Jazz Nets (double nets chance at Wall)

[Getjazz]

Jazz send Boozer and NY's 2010 Pick to the Nets for Lopez, Batti.e

Jazz get their Center and win now. The Nets get 2 top 5 picks. Land Wall, resign Boozer, and get another Center in this deep draft. EVERYONES A WINNER!!!!!

What do you think?

[HammerDunk]

And we're doing this with what money?

[Neon Black]

What about this.

http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.ph ... id=5328249

Simmons comes off the books giving us lots more cap room next year. Nets get quite a bit better this year and can either resign both players, work out a sign and trade or keep them, plus they still get their own pick which would probably still be decent. Also gives them more room to work with in next years free agent market.

Jazz might get little worse for the year but secure a promising young center that plays D.

Nets are crazy to do it, IMO

[seejaydeja]

What about this.

http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.ph ... id=5328249

Simmons comes off the books giving us lots more cap room next year. Nets get quite a bit better this year and can either resign both players, work out a sign and trade or keep them, plus they still get their own pick which would probably still be decent. Also gives them more room to work with in next years free agent market.

Jazz might get little worse for the year but secure a promising young center that plays D.

Nets are crazy to do it, IMO

i would so do this. I wouldn't take any young center in the league over this guy. He is going to dominate in 1-3 years. Jazz save A TON of money, clear up the log-jam at SG/SF for CJ and Wes and get probably the best center prospect in the league right now.

[edfmx86]

What about this.

http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.ph ... id=5328249

Simmons comes off the books giving us lots more cap room next year. Nets get quite a bit better this year and can either resign both players, work out a sign and trade or keep them, plus they still get their own pick which would probably still be decent. Also gives them more room to work with in next years free agent market.

Jazz might get little worse for the year but secure a promising young center that plays D.

Nets are crazy to do it, IMO

sign me up for this, but like many probably believe, Lopez will be the best center in the league in 2-3 years based on how he has been playing now. you dont just trade away talent like that.

[I am a Jazz Fan]

I'm all for a Boozer for Lopez deal, but I am strongly against losing Brewer. I would much rather trade Miles.

Brewer is too good defensively. He's one of the leaders in steals so far this season, last year he was 7th in the league in steals. And Miles is soft. Sure he's a great shooter and Brewer is actually a pretty poor shooter, but Brewer can play the base line, he's not afraid to take it to the rim, and he's got the size to guard guys like Kobe. Miles would get destroyed by a Kobe. Also, set up some sessions with Brewer and Hornaceck and Brewer's shooting would increase dramatically.

I'd also consider trading Korver instead of Miles just because Korver is sooooooooooo bad on defense. He got lost tonight, and i'm sure you've all seen the pics of him seizing up like a little girl as someone shoots over him.

Send Boozer and Miles for Lopez.

[Soul Patch]

What about this.

http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.ph ... id=5328249

Simmons comes off the books giving us lots more cap room next year. Nets get quite a bit better this year and can either resign both players, work out a sign and trade or keep them, plus they still get their own pick which would probably still be decent. Also gives them more room to work with in next years free agent market.

Jazz might get little worse for the year but secure a promising young center that plays D.

Nets are crazy to do it, IMO

I think we'd need to throw in the Knick's pick. I have a huge boner for Lopez. Throbbing veiny man meat pulsing at the thought of a center playing both sides of the floor very well being paired with Dwill.

[StocktonShorts]

I would trade the Knicks pick for Lopez.

[Matt007b]

same here i'm for it.

I think the 13 Nets fans in the stands last night would go ape...but financially and long term this is much better than letting boozer walk for nothing. IF he does..

[seejaydeja]

I think we'd need to throw in the Knick's pick. I have a huge boner for Lopez. Throbbing veiny man meat pulsing at the thought of a center playing both sides of the floor very well being paired with Dwill.

Good lord my friend, you should write erotic fiction

[seejaydeja]

I'm all for a Boozer for Lopez deal, but I am strongly against losing Brewer. I would much rather trade Miles.

