Bucks/Thunder Trade

[spearsy23]

Yeah, comparing him to a young Ray or Reggie is completely insane...

http://bkref.com/pi/shareit/EGWZk

http://bkref.com/pi/shareit/KvVzL

.... I can't help but notice you've accidentally used Allen's rookie year to compare with Lamb's 2nd season, and ,quite by mistake I'm sure, used per 36 minute stats.

In all fairness lamb only plate 130 garbage time NBA minutes last year. I know its technically his second year but I have a hard time calling this his second season when he wasn't even playing in the NBA last year.

If he'd been Ray Allen he wouldn't have been in the D-league though. People seem to think I'm really low on Lamb, this isn't true at all, I've been a major supporter of keeping him out of any trades and definitely preferred letting Martin walk to trading Lamb. I really love the kid and think he's the perfect compliment to our 3 person core. That said, I'm not going to go overboard, he's been superb in his role but has a lot of improvement (and time to improve) before he compares favorably to a hall of famer like Allen. I really hope Lamb and Adams are our future and we have 1-5 be guys who grew up in OKC. It's a special team to watch already and I love getting to see an amazing product and watch these youngsters grow.

[GREENE1148]

Yeah, comparing him to a young Ray or Reggie is completely insane...

http://bkref.com/pi/shareit/EGWZk

http://bkref.com/pi/shareit/KvVzL

.... I can't help but notice you've accidentally used Allen's rookie year to compare with Lamb's 2nd season, and ,quite by mistake I'm sure, used per 36 minute stats.

Accidently? No, I deliberately compared their age 21 season stats, that's more important in terms of development/projection than Rookie/Sophomore distinctions... Reggie Millers Rookie season he was 22, hence why I couldn't compare his age 21 season...

[spearsy23]

Yeah, comparing him to a young Ray or Reggie is completely insane...

http://bkref.com/pi/shareit/EGWZk

http://bkref.com/pi/shareit/KvVzL

.... I can't help but notice you've accidentally used Allen's rookie year to compare with Lamb's 2nd season, and ,quite by mistake I'm sure, used per 36 minute stats.

Accidently? No, I deliberately compared their age 21 season stats, that's more important in terms of development/projection than Rookie/Sophomore distinctions... Reggie Millers Rookie season he was 22, hence why I couldn't compare his age 21 season...

Chronological age is more important than NBA status? That's asinine. Playing with the best players in the world makes you much better than getting a year older.

[GREENE1148]

.... I can't help but notice you've accidentally used Allen's rookie year to compare with Lamb's 2nd season, and ,quite by mistake I'm sure, used per 36 minute stats.

Accidently? No, I deliberately compared their age 21 season stats, that's more important in terms of development/projection than Rookie/Sophomore distinctions... Reggie Millers Rookie season he was 22, hence why I couldn't compare his age 21 season...

Chronological age is more important than NBA status? That's asinine. Playing with the best players in the world makes you much better than getting a year older.

And Lamb is playing with the best players in the world at the same age Ray Allen was, not sure what your argument is???

[spearsy23]

That's the point, lamb's already had a year playing with Kevin Durant and access to the best personal trainers and coaches money can buy. That's how you get better, compare them as they actually are, Lamb is a 2nd year player, Allen was putting up almost 20 per game in his second year and was a more versatile player.

[GREENE1148]

That's the point, lamb's already had a year playing with Kevin Durant and access to the best personal trainers and coaches money can buy. That's how you get better, compare them as they actually are, Lamb is a 2nd year player, Allen was putting up almost 20 per game in his second year and was a more versatile player.

That's pretty arguable, I'm not sure if you are just ignorant or what, but the highest paid coach in basketball is actually a college coach... Top College programs are willing to spend huge money on coaches, trainers and facilities because that's the only way they can attract the top recruits, they can't just pay them like they do in the NBA. And Ray Allen spent 3 years under one of the greatest college coaches in history... To Lambs 2.

[Joest2003]

That's the point, lamb's already had a year playing with Kevin Durant and access to the best personal trainers and coaches money can buy. That's how you get better, compare them as they actually are, Lamb is a 2nd year player, Allen was putting up almost 20 per game in his second year and was a more versatile player.

That's pretty arguable, I'm not sure if you are just ignorant or what, but the highest paid coach in basketball is actually a college coach... Top College programs are willing to spend huge money on coaches, trainers and facilities because that's the only way they can attract the top recruits, they can't just pay them like they do in the NBA. And Ray Allen spent 3 years under one of the greatest college coaches in history... To Lambs 2.

you nailed it on this, coach Calhoun is the reason Ray is who he is today.

[Envelopes]

I would think you get more training in before you go to the NBA, this is why not all players leave after one year.

Why else would they but off getting paid?

[spearsy23]

That's the point, lamb's already had a year playing with Kevin Durant and access to the best personal trainers and coaches money can buy. That's how you get better, compare them as they actually are, Lamb is a 2nd year player, Allen was putting up almost 20 per game in his second year and was a more versatile player.

That's pretty arguable, I'm not sure if you are just ignorant or what, but the highest paid coach in basketball is actually a college coach... Top College programs are willing to spend huge money on coaches, trainers and facilities because that's the only way they can attract the top recruits, they can't just pay them like they do in the NBA. And Ray Allen spent 3 years under one of the greatest college coaches in history... To Lambs 2.

The head coach at a college institution is paid so highly because they have significantly more responsibilities and are the face of the team. Nba teams have access to a LOT of much more specialized coaches, shooting coaches, strength and conditionng coaches, video coordinators, etc. There's a reason almost every NBA player says it takes at least a year before the game slows down for them, and that's rather they've played 4 years in college or jumped straight from high school.

I would think you get more training in before you go to the NBA, this is why not all players leave after one year.

Why else would they but off getting paid?

A lot of reasons, especially draft position. When a player puts off getting paid it's generally because he's not as good as the top draft picks in the first year, but by staying and playing while the top guys leave he's going to look better almost by default. And note that while there's a lot more development that takes place during a rookie's first year in relation to college, there's a way bigger difference between college and high school.