11/20 - POSTGAME | Oklahoma City Thunder (107) - (114) New Orleans Pelicans

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Player(s) of the Game

Paul George | 26 PTS (9-17 FG. 6-10 3P), 5 REB, 4 AST 5 STL
6
40%
Carmelo Anthony | 16 PTS (6-18 FG), 9 REB, 4 STL
0
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Steven Adams | 13 PTS (6-7 FG)
5
33%
Russell Westbrook | 22 PTS (6-18 FG), 16 REB, 11 AST
2
13%
Jerami Grant | 10 PTS (4-7 FG)
1
7%
Other (specify below)
1
7%
 
Total votes: 15

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Re: 11/20 - POSTGAME | Oklahoma City Thunder (107) - (114) New Orleans Pelicans 

Post#41 » by ThunderBolt » Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:27 pm

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I literally could have defended that as well as Westbrook did. He offered essentially no resistance at all.


Why defend Rondo so closely? Make him beat you by shooting jumpshots.

Low BBIQ.
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Re: 11/20 - POSTGAME | Oklahoma City Thunder (107) - (114) New Orleans Pelicans 

Post#42 » by Pillendreher » Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:35 pm

Jstock12 wrote:
Old Man Game wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:
This was tough to watch

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I literally could have defended that as well as Westbrook did. He offered essentially no resistance at all.


Why defend Rondo so closely? Make him beat you by shooting jumpshots.


Why switch Felton and Westbrook on Davis? Why switch Adams on Lillard? Either our players are lazy, idiots, both, or the coaching staff is just out of its mind if that's the gameplan.

We might go down as the franchise that wasted the most talent out of sheer stupidity.
"I don't know of any player that, when the shot goes up, he doesn't want it to go in," Donovan said
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Re: 11/20 - POSTGAME | Oklahoma City Thunder (107) - (114) New Orleans Pelicans 

Post#43 » by Reign23 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:36 pm

how many big leads has this team blown already this season?
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Re: 11/20 - POSTGAME | Oklahoma City Thunder (107) - (114) New Orleans Pelicans 

Post#44 » by Pillendreher » Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:13 pm

Reign23 wrote:how many big leads has this team blown already this season?


Over the last 9 games, we're (raw +/-)

+69 in the 1st quarter
-5 in the 2nd quarter
-37 in the 3rd quarter
-29 in the 4th quarter

Biggest leads since the Milwaukee game:

Boston: Lead by 18; Lost by 7
Portland: Lead by 3; Lost by 4
Sacramento: Lead by 15; Lost by 8
Denver: Lead by 11; Lost by 8
Clippers: Lead by 20; Won by 9
Dallas: Lead by 21; Won by 13
Chicago: Lead by 27; Won by 13
San Antonio: Lead by 23; Lost by 3
New Orleans: Lead by 19; Lost by 7
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Re: 11/20 - POSTGAME | Oklahoma City Thunder (107) - (114) New Orleans Pelicans 

Post#45 » by dakomish23 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:29 pm

Pillendreher wrote:
Reign23 wrote:how many big leads has this team blown already this season?


Over the last 9 games, we're (raw +/-)

+69 in the 1st quarter
-5 in the 2nd quarter
-37 in the 3rd quarter
-29 in the 4th quarter

Biggest leads since the Milwaukee game:

Boston: Lead by 18; Lost by 7
Portland: Lead by 3; Lost by 4
Sacramento: Lead by 15; Lost by 8
Denver: Lead by 11; Lost by 8
Clippers: Lead by 20; Won by 9
Dallas: Lead by 21; Won by 13
Chicago: Lead by 27; Won by 13
San Antonio: Lead by 23; Lost by 3
New Orleans: Lead by 19; Lost by 7


This team needs to come out strong in the 3rd quarter. Stop waiting till the 4th to try when the momentum is already with the opposition.
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Post#46 » by hardenASG13 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:47 pm

Pillendreher wrote:
Pillendreher wrote:Since the Milwaukee game:

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That's 9 games/432 minutes played.

NetRtG by quarter:

1st: +31
2nd: -2
3rd: -15
4th: -17


Andre Roberson's minutes per quarter over that 9 game stretch:

1st Q: 8.1 (72.5 DRtG with him on the floor)
2nd Q: 5.7 (106.8 DRtG with him on the floor)
3rd Q: 8.8 (106.8 DRtG with him on the floor)
4th Q: 4.5 (106.8 DRtG with him on the floor)

And no, that's no an error. It really is 106.8 from the 2nd to the 4th quarter.

