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This guy kills me. He's injured every season. He's undersized, he isn't a defensive presence, he's not athletic. He's scoring and boards that he does well when healthy. If he opt's out he is an idiot, he likely won't get even the 12M back, let alone more. Utah deserves much better, he fn' owes Utah, F Him.

Then you got Milsap a FA, I really would let him go as well. He's Boozer light without the injury. If he wants more than like 8 let him go. You guys need size and toughness and a shot blocker. You gotta makeup for Okur whos more a great jump shooter than anything not a banger. Let Boozer & Milsap go and go get Amare.

D Will needs to hit the treadmill. If he wants to remain top 3 he needs to shed some pounds. If he did he could be the best PG in the game next year.

This reminds me of the Bonzi Wells situation...just not to that extreme. He won't make $12m in the open market, not under these times. It's better for him to stay put. Jazz are a good team and if he opts out he'd most likely be heading to a team that's not half as good as what the Jazz are. No elite teams are going to pay this guy more than $12m. If he opts out he's going to pull in 8, 10m at the most.

I feel pretty much the same. Not a bad post coming from a Laker fan.

DubaLakers wrote:This guy kills me. He's injured every season. He's undersized, he isn't a defensive presence, he's not athletic. He's scoring and boards that he does well when healthy. If he opt's out he is an idiot, he likely won't get even the 12M back, let alone more. Utah deserves much better, he fn' owes Utah, F Him.

Then you got Milsap a FA, I really would let him go as well. He's Boozer light without the injury. If he wants more than like 8 let him go. You guys need size and toughness and a shot blocker. You gotta makeup for Okur whos more a great jump shooter than anything not a banger. Let Boozer & Milsap go and go get Amare.

D Will needs to hit the treadmill. If he wants to remain top 3 he needs to shed some pounds. If he did he could be the best PG in the game next year.

Great points. Amare would be a steal, I'm thinking now that the clipper are drafting blake, maybe they'd be willing to listen to offers for Camby or Kaman.

D Will is just fine. He was in amazing shape before he got hurt and never had time to recover from it. He will be lean for the next season.

While I love Amare, I would rather see a play for Chris Bosh if it could be doable. I think he fits what we need a little better, plus he has a good rapport already with D-Will.

Boozer = Loozer simple as that. He only cares about himself. I wish he would not opt out and Jazz trade him for good player. He is gone for nothing! Memo likely resigns and Millsap stays. Korver opts out and he is gone! Jazz only add hansbourgh type player for bench hustle with #1 pick plus veteran for 1 year contract for mid-level exception (see Mikki Moore or Foyle).

Jazz entire organization's only hope is NYK #1 pick being top 3 pick next year and they draft impact player. Preferably a dominant player of the quality of Shaq or Duncan. That would be extemely lucky. Jazz will be a middle level team for years until D-Will leaves then Jazz will be a lottery team. The future is bleak regarding the possibility of ever winning a championship in Utah. D-WIll should demand trade me after 2 years.

HolyToledo wrote:Boozer = Loozer simple as that. He only cares about himself. I wish he would not opt out and Jazz trade him for good player. He is gone for nothing! Memo likely resigns and Millsap stays. Korver opts out and he is gone! Jazz only add hansbourgh type player for bench hustle with #1 pick plus veteran for 1 year contract for mid-level exception (see Mikki Moore or Foyle).

Jazz entire organization's only hope is NYK #1 pick being top 3 pick next year and they draft impact player. Preferably a dominant player of the quality of Shaq or Duncan. That would be extemely lucky. Jazz will be a middle level team for years until D-Will leaves then Jazz will be a lottery team. The future is bleak regarding the possibility of ever winning a championship in Utah. D-WIll should demand trade me after 2 years.

Sweet.. I guess I don't need to keep up with the team or watch any games anymore, you've got it all figured out.

I absolutely agree on all points about Boozer.

On the other hand it's kind of an insult to call Millsap "Boozer Light". The guy brings everything he has, and once he's conditioned to play more minutes and more games he will be more consistent. Obviously his size is an issue, which is why I believe he could be complimented greatly by someone like Bosh or Amare.

Either Millsap/Okur could come off the bench. As long as they have a lengthier big man next to them we'll be ok. Also, I think Koufo's potential is constantly underestimated. I saw tremendous work ethic and a little fire in him all season. I think his 18 pt 10 reb game vs. Dallas showed what he could be doing.

We should let Korver go, but only if we get another shooter or two. We need shooter/defender type players like Bowen, Azubuike, or Battier. Kirelenko could be involved in some trades to do so.

There's a lot this organization needs to do, but it's easier said than done.

hope the door hits boozer on the way out. You burned Jazz fans a few too many times and i'm not talking about injuries, go sign with the bobcats for less.

I'd love the bosh/amare situation much better than bringing boozer back. Milsap works hard..Korver shoots well (when he doesn't have a messed up wrist), Okur has said he'll take a cut for a long term deal with the jazz.

But yeah..boozer..

HolyToledo wrote:Boozer = Loozer simple as that. He only cares about himself. I wish he would not opt out and Jazz trade him for good player. He is gone for nothing! Memo likely resigns and Millsap stays. Korver opts out and he is gone! Jazz only add hansbourgh type player for bench hustle with #1 pick plus veteran for 1 year contract for mid-level exception (see Mikki Moore or Foyle).

