 15 to 30 points a night, some bigs with a rotation with Okur and Koufos would give us height and defensive minded big men we need down low. Last to have Deron still lead this team to a mother freakin championship!
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Post#10 » by UTJazzFan_Echo1 » Fri May 1, 2009 3:04 pm

AK and Brewer for Tracy? Seriously? Maybe AK and Collins or Harpring but not Brewer.

If at all possible I want everyone to stick around and see how things work out.
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Post#11 » by JDubJazz » Fri May 1, 2009 3:25 pm

babyjax13 wrote:I don't think there is a way for us to get Martin without sending Deron, or sending Millsap+Brewer+picks. Neither is a very attractive option. Plus, Martin is a pretty bad defender. I love his offense, but we already have enough of that...



I would have no problem at all sending Millsap+Brewer+picks for Kevin Martin. Martin is a star, Brew and Sap are complimentary pieces. In my opinion, no amount of complimentary pieces can equivocate a star. If you ever get a chance to do that kind of a deal, then you have to do it.

I also think there is a misconception on this board that the Jazz are good enough on offense. I disagree. The Jazz were not close to a top offense this year. If you aren't going to be one of the top two or three defensive teams in the league, then you need to be a top tier offense. Kevin Martin, Deron Williams and (ugh) Carlos Boozer make the Jazz a top tier offense. The Jazz's lack of outside shooting ability at the 2 and 3 are directly responsible for Boozer, AK and Sap's struggles in the paint, because teams can pack the paint and give them zero space in which to operate.
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Post#12 » by outerspacefella » Fri May 1, 2009 6:42 pm

Boozer + Miles to Detroit for HMaxiwell, Hamilton and filler.
Millsap sign and trade for Travis Outlaw.
Stay put with Korver/Okur.
Then pray to trade Kirilenko and get a PF.
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Post#13 » by loserX » Fri May 1, 2009 7:53 pm

JDubJazz wrote:I also think there is a misconception on this board that the Jazz are good enough on offense. I disagree. The Jazz were not close to a top offense this year. If you aren't going to be one of the top two or three defensive teams in the league, then you need to be a top tier offense.


The Jazz were 7th in PPG, 3rd in FG%, 1st in APG. As far as PPG, four of the six teams ahead of them were Phoenix, Golden State, New York and Indiana. How did those top tier offenses do this season?

The Jazz offence certainly isn't perfect, and there are areas that need to be addressed. But a Millsap/Brewer/whatever for Martin trade, where we move two of the only guys who even give a damn on defence for another guy who doesn't...can't argue with the value, but I don't want to turn into the Warriors. I for one want defence prioritized over more offence.
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Post#14 » by carrottop12 » Fri May 1, 2009 8:25 pm

One thing the Jazz need is another ball handler to put next to Deron, that would really cut down on his turn overs next season which could really help the Jazz who always seem to get killed by points off of TO's.

Neither CJ Miles or Ronnie Brewer are NBA caliber ball handlers so Deron gets stuck trying to create for everyone and it jacks up his TO's.
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Post#15 » by Lava Rock Kid » Fri May 1, 2009 8:57 pm

I am hoping that Millsap, Okur, Boozer and Korver all opt out.
Utah does not resign any of them.
Trade brewer and Williams to Portland for Brandon Roy,
Trade Kirilenko for an expiring contract.
Trade any players with a contract that goes beyond 2010 for a draft pick and expiring.
Sign D-League hard working players to a 1 year deal.
Go lotto next year (use our pick and NY Pick)
Use the immense cap room to pick up a top shelf free agent (No guys like boozer and okur on their first big deal, I want a proven Vet or two.
Give up on the 2009-2010 Season,
Go into 2011 with
Roy,
Lotto Pick
Lotto pick
Top Vet
Top Vet.
Bench will be the best hardworking guys from the D league.

I know I am blowing it up, but Nobody on the Jazz has that killer instinct to lead a team to a ring. I think Roy is better then Deron Williams.
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Post#16 » by kamazilla » Fri May 1, 2009 8:58 pm

The Jazz as currently comprised are an oddly structured team: no consistent O from the 2 and 3 spots and no consistent D from the 4 and 5 spots. I really feel we need to keep Boozer- his post presence and mid-range touch are irreplaceable in the Jazz offense. But Boozer and Okur as our final line of defense?! Yeah, we've seen how that works out... And AK the malcontent as our defensive anchor?! He once was my favorite player, but he is clearly not engaged in the way he once was; he needs a bigger role with a worse team.

Keep Deron, Boozer, Brewer, Korver and Koufous. Should be able to parlay the rest of our assets into a C who would anchor our D (Chandler, Okafor, Dalembert) a 2/3 offensive threat (Wallace, Martin, etc.) and a combo guard who can shoot, defend and run a team (Hinrich?) Eight man rotation right there. Plus this years #1, maybe Fes, Price and Collins and contracts we take on to make the trades work and we have a team. Viola!

Yeah, if only it were that easy...
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Post#17 » by Lava Rock Kid » Fri May 1, 2009 9:00 pm

deviljets7 wrote:Visiting fan (New Jersey) that comes in peace.

Here's a minor trade that I think would make sense for both teams.

Utah Trades: Matt Harpring, Kyrylo Fesenko and a future #1 (doesn't have to be this year's pick)
New Jersey Trades: Keyon Dooling, Josh Boone and Eduardo Najera

You guys get a versatile combo guard who can defend both point and shooting guards, can hit 3-pointers and play the point in a pinch. Boone and Najera are both hustle guys and provide some much needed front court depth. With so many pending free agents and being up against the luxury tax, turning Harpring into 3 likely rotation players would be a huge boost.

As a Nets fan, I would do it since they get a pick and this deal helps their chances of having the need cap space for a max-level free agent. If they want to make a run at a max-level free agent in the summer of 2010, both Dooling ($3.8 million team option with a 500K buyout) and Boone (RFA with a $3 million salary, but $6 million cap hold) would have to be gone as it is. Dumping Najera would clear an additional $3 million during that summer.

Fesenko was included purely for cap reasons and if Utah wanted him back, I'm sure it wouldn't be a deal breaker. Fesenko wouldn't have to be included in the deal if Boone was replaced with Sean Williams. However, for the cap hold reason I think NJ would rather move Boone, plus I can't see Williams and Sloan working out with Sean's off-the-court baggage.


I would love to have Najera
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Post#18 » by babyjax13 » Fri May 1, 2009 9:50 pm

Najera is done in the NBA--but the other players in that trade are interesting.
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Post#19 » by gofret » Sat May 2, 2009 11:12 am

If ak will be traded..Would you guys consider Hedo+picks or w.e for Millsap trade? :)

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Post#20 » by seejaydeja » Sat May 2, 2009 4:30 pm

gofret wrote:If ak will be traded..Would you guys consider Hedo+picks or w.e for Millsap trade? :)

Deron
Ronnie
Hedo
Boozer?
Okur



I like Hedo, but he isn't the answer to our problems, especially if we resign Korver. I would much rather watch Booz go elsewhere and resign Sap
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