Wesley Matthews

cedric76 · Post #1 » by **cedric76** » Sat Dec 5, 2009 9:37 am

can he keep this up?
mind telling me more about him?

weakness,stenght

thx

cedric76 · Post #2 » by **cedric76** » Sat Dec 5, 2009 2:16 pm

anyone?

schneiderjazz · Post #3 » by **schneiderjazz** » Sat Dec 5, 2009 3:18 pm

I believe he can keep it up. He can take the ball to the hole, he's a good finisher, a pretty good defender and he hustles like crazy. He's also shooting the ball pretty well, but I'd like to see at least 50 more games before I call him a good shooter.

carrottop12 · Post #4 » by **carrottop12** » Sat Dec 5, 2009 6:46 pm

There is no reason he can't keep it up. He's going to be inconsistent but he played a full college career so he is in better shape then most rookies so I don't see him hitting a rookie wall.

He's a good player.

Post #5 » by **jazzfan1971** » Sat Dec 5, 2009 6:56 pm

He's a very good system guy. Somewhat poor size and not the stellar athleticism to offset it, so that explains his not being drafted. But, he does a lot of things that are rewarded in a system. He shoots only system shots. He plays stellar system defense. Just a smart player.

His shot will improve with time, he's just a rookie after all. Not that he has a bad shot now, it could just use a little polish like about all rookies. But, as long as he is a guy that Sloan can count on to be where he's susposed to be, and do waht he's susposed to do, I think he'll continue to earn minutes. If he develops a deadly outside shot, he could easily be a fixture starting for the Jazz for the next decade.

carrottop12 · Post #6 » by **carrottop12** » Sat Dec 5, 2009 7:05 pm

He's one of the best defenders I've ever seen honestly. His hands on defense are amazing and his ability to guard players one on one is insane, he was giving Granger fits last night.

Racer X · Post #7 » by **Racer X** » Sat Dec 5, 2009 8:24 pm

I have a full blown basketboner for Wesley.

His ability to move his feet on defense is the best I have seen on the Jazz in my memory. Not only was he giving Danny Granger problems last night, he was frustrating the hell out of Brandon Roy during the Blazers game. Also, during the Indiana game, there were multiple times that Dhantay Jones tried to take him to the hole and was denied every time. Not to say that Jones is Michael Jordan or anything, but he is super athletic. All other Jazz defenders would have given up a layup.

Also his spot up 3 ability has been a huge surprise. He has reached the level where every time he pulls up I feel like its going in.

I desperately wish to keep him on the team.

Racer X · Post #8 » by **Racer X** » Sat Dec 5, 2009 8:25 pm

In fact, Wesley reminds me of a stronger, slightly more athletic Raja Bell. And that is a freaking compliment.

GP · Post #9 » by GP » Sat Dec 5, 2009 9:22 pm

Bat wrote:He's one of the best defenders I've ever seen honestly. His hands on defense are amazing and his ability to guard players one on one is insane, he was giving Granger fits last night.

Thats exactly what I was thinking last night too. I am used to watching the opposing team having that type of player guard the jazz, so it was weird to see it with a player in a jazz uniform. Mathews is a great steal and I think we are only seeing a fraction of his potential.

carrottop12 · Post #10 » by **carrottop12** » Sat Dec 5, 2009 9:43 pm

Honestly he's shown as much in his first 15 games as CJ Miles ever has in a Jazz uniform. He's a perfect complimentary scorer to Boozer, Okur and Deron, and he can guard the best wing on the opposing team and keep them busy. I'm not sure what more you can ask for out of a guy. I do think he'll sure up his three point shooting, and if that does indeed become the case he becomes something that every championship team tends to have.

He gives the Jazz a ton of options considering how much money we have time and roster space and potential salary cap tied up in Cj, Brewer, Korver and AK.

I agree with RacerX, I have a huge basketboner for Wes.

