12/11 - 7PM CST | G26: Charlotte Hornets at Oklahoma City Thunder

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Re: 12/11 - 7PM CST | G26: Charlotte Hornets at Oklahoma City Thunder 

Post#101 » by Joest2003 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:20 pm

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bondom34 wrote:Literally this whole thread.

And I don't think anyone said he's worse than Abrines or Singler. They're not even NBA caliber by now. But your entire take here is wrong and its laid out for you by many, including Hornets fans elsewhere.

And you'd care I can link to where you were banned previously when I get home. It wasn't for differing opinions and I don't think you want to have everyone see it who hasn't.



So you admit he's better than the bench wings on OKC but also say my take it wrong....hmmm that's strange considering my take was that Brooks shold have developed him so in the future OKC would have a consistent SG off the bench instead of Singler and Abrines....

Except if they wanted until 2017 for him to become a passable bench player that's not much help. He sucked until now.


Maybe Singler or Felton can fill that void lol
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Re: 12/11 - 7PM CST | G26: Charlotte Hornets at Oklahoma City Thunder 

Post#102 » by Joest2003 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:23 pm

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Joest2003 wrote:My whole stance in the past was that Lamb has potential and needs to be developed so IN THE FUTURE he can help KD and Russell because all championship teams have some good scorers off the bench. It is now the future and he's now doing that for the Hornets instead. If you admit he would be helping OKC this year off the bench then you agree with my take. Not sure how this is so hard to comprehend


The thing that everyone took exception to is your stance on OKC's development of young players, the assertion that no one developed in OKC and basically that no one ever would while Russ was here.

Lamb would be useful now. But you basically said that Lamb was an example of OKC being bad at development and used it to back up your assertion that no young players developed in OKC, at which point the regulars on the board told you you were wrong.


I said under Brooks not OKC. I love OKC thunder always have. I hated Brooks and always will. If he's such a good coach why did he get fired?

Never seen a fan base ride so hard for their former coach....

No where did I disrespect the OKC organization. I was speaking about Brooks and brooks only
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Re: 12/11 - 7PM CST | G26: Charlotte Hornets at Oklahoma City Thunder 

Post#103 » by bondom34 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:23 pm

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So you admit he's better than the bench wings on OKC but also say my take it wrong....hmmm that's strange considering my take was that Brooks shold have developed him so in the future OKC would have a consistent SG off the bench instead of Singler and Abrines....

Except if they wanted until 2017 for him to become a passable bench player that's not much help. He sucked until now.


Maybe Singler or Felton can fill that void lol

In don't know what the point of this was.
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Re: 12/11 - 7PM CST | G26: Charlotte Hornets at Oklahoma City Thunder 

Post#104 » by Andre Roberstan » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:25 pm

Joest2003 wrote:
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Joest2003 wrote:My whole stance in the past was that Lamb has potential and needs to be developed so IN THE FUTURE he can help KD and Russell because all championship teams have some good scorers off the bench. It is now the future and he's now doing that for the Hornets instead. If you admit he would be helping OKC this year off the bench then you agree with my take. Not sure how this is so hard to comprehend


The thing that everyone took exception to is your stance on OKC's development of young players, the assertion that no one developed in OKC and basically that no one ever would while Russ was here.

Lamb would be useful now. But you basically said that Lamb was an example of OKC being bad at development and used it to back up your assertion that no young players developed in OKC, at which point the regulars on the board told you you were wrong.


I said under Brooks not OKC. I love OKC thunder always have. I hated Brooks and always will. If he's such a good coach why did he get fired?

Never seen a fan base ride so hard for their former coach....

No where did I disrespect the OKC organization. I was speaking about Brooks and brooks only


OK then, that's fair. You said OKC under Brooks.

But Reggie Jackson alone explodes that.
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Re: 12/11 - 7PM CST | G26: Charlotte Hornets at Oklahoma City Thunder 

Post#105 » by Thundershock88 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:29 pm

Joest2003 wrote:
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Joest2003 wrote:My whole stance in the past was that Lamb has potential and needs to be developed so IN THE FUTURE he can help KD and Russell because all championship teams have some good scorers off the bench. It is now the future and he's now doing that for the Hornets instead. If you admit he would be helping OKC this year off the bench then you agree with my take. Not sure how this is so hard to comprehend


The thing that everyone took exception to is your stance on OKC's development of young players, the assertion that no one developed in OKC and basically that no one ever would while Russ was here.

Lamb would be useful now. But you basically said that Lamb was an example of OKC being bad at development and used it to back up your assertion that no young players developed in OKC, at which point the regulars on the board told you you were wrong.


I said under Brooks not OKC. I love OKC thunder always have. I hated Brooks and always will. If he's such a good coach why did he get fired?

