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Utah Trades:
CJ Miles
Harpring's TPE

Utah Gets:
T Thomas
J Pargo

Chicago Trades:
T Thomas
J Pargo

Why for Chicago: Both Thomas and Pargo want to be traded in return they get a sg in CJ Miles and a TPE and also save about 1.5M

Why for Utah: Thomas has high potential and he is a good defensive player. He has some length for a PF and could matchup against Gasol if we play the Lakers in the playoffs.

You cant combine players and TPE's.

Can't combine the TPE and a player. It would need to be two separate deals: TPE for Thomas and CJ for Pargo. The CJ for Pargo part doesn't meet the requirements of the CBA, not within 25% plus 100K of salary (2.6-3.7).

This is an example from somebody from another forum.

A multi-player deal can only be done if part of it would satisfy the terms of the exception. For example, you couldn't trade Boozer + the Harpring exception for Deng and Hinrich. Deng is within 125% of Boozer's salary, but Hinrich's salary is more than the Harpring exception. But you could trade Boozer and the exception for Deng and any player up to $6.6M (Thomas, for example).

It also works out on the espn trade machine:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=yhssuq3

Thomas does nothing for this team and plays no minutes. CJ is a talented idiot. The Jazz are just going to ride out CJ and hope he matures.

CJ sucks....if you can get rid of him, you do it.

If this works, then i'm all for it. If we can luck into GIVING him to somebody, I'm all for it. This just seems like a complete steal for Jazz

HolyToledo wrote:Thomas does nothing for this team and plays no minutes. CJ is a talented idiot. The Jazz are just going to ride out CJ and hope he matures.

I agree. I have a hard time seeing where Tyrus would get minutes unless the Jazz deal Boozer; and I don't think the Jazz are going to deal Boozer.

Furthermore CJ put together a couple of nice games before the break, probably just good enough to convince the Jazz to give him another shot.

Shocker00 wrote:This is an example from somebody from another forum.

A multi-player deal can only be done if part of it would satisfy the terms of the exception. For example, you couldn't trade Boozer + the Harpring exception for Deng and Hinrich. Deng is within 125% of Boozer's salary, but Hinrich's salary is more than the Harpring exception. But you could trade Boozer and the exception for Deng and any player up to $6.6M (Thomas, for example).

It also works out on the espn trade machine:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=yhssuq3

Right--and it only works because you are in essence doing to two trades separately--Boozer for Deng (which works) and the TPE for Thomas (which also works independently). One could report this as Boozer and the TPE for Thomas and Deng--but that would only be layman's terms.

Fido wrote:

Shocker00 wrote:This is an example from somebody from another forum.

A multi-player deal can only be done if part of it would satisfy the terms of the exception. For example, you couldn't trade Boozer + the Harpring exception for Deng and Hinrich. Deng is within 125% of Boozer's salary, but Hinrich's salary is more than the Harpring exception. But you could trade Boozer and the exception for Deng and any player up to $6.6M (Thomas, for example).

It also works out on the espn trade machine:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=yhssuq3

Right--and it only works because you are in essence doing to two trades separately--Boozer for Deng (which works) and the TPE for Thomas (which also works independently). One could report this as Boozer and the TPE for Thomas and Deng--but that would only be layman's terms.

That trade would blow up the salary structure for next season, unfortunately. Boozer for the tyrus thomas, tim thomas expiring and a first round draft pick. The Jazz save a million plus off the luxury tax.

If the Jazz no for a fact Boozer wont be back then I would deal him and CJ to Chicago for Thomas, James and Johnson. Jazz would save 6 mil in the deal as well and get a prospect they liked pre-draft in James Johnson.

HolyToledo wrote:Thomas does nothing for this team and plays no minutes. CJ is a talented idiot. The Jazz are just going to ride out CJ and hope he matures.

I think your wrong in my opinion. Here is why:

1) Boozer/Millsap has allowed Gasol to shoot around 74% over the last couple years against us. They're just too small.
2) L Odom has a very high shooting % against the Jazz as well.
3) C Boozer shoots about 45% against the Lakers in the same time span. That is about 30% differential in the post.

If T Thomas could hold Gasol to around 60% shooting because he matches up well defensively while shooting 45% the jazz are much better off against the Lakers than if they used Boozer...Ohh wait, I forget that everyone from Utah just wants offense.

HappyProle wrote:

HolyToledo wrote:Thomas does nothing for this team and plays no minutes. CJ is a talented idiot. The Jazz are just going to ride out CJ and hope he matures.

I agree. I have a hard time seeing where Tyrus would get minutes unless the Jazz deal Boozer; and I don't think the Jazz are going to deal Boozer.

Furthermore CJ put together a couple of nice games before the break, probably just good enough to convince the Jazz to give him another shot.

Or it could help to increase his trade value. I hope the Jazz realize this and don't do something foolish by holding onto CJ. He has had his time here.

TT would be a good pickup for us if we were willing to take on the extra salary or if the Bulls would do it for a TPE, both of which I doubt.