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The suns fans seam really down on amare especially after he said that he would want to go to ny in 2010. Mabey a trade would be good for both teams.

Kirilenko for Amare straight up works, but I think we would need to throw in NY 2010 draft pick.

After doing this, let either boozer or Okur walk, whoever opts out to clear cap room.

Resign Korver the resign okur (if both okur and boozer walk).

I think Phoenix is going to be desperate to let Amare go, but they wont want to send him to us to hurt them. That is why I think we have to include the pick.

As for the 2010 draft pick. NY will probably be drafting between 8-12 so I dont see much value.

This helps us free up cap room, letting either boozer or Okur walk. We get a better player than kirilenko in Amare. Amare is no more injured than Boozer, and is more of a defensive presence in the paint than boozer is. Kirilenko is going to walk as soon as his contract is up, Amare probably will leave Utah in 2010 too, but it is an effort to change things up with low risk.

This helps phoenix, with a new kirilenko that will probably strive and a lotto pick that might be a number 1.

Even though Amare is not a good defender I have always thought he would be great at the pick and roll offense we run. He is very mobile and still has quickness and athleticism. AKwould probably be better in a more free wheeling offense, too.

With the threat that he will only be here one year, we shouldn't have to pay too much of a premium for him. Suns can get Ak for two years and sign him for longer or they can let Amare walk away for nothing at the end of next season.

This helps phoenix, with a new kirilenko that will probably strive and a lotto pick that might be a number 1.

You contradict yoruself... earlier in the post you say that the pick will be between 8-12 and you don't see much value in it and then you turn around and say it will probably be #1. Which is it?

I don't see why anybody would want to trade a pick that has fairly good odds to become the number one pick.

NY pick? Kirilenko straight up and nothing else. 100% salary dump. Amare is worth nothing more than as an expiring. Suns would consider a 1 year sign and trade for David Lee at this point. The maximum amount of effort Amare is giving to any team next year is just enough to keep NY interested in signing him.

DelaneyRudd wrote:NY pick? Kirilenko straight up and nothing else. 100% salary dump. Amare is worth nothing more than as an expiring. Suns would consider a 1 year sign and trade for David Lee at this point. The maximum amount of effort Amare is giving to any team next year is just enough to keep NY interested in signing him.

Honestly, I think everyone is just a little too protective of the NY pick. I'm going to go out on a limb and predict NY makes the playoffs and it's going to be a fairly inconsequential pick. If they are going to try and lure big name players like Dwyane Wade or Lebron James, they are going to have to show they are committed to winning. This is why they brought D'Antoni in. They will not be losers next year, unfortunately for us.

No way. Amare is going to leave for NY anyways so why bother? Rather keep the pick and see if we cant get lucky.

majortripps69 wrote:Honestly, I think everyone is just a little too protective of the NY pick.

Agreed but at the sametime some people are trying to give it away for free. I doubt it will be a top three pick but there are still good odds it might be. I don't think that we need to give away a potential top 3 pick for a possible one year rental of Amare.

The players on the floor, sans a few recent draft picks all know they are only working for their own paycheck outside of New York.

I think the NY pick has a terrific chance at being top 3.

I don't mind trading it if the return justifies it, but, I'm not interested in moving it as if it's a 8-12 range pick... I'd rather just keep it and take my chances.

That being said, I love Amare. But, no way do I trade the NY pick for a 1 year rental. If you can work out an extention with him, ok.

Further, I'd think Boozer for Amare would be better for both teams. Let the Jazz keep the pick. Pho gets Boozer locked into a long term deal and Utah has to risk Amare bolting in a year.

i wouldnt trade the NY pick for Amare for just 1 year...that seem very very stupid....AK for Amare straight up? sign me up. doesnt help our defense tho

If the Jazz want to trade the pick, do it next year during the season when you have a better idea of where it will be in order to get equal value. If you trade it know it is literally a 50/50 chance of it being a good high lottery pick or high teens low 20's pick.

You don't take 50/50 risks in the league, especially when you can just play it safe.

majortripps69 wrote:

DelaneyRudd wrote:NY pick? Kirilenko straight up and nothing else. 100% salary dump. Amare is worth nothing more than as an expiring. Suns would consider a 1 year sign and trade for David Lee at this point. The maximum amount of effort Amare is giving to any team next year is just enough to keep NY interested in signing him.

Honestly, I think everyone is just a little too protective of the NY pick. I'm going to go out on a limb and predict NY makes the playoffs and it's going to be a fairly inconsequential pick. If they are going to try and lure big name players like Dwyane Wade or Lebron James, they are going to have to show they are committed to winning. This is why they brought D'Antoni in. They will not be losers next year, unfortunately for us.

I'd honestly be really surprised if the Knicks make the playoffs. They probably have the worst roster in the entire NBA right now.

Duhon
Hughes/Mobley
Richardson/Jeffries/Gallinari/Chandler
Harrington
Curry/Sene

Robinson, Lee and Wilcox are FA. That's just a horrible, horrible team. I agree with Jazzfan1971. This pick has a pretty good chance of being a top 3 pick. I wouldn't mind giving it up if we can improve the team significantly, but having Amare for one year is just not worth it.

Amare would be great on the Jazz, especially playing next to Kirilenko, IMO. I never feel its a good idea to simply let outstanding players walk with no return, so I say sign & trade Boozer rather than AK. That way, we would likely be able to hang on to the NYK pick. It won't end up being #1, but if it IS- and belongs to another team- how many people on this board would be calling for KOC's head? I don't see him trading that pick unless we get serious value...

LOL @ the Knicks making the playoffs. We ARE talking about the same NY Knicks right? Considering that the Cavs are likely going to lose the ECF, he is less likely to want to stay in Cleveland with a team that has seemed to peak and not able to handle the Magic the way they had hoped. The Lebron lottery will be as strong as ever, and I guarantee that the Knicks will be one of the strongest contenders, and they are going to dump more players to make room. Don't kid yourself, the NYK will not be in the playoffs next year, not even close...

As for Amare, I don't know how I feel about him. I would like to see somebody come here that is willing to stick with the system, and I don't see Amare giving a damn. Sure we would dump salary, but how much would it really fix.

hoops4life wrote:With the threat that he will only be here one year, we shouldn't have to pay too much of a premium for him. Suns can get Ak for two years and sign him for longer or they can let Amare walk away for nothing at the end of next season.

This helps phoenix, with a new kirilenko that will probably strive and a lotto pick that might be a number 1.

You contradict yoruself... earlier in the post you say that the pick will be between 8-12 and you don't see much value in it and then you turn around and say it will probably be #1. Which is it?

I don't see why anybody would want to trade a pick that has fairly good odds to become the number one pick.

Uhh, re-read the quote. It MIGHT be a number one pick. I think it will be between 8-12, but that is still a valueable pick. Just not what some in here think.

Amare is a great offensive player...But is a negative defensive player....
And then I hope that the Ny first pick will be very good the next year...
I don't agree..