[wiff]

So here's a tidbit off the wiretap.

Signing Durant to the maximum deal allowed is a no-brainer, but the Oklahoman writes that the Thunder might be better served to allow Green to become a restricted free agent next summer.

http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wireta ... estricted/

It would be the cautious move to do. It would also allow Presti to throw the fat money to Durant and Westbrook first and then let the market decide on what Green is worth.

The only problem with this approach is Green could have his ego bruised a bit. But what can you do? It's a business.

Or someone could overpay for Green but that's the risk they must be willing to make.

[slick_watts]

Been advocating this for awhile. It'd be stupid to extend Jeff Green. He didn't improve at all from year 2 to year 3, why reward the guy by over paying him? He's not going to sign a cheap extension...

Let him play out the year and the team can figure out where he fits. He'll probably want a starting spot long term and I doubt he gets that here at PF unless he grows his arms a few inches. Some other team can overpay Green.

Spurs model - pay and extend your three core players - replace the role players if necessary - NEVER overpay the role players. Spurs just violated the last rule trading for Richard Jefferson, whole lot of good that did them. We have Durant and Westbrook. We need that third piece, might be Ibaka or Harden but it's too soon to tell.

It's definitely not Jeff Green.. let him go RFA, if we can get him for MLE or thereabouts maybe he's worth it.

[wiff]

Well I guess the other risk is that Green couuld come back and stroke the three ball well and improve his shooting %'s and then get offered a decent sized contract.

I would still be willing to take that chance though.

[Big_Mac79]

But should Jeff Green take that risk?
Let's see you could resign right now being the starter for what ever Presti is willing to offer (7-8 mill)
Or risk the losing your starting spot this season and Ibaka taking over and the market setting your worth at 5-6 for shorter number of years

I hope he settles for long term security and signs on the cheap this year

[slick_watts]

I don't think Jeff Green has claimed the starting spot for long term by any stretch, and there's no reason to pay him until his role on this team is determined. Now if they continue to start him and play him big minutes and he still does not produce, it becomes an easy decision.

Paying him now would be the gamble. Whatever you give him, you're hoping he produces enough to justify the contract. And it won't be peanuts, Green's agent is David Falk. There won't be any discounts here...

[cram]

Trade him and another piece (pick, harden, ibaka, whatever) for Chris Bosh and you guys have the best trio in the league for the next 5 yrs. It would be ridiculous.

Would also pull quite a few fans from Texas.

[Yoshi2kx]

lol @ trading valuable core pieces for Bosh

[cram]

lol @ trading valuable core pieces for Bosh

Bosh is arguably hte best PF in the league and he's young. Pair him with Durant and Harden and you have your world class trio.

Green is a very nice player, but he's not and will never be the best at his position.

[wiff]

He is laughing because Bosh is an unrestricted free agent. Which means he can simply walk away from Toronto and leave them with nothing.

OKC is just shy of being able to give out a max contract. So really OKC could toss out their Byron Mullens and DJ Whites and Toronto would have a huge smile of their face because Bosh could leave this with ZERO return.

But OKC isn't going to carry two max contracts(Bosh and Durant) and Westbrook and have money left to re-sign Harden and Ibaka.

So Bosh makes absolutely no sense coming to OKC.

So let me repeat. LOL @ trading valuable core pieces for Bosh.

[Balkman32]

The Thunder will extend Durant! They will let Jeff Green hit the RFA mrket. If he gets a boat load they will probally not match. But, this lets the Thunder see his worth around the league.

He should win 6th man of the year award next season, since the Thunder must get a PF this year to help the front court.

[cram]

He is laughing because Bosh is an unrestricted free agent. Which means he can simply walk away from Toronto and leave them with nothing.

OKC is just shy of being able to give out a max contract. So really OKC could toss out their Byron Mullens and DJ Whites and Toronto would have a huge smile of their face because Bosh could leave this with ZERO return.

But OKC isn't going to carry two max contracts(Bosh and Durant) and Westbrook and have money left to re-sign Harden and Ibaka.

