11/10 - POSTGAME | LA Clippers (111) - (120) Oklahoma City Thunder

[bondom34]

Its not just that, but it's been everywhere, from the name to not a single positive thing this entire season being said about him. And yeah it's a little different than calling a rival player a nickname. You generally don't make derogatory nicknames for players you area fan of.

i don't recall any having anyone problem with me calling caron butler 'pet rock'. or serge ibaka 'serge bargnani'. except royce young.

I know you're not a fan of him though, but the point stands.

i'm definitely not a fan of his behavior on the court lately, and i am not a fan of his leadership style. but he's on the team i like so i hope he can change those things for the better and improve the thunder's chances of winning games. does being a fan of the thunder obligate me to withhold criticism of baron?

The general point is (and not just you) but a lot of people seem to have turned a bit on Russ after 10 bad games.

fans of okc should be disappointed with his play, and in my opinion should be aware that his style of leadership in moments of adversity this season may not be optimal.

i really don't see the issue here. if he plays better and gets his head on straight he'll be beloved once more.

Dom, do you not get tired of some of the dumb **** that Russ does? Like when he doesn't even try to stay with his man on defense and instead is free lancing looking to double down on the post looking for steals?

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Yes.

But:

It’s hard to be “real” about what problems are or to talk about shortcomings “openly” when you wont even refer to the person in question by their actual name. When you refer to Russell by that name it makes everything you say afterward seem just a little insincere and not particularly objective.

This. If you called him "jackass' every post I'd feel the same. If you called him Russ and just said, hey Russ has sucked and done some dumb crap, it feels entirely different to most people.

One way of doing it is using critique, the other is coming across as condescending to a player who frankly is the best player on the team when he's playing close to his best.

[slick_watts]

This. If you called him "jackass' every post I'd feel the same. If you called him Russ and just said, hey Russ has sucked and done some dumb crap, it feels entirely different to most people.

One way of doing it is using critique, the other is coming across as condescending to a player who frankly is the best player on the team when he's playing close to his best.

i'm a fan of this team and i can be as condescending towards the players as i want. there's plenty of content in my posts about baron- there's no need for this virtual town hall meeting on what nicknames are appropriate. it's a red herring and not worth my time to debate further.

if this is somehow against the rules i'll take my posting elsewhere.

[bondom34]

This. If you called him "jackass' every post I'd feel the same. If you called him Russ and just said, hey Russ has sucked and done some dumb crap, it feels entirely different to most people.

One way of doing it is using critique, the other is coming across as condescending to a player who frankly is the best player on the team when he's playing close to his best.

i'm a fan of this team and i can be as condescending towards the players as i want. there's plenty of content in my posts about baron- there's no need for this virtual town hall meeting on what nicknames are appropriate. it's a red herring and not worth my time to debate further.

if this is somehow against the rules i'll take my posting elsewhere.

I don't think I ever said it was against the rules . I said it was condescending. So it seem like we agree. It just takes away from what generally are high quality posts. Honestly for me (and again, you're free to continue) it just takes a high quality post and makes it read as if it's a much lower quality. You know I think well of your opinions in general J, it just comes across that way.

[slick_watts]

So it seem like we agree. It just takes away from what generally are high quality posts.

we don't agree on this point- and i think baron westbrook is amusing! makes me chuckle.

[bondom34]

So it seem like we agree. It just takes away from what generally are high quality posts.

we don't agree on this point- and i think baron westbrook is amusing! makes me chuckle.

I think you're reasonably alone. But that's OK too.

[slick_watts]

So it seem like we agree. It just takes away from what generally are high quality posts.

we don't agree on this point- and i think baron westbrook is amusing! makes me chuckle.

I think you're reasonably alone. But that's OK too.

great art isn't always appreciated in its own time.

[Atomic Punk]

we don't agree on this point- and i think baron westbrook is amusing! makes me chuckle.

I think you're reasonably alone. But that's OK too.

great art isn't always appreciated in its own time.

Neither are pretentiousness and arrogance

[ThunderTime]

we don't agree on this point- and i think baron westbrook is amusing! makes me chuckle.

I think you're reasonably alone. But that's OK too.

great art isn't always appreciated in its own time.

The baron thing just isnt really working, not that funny or clever. Try again...

[Pillendreher]

we don't agree on this point- and i think baron westbrook is amusing! makes me chuckle.

I think you're reasonably alone. But that's OK too.

great art isn't always appreciated in its own time.

Don't let them bring you down. #ImWithHim

[oken]

forum sometimes looks like a retirement home with retired ones name-calling the new generation's irritating habits and other trivia


(just kidding we love you both.. as our elders of course. )
#respectfortheretired