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Melo USG% per quarter in those 9 games (8 for him):

1st Q: 27.2 % on 58.6 TS%
2nd Q: 22.5 % on 46.2 TS%
3rd Q: 25.6 % on 51.8 TS%
4th Q: 28.8 % on 41.9 TS%

Russ USG%/TS% per quarter in those 9 games:

1st Q: 30.8 % on 45.0 TS%
2nd Q: 35.6 % on 60.5 TS%
3rd Q: 30.8 % on 38.2 TS%
4th Q: 31.8 % on 37.6 TS%

George USG%/TS% per quarter in those 9 games:

1st Q: 21.5 % on 70.2 TS%
2nd Q: 23.7 % on 46.8 TS%
3rd Q: 31.1 % on 50.7 TS%
4th Q: 26.6 % on 67.6 TS%


I'm no stat expert, but doesn't that suggest that Roberson isn't having much of an effect on the teams defense, at all?
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Re: 11/20 - POSTGAME | Oklahoma City Thunder (107) - (114) New Orleans Pelicans 

Post#47 » by Dadouv47 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:54 pm

Do we play so much worse after the first quarter or it's too easy for our opponents to adapt their game against us? (while we are not changing anything at all)

I'm afraid it's a bit of both :(
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Re: 11/20 - POSTGAME | Oklahoma City Thunder (107) - (114) New Orleans Pelicans 

Post#48 » by NOOB77 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:55 pm

I dont know what is the bigger problem to be honest. Coaching or Westbrook. If Westbrook is playing like last year are the Thunder still struggling? There were some massive coaching errors last night on the defensive side of the ball. I also dont like the switch of Melo and PG where PG is now running with the bench. The offense seems to stall out with the second unit lately....

Also I notice the first quarter the Thunder play alot faster on offense. Quicker decision. Quicker shots. ect. Then has the game wears on that stops and we have trouble generating good offense when it isn't fast offense. I think the big adjustment is to push the pace like Houston 7 seconds ect. Faster shots will result in more and better shots.

As a team the Thunder need to play faster. If Melo can't keep up then so be it. Run run run and play fast. If you aren't going to shot at a high percentage then you need to get more shots than the other team.
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Post#49 » by Thundershock88 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:29 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:Well, cupcake was right. We are playing like cats and have a dumb coach :(



That is the worst part about it is realizing snake was right. This idiot already cost us KD, and now he's going to cost us PG and potentially Melo. If we can't win with these dudes, we aren't ever going to. It's not a talent issue, we can see the issue clear as day.
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Re: 11/20 - POSTGAME | Oklahoma City Thunder (107) - (114) New Orleans Pelicans 

Post#50 » by bondom34 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:34 pm

TBH. If Melo opts out its a win. Even at his best current production hes overpaid. He won't though.

PG was never likely. Was worth a shot.
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Re: 11/20 - POSTGAME | Oklahoma City Thunder (107) - (114) New Orleans Pelicans 

Post#51 » by NOOB77 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:30 pm

bondom34 wrote:TBH. If Melo opts out its a win. Even at his best current production hes overpaid. He won't though.

PG was never likely. Was worth a shot.



The best bet is for them to figure it out and turn the season around and have success. Melo opts out signs for a longer contract for less money annually and PG resigns. If PG leaves then Melo looking to pull a DWade opt in and then Thunder buy him out.
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Post#52 » by bondom34 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:32 pm

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bondom34 wrote:TBH. If Melo opts out its a win. Even at his best current production hes overpaid. He won't though.

PG was never likely. Was worth a shot.



The best bet is for them to figure it out and turn the season around and have success. Melo opts out signs for a longer contract for less money annually and PG resigns. If PG leaves then Melo looking to pull a DWade opt in and then Thunder buy him out.

I don't see him bought out either way. Unless its a total firesale which I doubt.
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Re: 11/20 - POSTGAME | Oklahoma City Thunder (107) - (114) New Orleans Pelicans 

Post#53 » by Dadouv47 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:40 pm

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Dadouv47 wrote:Well, cupcake was right. We are playing like cats and have a dumb coach :(



That is the worst part about it is realizing snake was right. This idiot already cost us KD, and now he's going to cost us PG and potentially Melo. If we can't win with these dudes, we aren't ever going to. It's not a talent issue, we can see the issue clear as day.


Still don't think Donovan is the reason why cupcake left, but whatever. I'm more pissed at Presti tbh. He showed this offseason how great he was not only to make good draft picks but also to make good trades, but his job at deciding coach staff has been VERY bad. The timing to fire Scott Brooks was the worst possible and now he clearly doesn't want to get rid of Donovan.

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