So Bosh makes absolutely no sense coming to OKC.

So let me repeat. LOL @ trading valuable core pieces for Bosh.

I wouldn't "LOL".

Look - if you guys are talking about paying Green to come off your bench, then whoever you have starting at PF + Green is going to cost more than Bosh.

You have the potential to put the best young PF in the game alongside the second best SF (and probably the 2nd best player in the league). Combine that with Westbrook, Thabo, and Ibaka and you have a team that likely wins several championships. 3 offensive studs with 2 defensive studs. It would be like showtime all over again.

[wiff]

I wouldn't "LOL".

Look - if you guys are talking about paying Green to come off your bench, then whoever you have starting at PF + Green is going to cost more than Bosh.

Really? Bosh is looking for an extenstion to his current deal. If that goes down Bosh will be making 17+mil next year and it continues to go up every year and will end up around 22mil in another four years.

Lets see the new CBA is coming out looking to cut salary. But even if Jeff Green is making 9mil (way over what he will be paid in OKC) but thay would kick in during the 2012/13 season and Ibaka will only be in his 4 year of his rookie deal which they will use their options on him at a whooping 2.2mil.

So even by grossly over paying for Jeff Green in this hypothetical the Thunder still save around a mere 9mil.

So you might want to check your numbers man.

And again Bosh doesn't work in OKC. Won't happen, no way, now how.

[cram]

Really? Bosh is looking for an extenstion to his current deal. If that goes down Bosh will be making 17+mil next year and it continues to go up every year and will end up around 22mil in another four years.

Lets see the new CBA is coming out looking to cut salary. But even if Jeff Green is making 9mil (way over what he will be paid in OKC) but thay would kick in during the 2012/13 season and Ibaka will only be in his 4 year of his rookie deal which they will use their options on him at a whooping 2.2mil.

So even by grossly over paying for Jeff Green in this hypothetical the Thunder still save around a mere 9mil.

So you might want to check your numbers man.

And again Bosh doesn't work in OKC. Won't happen, no way, now how.

I think Bosh's extension starts at 16ish and goes up to 20ish..
Whether more or not.....if Green gets 7-9mm, and you have a different starter playing in front of him, you have some serious dough locked up at the PF position whether its in the form of a max player or two non-max but very good players.

Every great team in the league has 2+ max players. Why do you think OKC couldn't do the same? Durant + Bosh + Westbrook, Thabo, and Ibaka is a monstrously good lineup. Its Dynastyville.

Do you honestly prefer Green to Bosh? Or Green + whoever you get at PF in front of him to Bosh???

[Yoshi2kx]

Yes, because Bosh simply does not fit in.

[wiff]

I think Bosh's extension starts at 16ish and goes up to 20ish..
Whether more or not.....if Green gets 7-9mm, and you have a different starter playing in front of him, you have some serious dough locked up at the PF position whether its in the form of a max player or two non-max but very good players.

Every great team in the league has 2+ max players. Why do you think OKC couldn't do the same? Durant + Bosh + Westbrook, Thabo, and Ibaka is a monstrously good lineup. Its Dynastyville.

Do you honestly prefer Green to Bosh? Or Green + whoever you get at PF in front of him to Bosh???

Dude Bosh's extenstion starts at $17,149,243.
year 2 $18,637,400.
year 3 $20,240,216.
year 4 $21,980,875.
year 5 $23,871,230.

Now do you see those numbers? THAT IS SIMPLY OVERPAYING FOR BOSH!

Bosh at 12-14mil? Sure sign me up. Bosh at 20+mil no way you are simply nuts.

So in three years like I said before even if Green is grossly over paid he and ibaka are a freakin bargain compared to Bosh. Bosh to OKC is and has been the dumbest rumor for the last two seasons on this board. It's not going to happen.

Every great team has two max players huh? Who is the second max player for the Spurs? Both Parker and "The Nose" have nice contracts but they are not max contracts.