Brewer is too good defensively. He's one of the leaders in steals so far this season, last year he was 7th in the league in steals. And Miles is soft. Sure he's a great shooter and Brewer is actually a pretty poor shooter, but Brewer can play the base line, he's not afraid to take it to the rim, and he's got the size to guard guys like Kobe. Miles would get destroyed by a Kobe. Also, set up some sessions with Brewer and Hornaceck and Brewer's shooting would increase dramatically.

I'd also consider trading Korver instead of Miles just because Korver is sooooooooooo bad on defense. He got lost tonight, and i'm sure you've all seen the pics of him seizing up like a little girl as someone shoots over him.

Send Boozer and Miles for Lopez.

Nets probably wouldn't do Brew + Booz let alone Booz + Miles.

Nobody is denying how good Brew is or how much we'd like to keep him, but how much is it gonna cost the jazz's already bloated payroll to extend him next season? This move clears up some cap, gives our young guns some court time to develop and gets BROOK **** LOPEZ.

We might lose some depth and probably wouldn't be much of a contender for a championship this year, but next year if the Jazz FO made the right moves, we could be deadly, just imagine the Okur/Lopez combo. Stretch a defense much?

[QuantumMacgyver]

No way the Nets do this. If we had Lopez would any of you trade him for a one year rental on Booz and Brew? Even through in the Knicks pick, is there anyone in the draft that has proven anything like Lopez has? Essentially they would be trading one of the most promising centers in the league for a chance at drafting a promising center. WOuld only happen if Isiah Thomas was the Nets GM. That being said I would make this trade plus 2 future number ones for Lopez.

[erudite23]

Lopez is a great prospect, but I question his ability to make it to elite status as a player. He may already be close to maxed out as is. He will be no more than a borderline 10ish rebound guy, which means you'll HAVE to pair him with a great rebounding 4 (or be forced to make it up with your backcourt) to avoid getting hammered on the boards. Millsap may or may not be that guy.

I love the guy, and I would seriously consider trading this NYK pick in a deal for him, but let's not get too carried away in man love for him. Right now Boozer is a better player than he is. While he does block shots, he is in no way a "good" defender atm. His shooting is unimpressive for a center. No, that's understating it. His shooting is HORRIBLE for a center right now. Show me another 5 in the league that plays primarily in the post and shoots only 48%. I don't think there is one. He has some serious question marks.


Still, he's very good and might be great. But I would take a healthy Greg Oden over him 100 times out of 100, as well as Bynum and maybe even Marc Gasol.

At this point, I'm favoring the idea of re-signing Boozer, getting Aldrich or Davis to pair him with in the frontcourt, and trading away Millsap and Memo. Boozer is just too damn good, and his defense has been markedly better this year. I have no desire to see him go.

[StocktonShorts]

At this point, I'm favoring the idea of re-signing Boozer, getting Aldrich or Davis to pair him with in the frontcourt, and trading away Millsap and Memo. Boozer is just too damn good, and his defense has been markedly better this year. I have no desire to see him go.

That's where I'm leaning as well. I think Boozer being out most of the year and then not being 100% when he did come back made a lot of us forget how gifted he really is on the offensive end. He may be the best pick-and-roll forward in the NBA.

[PDXKnight]

Why would NJ do this? Lopez is younger and has more potential. Boozer's a great player, but Lopez fits NJ's long-term plans better than Boozer does.

[StocktonShorts]

Why would NJ do this? Lopez is younger and has more potential. Boozer's a great player, but Lopez fits NJ's long-term plans better than Boozer does.

Good question. I thought maybe Bobby Simmons contract wasn't expiring and that's why this made sense... but he's off the books after this year.. soo.... really no deal here I don't think.

[Neon Black]

No it's not going to happen, but it's fun to dream. And honestly I would do want the Jazz to do this solely if Boozer was for sure on his way out; in that case we would do it in a sign and trade at the end of the season and the Nets/whoever else would get more than just a rental.

