Oklahoma City Thunder @ Orlando Magic 11/18/09

[Clangus]

Sorry, I'm experiencing severe Gortat envy..

Me and you both.

Ibaka is like a pet. We all love his energy, even if it is often not used wisely.

[Clangus]

right that me done
I cant take any more

[slick_watts]

Watching games like this builds character.

[dre_1614]

Still don't understand the love for Serge Ibaka, this guy looks lost almost all the time. Lots of guys are athletic, he has to learn how to play basketball. Should be in D-League.

D-League hasn't started yet.

[slick_watts]

YMCA then.

[wizkid27]

I haven't given up on watching a game this season, and I don't think even any of last season... but tonight just frustrated me in no end. Interested in hearing what you all have to say, but I can't stress out over this anymore, the team looks awful.

[slick_watts]

We might actually lose by less than 10 if this keeps up.

[slick_watts]

Well at least our scrubs outplayed their scrubs. Don't know where to start with this one, at least James Harden was making it rain.

Pretty lousy effort by everyone. Saw some really lazy defense especially on the interior / closing the gaps. Jeff Green had a miserable game on both ends.

[dre_1614]

I missed the last 3 quarters. Tired and a bad headache, plus team playing like dogs **** does that to me .:/

[wizkid27]

slick, I think that's 4 or 5 games in a row that Green just REALLY has not looked good. Right now, it's not looking to him to be a second option, it's trying to get him to be anything other than a 5th option spot-up 3 pt shooter.

Harden definitely had a great game though. Too bad nobody was there to give him any help. Hopefully some good will come away from this game in the manner of James figuring out that he can score at this level. If we get some scoring off of the bench, it will serve as a spark to get things going on nights that start slow like this one.

[wiff]

You know Ibaka may not be perfect but the kid actually plays "D". He is willing to set screens all night so his teammates can get open. He has a nice second jump off the floor. Against Orlando he jumped to bother Gortat and he passed it to Lewis. Lewis immediately went up for a little jumper and Ibaka landed turned around jumped up and tipped it.

Nenad, Etan or Collison can't make a play like that.

Like the rest of this team he is young, only 20. He'll get better and the game will slow down for him.

If he needs to be in the D-League then why is he getting minutes over DJ White?

[slick_watts]

Ibaka's almost always out of position on defense. He's had an illegal defense three times already this year, fouls too much, and although the energy and effort is there he doesn't seem to play with much intelligence. It'll get better, but at this juncture I can't think of why he's playing important minutes.. he makes a couple nice plays but does more harm than good it seems.

I do not know why he is getting minutes over D.J. White. Whenever he gets minutes White seems to produce, and he doesn't foul as much or make as many mistakes as Ibaka.