What's Sloan gotta do...

[kamazilla]

... to get fired?

Old conversation, I know- but seriously... What would he have to do to actually be fired by the Jazz? Allow the team to be humiliated by a three point onslaught at the hands of the Knicks? Lead 84-57 going into the forth at Boston only to watch the Celtics score 23 straight points before calling a time out then lose 96-89? Lose all of our road games in November?

Here is Marc Stein's take in this week's power rankings, which depressingly slot the Jazz two spots lower than the Bobcats.

"If Jerry Sloan weren't Jerry Sloan -- which is to say untouchable in the SLC -- his name would probably start coming up in coaches-under-pressure talk after home L's to the Rockets and Kings and the blown lead in Dallas."

I would have to agree- Sloan is untouchable, and wether you love his coaching or hate it, he's here to stay. Nothing short of sexual misconduct with an opposing team's mascot would get him off the bench. Thoughts?

[DiscoLives4ever]

Sodomize the entire Miller family and their dog. Twice.

[BarneyGumble]

Somebody at the Jazz FO will have to call the morgue and ask them to send someone to haul away Sloan's dead, cold corpse after he dies of extreme senility because he will never get fired and he will never resign.....

[Ming Kong!]

I'd say have the team come well below expectations atleast two years in a row, but can you say that the team has really ever done that?

[schneiderjazz]

Sloan will never get fired. He's gone only when he chooses to. I think the FO would trade Deron before firing Sloan.

[red4hf]

Just shows that there's such a thing as "loyalty" and then there's such a thing as "blind, foolish loyalty"......

[outerspacefella]

Jerry won the right to be untouchable a long time ago. That's just what loyalty is.
There's no such thing as "blind, foolish loyalty"... that would be just blindness or foolishness, and you don't mantain a competitive NBA team for a long time in a small market being blind or foolish.

[stevebozell]

you don't mantain a competitive NBA team for a long time in a small market being blind or foolish.

You dont not win a title with two hall of famers for a decade and a half on your roster....oh, wait.

[outerspacefella]

You mean when they had Jordan, the zebras, the entire NBA and the whole word against them?
Had Anderson (or was it Eisley... I don't really even want to remember it...) made that layups alone under the basket or Karl not misfired those clutch free throws, Sloan would have coached, without a doubt, the best championship run ever.

[stevebozell]

You Sloan homers never run out of excuses....you can make reasons for them not winning titles that were not his fault, and I will give you about a million reasons this franchise has been successful while being in a small market that have nothing to do with him.

[outerspacefella]

I don't think Sloan fans really need "excuses" for anything...
I don't need the teams I root for to be champions; I'd like that very much, I'd enjoy it very much, but winning is cretainly not what made me a fan of my teams.

You know, probably it would be in the best interest of the Jazz to just tank it this season and get Wall. Williams/Wall would be awesome to watch for years to come... or we can trade Wall to a team that really want him for a very high price... But I'm a Jazz fan mainly because they do things the way it's supposed to be... trying to win with who they have no matter what.

If a day comes in which te Jazz win it all, I will enjoy it in such a huge manner that no matter how many rings other teams have, it would be nothing compared with my kind of sport fan joy... and if that day doesn't come, I'll live my fan life in comfort knowing I root for the right thing.
That's just the way it is.

So you see, I don't really need any excuses...

[jazzed77]

I don't think anyone would argue that Sloan is a hard working, no nonsense, tough guy......I do think that the point of whether that outweighs the fact that his coaching style is no longer effective is debatable.....I for one feel that the game has passed him by....

[ColdBlue]

Jerry won the right to be untouchable a long time ago. That's just what loyalty is.
There's no such thing as "blind, foolish loyalty"... that would be just blindness or foolishness, and you don't mantain a competitive NBA team for a long time in a small market being blind or foolish.

I don't understand why people think loyalty is virtuous. I think loyalty is a cop-out for the weak pansies out there incapable of making a tough call.

Making a tough decision such as firing a Jerry Sloan when it is the right decision to do, is much more virtous than hiding behind terminology like 'the right to be untouchable'. What kind of nonsense is that?

I don't think Sloan is the problem though, but I do know he certainly isn't the solution.

[ColdBlue]

So you see, I don't really need any excuses...

Either does a leaf blowing in the wind, but I guess whatever does it for you...

[Soul Patch]

Sloan has given us a great foundation to build on. Whomever comes in to replace him really won't have to do much to be a winning coach just because of the system he runs. What other coach can you say that about? Phil Jackson and his triangle offense and Popovich. Sloan is a great coach before and after games but right now we need him to be more vocal and demanding during games because we don't have a player, like Duncan, that is an extension of the coach on the floor. Any championship contender needs that kind of player on the floor.

[outerspacefella]

I don't understand why people think loyalty is virtuous. I think loyalty is a cop-out for the weak pansies out there incapable of making a tough call.....

To be loyal to things that deserve it certainly is virtuous.
People and human organizations have the right to decide the way the behave, the way they fight for their goals. If loyalty is part of an organization culture, even when sometimes may be it would be a lot easier to go other way (easier, which is not always better...) then I'm ok with it.

[outerspacefella]

So you see, I don't really need any excuses...

Either does a leaf blowing in the wind, but I guess whatever does it for you...

That's the spirit!

[GP]

Sodomize the entire Miller family and their dog. Twice.

lol, I agree.

[outerspacefella]

Sloan has given us a great foundation to build on. Whomever comes in to replace him really won't have to do much to be a winning coach just because of the system he runs. What other coach can you say that about? Phil Jackson and his triangle offense and Popovich. Sloan is a great coach before and after games but right now we need him to be more vocal and demanding during games because we don't have a player, like Duncan, that is an extension of the coach on the floor. Any championship contender needs that kind of player on the floor.

Agreed.
However Phil Jackson's triangle is not actually "his", and the Spurs had to go deep down to get one of the most dominant big guys in modern basketball in Tim Duncan.

In 2002-2003, the Jazz was marked by all media as the team to get the less wins total in NBA history, but Sloan really "screwed it" going 42-40... that's what a bad coach does I guess.... The Jazz organization should have go the tank way and no one would have said a darn thing .. and the Jazz could have drafted James, Anthony or Wade.

In 2004-2005 the Jazz went 26-56... they could have easily tanked it and get huge chance to go for Howard in the draft....

Wade/Howard in a Jazz uni.... lol at that... yet dudes decided to go the right way... they competed every game to actually try to win it... amazing if you ask me.

Probably most people would call it (Please Use More Appropriate Word), stupid... I just loved they did it that way.... That's the way I want to enjoy a championship if it comes around.

[Soul Patch]

Yeah, I've always been stoked on out anti-tanking mindset. You should never approach a game with a mindset to lose.