[schneiderjazz]

Lopez is a great prospect, but I question his ability to make it to elite status as a player. He may already be close to maxed out as is. He will be no more than a borderline 10ish rebound guy, which means you'll HAVE to pair him with a great rebounding 4 (or be forced to make it up with your backcourt) to avoid getting hammered on the boards. Millsap may or may not be that guy.

I love the guy, and I would seriously consider trading this NYK pick in a deal for him, but let's not get too carried away in man love for him. Right now Boozer is a better player than he is. While he does block shots, he is in no way a "good" defender atm. His shooting is unimpressive for a center. No, that's understating it. His shooting is HORRIBLE for a center right now. Show me another 5 in the league that plays primarily in the post and shoots only 48%. I don't think there is one. He has some serious question marks.


Still, he's very good and might be great. But I would take a healthy Greg Oden over him 100 times out of 100, as well as Bynum and maybe even Marc Gasol.

At this point, I'm favoring the idea of re-signing Boozer, getting Aldrich or Davis to pair him with in the frontcourt, and trading away Millsap and Memo. Boozer is just too damn good, and his defense has been markedly better this year. I have no desire to see him go.

First of all, let me say that I'm not a big fan of this trade. IMO we're giving up a little too much (Boozer and the Knicks pick for Lopez). But I have to disagree that Lopez shooting is horrible. He's basically their 1st option on offense. He has very little room to work, since the Nets are the worst shooting team in the league. Gasol, Bynum and Oden all have good 3 point shooters and guys who can create easy shots for them. Lopez, not so much. And also 26 games is a quite small sample.

[Soul Patch]

I think most players FG% would go up in Utah's system. Especially if you're a big man playing the pick n roll with Williams.

[lurkingobeiscity]

Lopez is a great prospect, but I question his ability to make it to elite status as a player. He may already be close to maxed out as is. He will be no more than a borderline 10ish rebound guy, which means you'll HAVE to pair him with a great rebounding 4 (or be forced to make it up with your backcourt) to avoid getting hammered on the boards. Millsap may or may not be that guy.

I love the guy, and I would seriously consider trading this NYK pick in a deal for him, but let's not get too carried away in man love for him. Right now Boozer is a better player than he is. While he does block shots, he is in no way a "good" defender atm. His shooting is unimpressive for a center. No, that's understating it. His shooting is HORRIBLE for a center right now. Show me another 5 in the league that plays primarily in the post and shoots only 48%. I don't think there is one. He has some serious question marks.


Still, he's very good and might be great. But I would take a healthy Greg Oden over him 100 times out of 100, as well as Bynum and maybe even Marc Gasol.

At this point, I'm favoring the idea of re-signing Boozer, getting Aldrich or Davis to pair him with in the frontcourt, and trading away Millsap and Memo. Boozer is just too damn good, and his defense has been markedly better this year. I have no desire to see him go.

First of all, let me say that I'm not a big fan of this trade. IMO we're giving up a little too much (Boozer and the Knicks pick for Lopez). But I have to disagree that Lopez shooting is horrible. He's basically their 1st option on offense. He has very little room to work, since the Nets are the worst shooting team in the league. Gasol, Bynum and Oden all have good 3 point shooters and guys who can create easy shots for them. Lopez, not so much. And also 26 games is a quite small sample.

I'd also add that while Lopez's FG% may be a tad low right now, his TS% is higher than Bogut, for example. His assisted FG% is at 52% (compared to Bynum's 66% or Boozer's 76%) and he hasn't played exclusively from the post like erudite implied. He has the green light to shoot 18-20 footers as well, since defenses pack the middle so aggressively against the Nets, and his FT% of 85% accurately portrays him as not only a good shooter, but an improving one as well.

And he is in every way a good defender.

You call him a prospect, and he may be only 21, but as of right now he's .3/.3 off of being 20/10 while being the help-side presence every team wants at center. The gap between where he is and elite is small and ever-shrinking.

EDIT: And there really is nothing the Jazz could offer that is worth Lopez.