Post #11 » by **StocktonShorts** » Sat Dec 5, 2009 9:56 pm

He's Bryon Russell 2.0

Post #12 » by **DelaneyRudd** » Sat Dec 5, 2009 10:08 pm

He is Raja Bell 2.0.

There is something about defensive 2s that scouts must not be able to judge beforehand. They seem to be undervalued no other specialty.

carrottop12 · Post #13 » by **carrottop12** » Sat Dec 5, 2009 10:39 pm

DelaneyRudd wrote:He is Raja Bell 2.0.

There is something about defensive 2s that scouts must not be able to judge beforehand. They seem to be undervalued no other specialty.

Bruce Bowen, Raja Bell, Wes Matthews...

Not bad company.

Paper Face · Post #14 » by **Paper Face** » Sun Dec 6, 2009 1:02 am

Bat wrote:Honestly he's shown as much in his first 15 games as CJ Miles ever has in a Jazz uniform.

Sad, but overwhelmingly true.

It'd be nice if the Jazz stumbled upon a Battier-type player to compliment all the fire power they have.

cedric76 · Post #15 » by **cedric76** » Sun Dec 6, 2009 1:43 am

Wolverine · Post #16 » by **Wolverine** » Sun Dec 6, 2009 1:53 am

Who woulda thought Sloan starting not only a rookie but an undrafted one at that. Guys a keeper!

The Sheik · Post #17 » by **The Sheik** » Sun Dec 6, 2009 5:45 am

He has the potential to be Bruce Bowen 2.0. He slides his feet very well and has the potential to develop a consistent outside and mid-range shot. If you think back to some of the better or pesky defenders they were undrafted or late 2nd round picks. People dont draft defenders.

I think Matthews has put Korver or Brewer out of a job in Utah. However, I still think someone throws the MLE at Korver, but Brewer will likely get something in the CJ neighborhood.

Here is a great question. If Matthews comes back at say 1.5-2 mil per would you value Brewers age and athleticism or Korvers shooting? We are going to actually live through the Booz/Sap situation next off-season with Brewer and Korver.

d-will8 · Post #18 » by **d-will8** » Tue Dec 8, 2009 1:15 am

Wolverine wrote:Who woulda thought Sloan starting not only a rookie but an undrafted one at that. Guys a keeper!

Honestly, I think the fact that he's undrafted is helping him with Sloan. I don't mean to suggest that he hasn't done plenty of things on the court to earn the playing time he's gotten, but Sloan loves scrappy hard workers who haven't had anything handed to them (i.e., haven't been drafted in the first round , haven't gotten any hype and haven't received a guaranteed contract.)

I think with first rounders Sloan feels like he has to prove a point; he has to show them that he's in control, that their draft position is meaningless and that they will have to earn every second on the court. It's a good message, but the way that he gets it across isn't always in the team's best interests (i.e., playing McLeod and Palacio over Deron) in that some first round picks actually do earn minutes well before Jerry decides that he's made it sufficiently clear that they need to.

Having said all of that, I love Wes and believe that we need to keep him around for a while.

partnerfusion · Post #19 » by **partnerfusion** » Tue Dec 8, 2009 5:23 am

It's official - the guy is a stud and has made either CJ, Brewer or Korver expendable THIS season...

Nate505 · Post #20 » by **Nate505** » Tue Dec 8, 2009 5:30 pm

jazzfan1971 wrote:He's a very good system guy. Somewhat poor size and not the stellar athleticism to offset it, so that explains his not being drafted. But, he does a lot of things that are rewarded in a system. He shoots only system shots. He plays stellar system defense. Just a smart player.

Agreed. I do think he's athletic enough for this league, but not say the freak athlete Brewer is. That being said, he's amazingly smart for a rookie. He's patient and doesn't force a lot. And when he does start forcing and they aren't going in he stops real quick. He knows the system very well for such a short time to learn it, and seems to make the right passes.