Forget the Knicks. Jazz contend for the #1 pick.

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Forget the Knicks. Jazz contend for the #1 pick. 

Post#1 » by habibadobe » Tue Nov 3, 2009 4:51 am

With the heart and effort the Jazz players showed tonight at home may as well blow up the team and start over. I dont see this team being more then a first round exit for years to come. So my plan cut salary and get what draft picks you can. Maybe a few years in the lottery and we may have players that want to play hard and try to prove something, thats better then the over paid no heart roster we have now.
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Post#2 » by DelaneyRudd » Tue Nov 3, 2009 5:23 am

The 1 and the 2. That'd be something.
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Post#3 » by carrottop12 » Tue Nov 3, 2009 5:23 am

Honestly, lets say the Jazz don't improve on the road and turn in another 17-24 road record, which very well could happen, and continue to play like they have at home so far they could easily be on the outside looking in come playoff time. They are still going to get 40+ wins, but in the West you may have to win 49 games to make the playoffs and this team doesn't have that in them right now.
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Post#4 » by outerspacefella » Tue Nov 3, 2009 5:32 am

Doesn't the Jazz owe their own 2010 pick to some other team?
That would be funny... to tank the season when you owe your own pick!
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Post#5 » by carrottop12 » Tue Nov 3, 2009 5:35 am

outerspacefella wrote:Doesn't the Jazz owe their own 2010 pick to some other team?
That would be funny... to tank the season when you owe your own pick!


The Jazz owe it to the Wolves but it's lottery protected so if the Jazz miss the playoffs they'll keep the pick.
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Post#6 » by jazzfan1971 » Tue Nov 3, 2009 5:43 am

I thought that the Jazz were playing inspired defense in the 3rd quarter. Seemed like they just ran out of gas in the 4th.

Nice to see the ability to play defense though.
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Post#8 » by Soul Patch » Tue Nov 3, 2009 7:01 am

I still don't get why people want to blow up this team. We need tinkering and not much else. I honestly don't think having both Boozer and Millsap at PF is conducive to our production from that position. I'd take about anything for Boozer because it'd simplify a lot and with knicks pick it wouldn't be too difficult to fill any void in our roster.
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Post#9 » by GP » Tue Nov 3, 2009 8:30 am

DelaneyRudd wrote:The 1 and the 2. That'd be something.



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Post#10 » by schneiderjazz » Tue Nov 3, 2009 2:13 pm

jazzfan1971 wrote:I thought that the Jazz were playing inspired defense in the 3rd quarter. Seemed like they just ran out of gas in the 4th.

Nice to see the ability to play defense though.


I thought the Jazz showed they could play D at some points during the game when they were down. But then they got desperate on the offensive end and threw up some wild shot. This team takes things for granted. They think they're better than they actually are. They think they can turn it on at any time and win games. They can't.
I wanna say that this game was a wake up call. That things will change now that they realize they have to work hard every night. But th same thing has happened in the past 2 years and everything remains the same. I'm already preparing for a long season and the 10th and 15th pick in the draft.
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Post#11 » by mg » Tue Nov 3, 2009 4:45 pm

Good thing for the Jazz the 2010 draft will be loaded at PF. Memo and Millsap will be ok in the frontcourt but they need to add an athletic PF next offseason.
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Post#12 » by UTJazzFan_Echo1 » Tue Nov 3, 2009 6:16 pm

Has anyone else noticed the near total loss of the pick and roll in the offense? Or posting up our bigs?

I wouldn't be surprised if we post up Deron and Brewer more often than we post up Booze, Millsap or AK. It just seems like our bigs are getting the ball 15+ feet out when we should be pounding the ball inside on the block. Does someone have the games recorded that could go back and check how many times we posted up our bigs each game compared to how many times they took mid-range/outside shots? Or how many times our bigs actually did something productive when we posted them up?
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Post#13 » by UTJazzFan_Echo1 » Tue Nov 3, 2009 6:16 pm

sorry, forum exploded and double posted. My bad
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Post#14 » by QuantumMacgyver » Tue Nov 3, 2009 6:58 pm

UTJazzFan_Echo1 wrote:Has anyone else noticed the near total loss of the pick and roll in the offense? Or posting up our bigs?

I wouldn't be surprised if we post up Deron and Brewer more often than we post up Booze, Millsap or AK. It just seems like our bigs are getting the ball 15+ feet out when we should be pounding the ball inside on the block. Does someone have the games recorded that could go back and check how many times we posted up our bigs each game compared to how many times they took mid-range/outside shots? Or how many times our bigs actually did something productive when we posted them up?


I noticed this too. Especially in the fourth quarter. Does anyone else get the feeling that in the fourth quarter the Jazz are more focused on trying to pad Boozer's stats than win these games?
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Post#15 » by erudite23 » Tue Nov 3, 2009 7:27 pm

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UTJazzFan_Echo1 wrote:Has anyone else noticed the near total loss of the pick and roll in the offense? Or posting up our bigs?

I wouldn't be surprised if we post up Deron and Brewer more often than we post up Booze, Millsap or AK. It just seems like our bigs are getting the ball 15+ feet out when we should be pounding the ball inside on the block. Does someone have the games recorded that could go back and check how many times we posted up our bigs each game compared to how many times they took mid-range/outside shots? Or how many times our bigs actually did something productive when we posted them up?


I noticed this too. Especially in the fourth quarter. Does anyone else get the feeling that in the fourth quarter the Jazz are more focused on trying to pad Boozer's stats than win these games?



DWill has been doing too much penetration and was forcing shots last night. It didn't help that he can't buy a f**king call to save his soul, but the fact remains that he has been too shot happy so far. Boozer should get at last 10 paint touches, and we should be running the high P'n'R with him and Deron 20-25 times a game. For whatever reason, we have gone away from both. Its not coincedence that our offense has been lackluster.
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Post#16 » by hoops4life » Tue Nov 3, 2009 7:28 pm

I think that this is a little early. Let's wait until more than 3 games have been played.
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Post#17 » by Jazzy13 » Tue Nov 3, 2009 11:13 pm

Play Fesenko and Koufos more!! Problem solved! :D
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Post#18 » by gonzo » Wed Nov 4, 2009 4:03 am

Entertainment wise, yes.
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Post#19 » by UTJazzFan_Echo1 » Wed Nov 4, 2009 4:15 am

Are we still planning on waiting 2 more games or have we all agreed to give up now?
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