Trade with Boston

TheOGJabroni · Post #1 » by **TheOGJabroni** » Wed Jul 8, 2009 3:44 pm

Hey OKC fans.

I'm a Celtic's fan but I post on this board often because I am a huge fan of Kevin Durant, my favorite non-Celtic. I think this guy can be one of the purest, greatest scorers the league has ever seen. Having said that, the Celtics are in need of a backup to Paul Pierce (and no I am not suggesting you trade us Kevin Durant). Instead, I was wondering what it would take to pry away Thabo Sefolosha from your team. I know your team is a little weak at your swingman positions and you have no vet. PG's you actually like on your team, so if this offer was presented to you, would you take it?

Thabo Sefolosha

for

JR Giddens
Gabe Pruitt
Future 2nd Round pick

It has been noted that JR Giddens has been lighting it up in this offseason. He is a terrific athlete and shows tons of potential. Gabe Pruitt has shown he can be a solid defender at the PG position. His stats do not indicate it, but he has a silky smooth J that IMO would be a threat if he was given time to play, which I feel he would more in OKC than in Boston. The 2nd Rounder is just icing. What are your thoughts?

wiff · Post #2 » by **wiff** » Wed Jul 8, 2009 5:03 pm

How do the Thunder improve?

The Thunder give up Thabo a guy who demonstrated last season if he is given the minutes he is a borderline starter.

For two guys who I know very little about and I follow the league pretty closely.

But considering Earl Watson who is still currently on the roster at 6+mil, Atkins, Livingston and Weaver who has shown he can play minutes at pg if needed.

You are talking about trading away Thabo for a guy who at best is only going to see 15minutes a night and that is if they can beat out all the rest of the back up pg's.

Plus the Thunder are already sitting at 15 players so this trade would put them over the number of guys they can carry so they would in essence have to cut someone for a guy who would only see time sparingly.

It just doesn't make any sense for the Thunder to load up more PG's when they already have basically 4 backups at the pg currently on the roster.

TheOGJabroni · Post #3 » by **TheOGJabroni** » Wed Jul 8, 2009 7:02 pm

wiff wrote:How do the Thunder improve?

The Thunder give up Thabo a guy who demonstrated last season if he is given the minutes he is a borderline starter.

For two guys who I know very little about and I follow the league pretty closely.

But considering Earl Watson who is still currently on the roster at 6+mil, Atkins, Livingston and Weaver who has shown he can play minutes at pg if needed.

You are talking about trading away Thabo for a guy who at best is only going to see 15minutes a night and that is if they can beat out all the rest of the back up pg's.

Plus the Thunder are already sitting at 15 players so this trade would put them over the number of guys they can carry so they would in essence have to cut someone for a guy who would only see time sparingly.

It just doesn't make any sense for the Thunder to load up more PG's when they already have basically 4 backups at the pg currently on the roster.

Thabo, to me, seems like a piece a team that is contending would like to come off the bench (much like what I would want him to do for the C's). Although you may know very little about these two players, they both seem to better shooters than Thabo and IMO of course, I feel JR Giddens could be very similar to what Thabo is now, but maybe a better shooter, which the Thunder definitely need. But I do see your point, I didn't realize there were so many players under contract for you next year.

Realistically speaking, what exactly would it take for the C's to get Thabo from OKC? Any possibilities? Would there need to be a third team involved?

wiff · Post #4 » by **wiff** » Wed Jul 8, 2009 7:25 pm

Realisticlly speaking I don't really see it happening unless Boston wants to give up a first round pick three years from now when the big three are all out of Boston.

I agree with you that Thabo is the kind of guy a contending team would love to come off the bench. So if the goal is to be a contending team why let him go?

TheOGJabroni · Post #5 » by **TheOGJabroni** » Thu Jul 9, 2009 1:51 am

wiff wrote:Realisticlly speaking I don't really see it happening unless Boston wants to give up a first round pick three years from now when the big three are all out of Boston.