Never seen a fan base ride so hard for their former coach....

No where did I disrespect the OKC organization. I was speaking about Brooks and brooks only


I don't think anyone here is a diehard Brooks fan. They just know his strong points. He had plenty of issues as well. In fact, I have seen plenty of people say Donovan is Scott Brooks 2.0. Scott Brooks is great at player development. He lacked in the X's and O's and adjusting the rotation properly.
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Re: 12/11 - 7PM CST | G26: Charlotte Hornets at Oklahoma City Thunder 

Post#106 » by bwgood77 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:02 pm

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Lamb is a good player though. He's averaging 15/5/3. For us collectively as a fan base we want him starting over Batum who has a max contract. OKC old coaching staff dropped the ball on Lamb and I was saying it the whole time he was there and I got a lot of flak for it. So glad he got out of there


Lamb is good now.

He was not then.


Kinda hard when you have no development and get sent and back and fourth to Tulsa 3 times a week no? OKC was to worried about winning to develop young guys back then. They knew they had a window. To this day I still feel bad for rookies thay get drafted to OKC. They will never reach anything close to full potential as long as russell is there. Brooks being fired was a step in the right direction at least. Brooks had the irrational expectations for young guys to be more consistent without consistent playing time and I think the lack of development in younger players really hurt the organization as a whole. You guys let Lamb walk for nothing.


Why are you trolling an OKC game thread talking crap about OKC? This is your first and second statement. What's the point? Apparently you like Lamb and you think he's good. He may have averaged 15/5/3 but he isn't setting the world on fire. He's a SG with an eFG% of 49.3. That's hardly impressive. Last year he averaged less than 10 ppg. Maybe that's because he hit 3s at a 28% clip.

Yes, OKC was busy winning 60 and 59 games in his first two years getting the 1 and 2 seeds and perhaps Jeremy Lamb wasn't their primary focus. This year he has put up more raw numbers due to more minutes so I guess that's good, but his last two years in OKC and his first two years in Charlotte were not all that much different.

If you're just going to bash OKC because of how Lamb was treated or for any reason, then you should give it a rest.
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Re: 12/11 - 7PM CST | G26: Charlotte Hornets at Oklahoma City Thunder 

Post#107 » by spearsy23 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:52 am

We let lamb go for waiters. If we'd kept lamb he wouldn't have been here any longer anyway, we would've jettisoned him to offer Russ that extension.
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Re: 12/11 - 7PM CST | G26: Charlotte Hornets at Oklahoma City Thunder 

Post#108 » by Joest2003 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:37 am

bwgood77 wrote:
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Lamb is good now.

He was not then.


Kinda hard when you have no development and get sent and back and fourth to Tulsa 3 times a week no? OKC was to worried about winning to develop young guys back then. They knew they had a window. To this day I still feel bad for rookies thay get drafted to OKC. They will never reach anything close to full potential as long as russell is there. Brooks being fired was a step in the right direction at least. Brooks had the irrational expectations for young guys to be more consistent without consistent playing time and I think the lack of development in younger players really hurt the organization as a whole. You guys let Lamb walk for nothing.


Why are you trolling an OKC game thread talking crap about OKC? This is your first and second statement. What's the point? Apparently you like Lamb and you think he's good. He may have averaged 15/5/3 but he isn't setting the world on fire. He's a SG with an eFG% of 49.3. That's hardly impressive. Last year he averaged less than 10 ppg. Maybe that's because he hit 3s at a 28% clip.

Yes, OKC was busy winning 60 and 59 games in his first two years getting the 1 and 2 seeds and perhaps Jeremy Lamb wasn't their primary focus. This year he has put up more raw numbers due to more minutes so I guess that's good, but his last two years in OKC and his first two years in Charlotte were not all that much different.

If you're just going to bash OKC because of how Lamb was treated or for any reason, then you should give it a rest.


Trolling and criticizing a old coach for his development methods are different. But thanks for the input
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Re: 12/11 - 7PM CST | G26: Charlotte Hornets at Oklahoma City Thunder 

Post#109 » by Joest2003 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:44 am

Look guys I'm sorry if I came off the wrong way. I honestly like the thunder a lot I always have. Being from CT we have literally nothing except our cherished uconn huskies. Lamb is one of my favorite players and I selfishly wanted it to work out for him in OKC. I saw someone compare Sabrines to Lamb and said he will never be good just like Lamb. Sorry for my reaction I really didn't mean to come off as a OKC hater because everyone that knows me knows that's not true. Here's to the Thunder turning around the season and taking out the Warriors in the western finals.
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Re: 12/11 - 7PM CST | G26: Charlotte Hornets at Oklahoma City Thunder 

Post#110 » by spearsy23 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:38 am

“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.

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