Jazz entire organization's only hope is NYK #1 pick being top 3 pick next year and they draft impact player. Preferably a dominant player of the quality of Shaq or Duncan. That would be extemely lucky. Jazz will be a middle level team for years until D-Will leaves then Jazz will be a lottery team. The future is bleak regarding the possibility of ever winning a championship in Utah. D-WIll should demand trade me after 2 years.

I don't see how anyone could believe this.....

Our owner is willing to pay the lux tax in the short term if needed, and over the next three years we have a lottery pick (KOC is very good at picking lottery talent--see Brewer and Williams); a bad economy which actually helps us because we are one of the few teams that are going to still have resources, so we will be able to pick up at least one player on the cheap (I guarantee it); and then we will have a 17 million dollar expiring contract to either trade for a disgruntled star (see Jason Richardson) or let it expire and reload with free agents and keep AK on a cheaper contract. Throw in the fact that Deron, Millsap, Brewer, Miles, Fesenko, Price, and especially Koufos, plus whoever we draft this year will all still be developing, our future looks really bright. I had visions of an apoctalyptic type off-season for the Jazz, but things look like they are going to work out a lot better for us than was originally thought.

Confusing post. On one hand, you say that Boozer stinks and Jazz shouldn't want him. On the other, he is opting out, which you should consider to be a favor to the Jazz. Get your thoughts together.

As far as opting out, I don't think anyone doubts that Boozer can get five years and sixty million from somebody, if not five and $75 million. To play for one year and $12.7 million would be downright foolish. If he got hurt in the upcoming season and couldn't continue to play, he'd be out anywhere from $50-65 million dollars. No player in Carlos' position would do anything different.

Boozer doesnt opt out he has value as an expiring contract with high trade value. He opts out and signs with Detroit then Jazz get nothing. Even though I dont want him on the team Jazz at least get a player in trade if he doesnt opt out.

HolyToledo wrote:Boozer doesnt opt out he has value as an expiring contract with high trade value. He opts out and signs with Detroit then Jazz get nothing. Even though I dont want him on the team Jazz at least get a player in trade if he doesnt opt out.

We can just do a sign and trade. I don't know where anyone gets this idea that we can't do it if Detroit offers Carlos a contract. All we have to do is find a team that wants him (ie. Chicago) they agree on a contract with Boozer, and send us some players in return so they can 'sign' him (it is officially a trade, but that is more of how it works). There is no risk in this for us--it is the same as if he did not opt out and if the other team changes its mind before the transaction is through then we loose nothing (well, we loose Boozer unless we find another partner).

DubaLakers wrote:....
D Will needs to hit the treadmill. If he wants to remain top 3 he needs to shed some pounds. If he did he could be the best PG in the game next year.

Amazing not one Jazz fan noticed before. You know what... you're absolutely right. Many times at the end of the season my eyes told me Williams was not in shape. More often than not he looked slow, out of physical synch and somewhat a little bit more bulky than needed...

majortripps69 wrote:While I love Amare, I would rather see a play for Chris Bosh if it could be doable. I think he fits what we need a little better, plus he has a good rapport already with D-Will.

Probably not going to happen, but Bosh would be amazing in a Jazz uni.

Meh. He'd be better than Boozer, but he's a pretty bad defensive player as well and most of his points come from isolations - he'd have to radically change the way he plays in order to fit in with the Jazz.
Amare is equally bad defensively but at least he's a great pick&roll player.

outerspacefella wrote:

DubaLakers wrote:....
D Will needs to hit the treadmill. If he wants to remain top 3 he needs to shed some pounds. If he did he could be the best PG in the game next year.

Amazing not one Jazz fan noticed before. You know what... you're absolutely right. Many times at the end of the season my eyes told me Williams was not in shape. More often than not he looked slow, out of physical synch and somewhat a little bit more bulky than needed...

Like I already said...before the season started Deron was in amazing shape, I remember even hearing the sports radio shows calling him too skinny. He came into the pre-season in the best shape of his career and then he got hurt. During his rehab he put all his weight back on due to being limited in practicing or conditioning. He slowly worked himself back into fairly decent shape when he came back and started playing again but never got to where he was before the season started.

I fully expect Deron to come ready for next season thin and lean like this last season. Expect some facial dunks this upcoming season from D-Will.

Boozer opts out then he is an UNrestricted free agent and signs whit whomever he wants and Jazz cant stop it or trade him.

Why everyone is so upset about this. Boozer is setting up a sign and trade. We could never trade Booz for such a deal as TT and Hinrich if he didn't opt out. They'd have to be idiots to trade for a one-year deal and last I checked Kevin McHale isn't the Bulls GM. Detroit seems to be the only team that has real interest in Booz as well as the resources to sign Booz and if he has any brains he'd have to prefer a sign and trade to Derrick Rose's team, where his stats would remain relatively the same, over Rodney Stuckey's team. This is exactly what we as Jazz fans should want to hear. Thank you Booz! Signing you this time around may actually improve our Championship odds!!!!