I agree with you that Thabo is the kind of guy a contending team would love to come off the bench. So if the goal is to be a contending team why let him go?

Right, but OKC is not ready to contend. That should be every team's goal but you've got to be realistic. A few years down the road when maybe of these young players are hitting their prime, then of course but now right now. I love the team you've put together but they are not ready to contend yet.

But you probably are right, Thabo to the C's seems unlikely unless if it was my first mentioned deal.

jarrettjackfan · Post #6 » by **jarrettjackfan** » Thu Jul 9, 2009 2:20 am

I don't think the Thunder would be interested in this trade. Sefolosha is a great young player that excels on defense, and is polishing up his offensive game, and could turn out to be a good NBA start/rotation player. Pruitt would be a bench player, and as for Giddens I honestly can't say I've seen him play to much, but I just don't think the Thunder would do that deal.

Clangus · Post #7 » by **Clangus** » Thu Jul 9, 2009 4:14 am

this would be a steal for the C's.

I do enjoy your visits though bosFcelts

IanChang · Post #8 » by **IanChang** » Thu Jul 9, 2009 9:14 am

You say we got to be realistic, then there is no way the OKC will trade a good backup player like Thabo for two unproven guards. To tell the truth, most of the young guys in Celtics are too raw, obviously your idea for this trade is too much on the Boston's side.

TheOGJabroni · Post #9 » by **TheOGJabroni** » Thu Jul 9, 2009 3:15 pm

Clangus wrote:this would be a steal for the C's.

I do enjoy your visits though bosFcelts

Thank you Clangus.

IanChang wrote:You say we got to be realistic, then there is no way the OKC will trade a good backup player like Thabo for two unproven guards. To tell the truth, most of the young guys in Celtics are too raw, obviously your idea for this trade is too much on the Boston's side.

You both are probably right. It would be a steal benefiting the C's but I just came here to see what kind of a deal it would take for OKC to give up Thabo because he could really help put the C's over the top IMO. But looking at salaries, that's pretty much all the C's could really offer outside of someone like Rondo, or even Perk if we were to make this a larger deal, but there is obviously just no way Boston would do that. So you're right, no trade. Guess the C's will have to continue their search for Paul's backup somewhere else.

wiff · Post #10 » by **wiff** » Thu Jul 9, 2009 3:53 pm

To me Thabo is a bit like Ariza. Great defender who can get streaky from beyond the arc.

But Ariza was drafted in the second round.

Honestly I'd say this type of player is the easiest to find in the league. I don't want to take away how valuable they are to a team but they are easy to find.

You might try to see what Portland wants to do with Travis Outlaw.

Desmond Mason is a free agent.

Guys are out there.

TheOGJabroni · Post #11 » by **TheOGJabroni** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:43 am

wiff wrote:To me Thabo is a bit like Ariza. Great defender who can get streaky from beyond the arc.

But Ariza was drafted in the second round.

Honestly I'd say this type of player is the easiest to find in the league. I don't want to take away how valuable they are to a team but they are easy to find.

You might try to see what Portland wants to do with Travis Outlaw.

Desmond Mason is a free agent.

Guys are out there.

Yeah people on the Celtic's board have high regards for Travis Outlaw. I was hoping when it looked like the Blazers were acquiring Hedo, he'd become more expendable.

How is Mason doing? Any updates on him?

Post #12 » by **wizkid27** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:54 am

Towards the end of the season Mason was almost in the full practices with the team. I would guess he's pretty much back to where he was at before. With him, you're going to get what you see... no more, no less. He's a very solid defender, great team guy, still a good athlete. Not much offense (in the way of scoring). I could see him being a valuable role player to a top team. Outside of the whole OSU/OKC connection, he doesn't have a ton of value to this team. He would eat up all of Weaver's minutes if they decide to bring him back, and we'd probably end up with another 2 wins because of it, but I don't think it's worth it at this point.