1/2 | G37: Oklahoma City Thunder at Los Angeles Lakers - 9:30PM CST

[Mattv]

I was pouring over Schroder's shooting stats from this season and previous season and one thing I noticed is that within 10 feet of the basket, if Schroder has space and the defense isn't collapsing the paint he's hitting over 60% of his shots on floaters and layups. I mean... that's a good thing, right? He also showed a proclivity in Atlanta for knocking down wide open 3-pt shots (c&s situations) at 40%. Problem is we can't get him wide open...

Problem is he isn't moving the ball therefore the defense is collapsing because they know he's going to the rim. Theres no doubt Schroder is a good finisher around the rim with a good floater but not so much with 4 to 5 people guarding him. We all agree that Schroder is / Can be a good player and could use more help from the Okc shooters but with a pass here and there to the shooters hit or miss will at least make the defenders think about coming over to help and would help him out a ton.

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Nah, bro. We don't all agree. That's why I've been "defending" him. I can't tell you how many times I've heard "schroder sucks."

Let's say Schroder starts giving up the ball more. Who is he giving it to and what is that player going to do with the ball? No one else can drive but Schroder...

Well me and you agree then. Give it to the open man. I want to see Schroder break down the defense like he always does but instead of forcing a shot contested by 3 or 4 people kick it out either we make the shot, miss the shot or when the defense trys to recover they get blown by. Either way it makes the defense 2nd guess about leaving there man to help out and that little hesitation from the help defenders is all Schroder needs.

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[Pillendreher]

Nah, bro. We don't all agree. That's why I've been "defending" him. I can't tell you how many times I've heard "schroder sucks."

Let's say Schroder starts giving up the ball more. Who is he giving it to and what is that player going to do with the ball? No one else can drive but Schroder...

The thing you don't seem to understand is that there's no rule that prohibits teams from actually passing and moving. Nobody is forced to drive and chuck up a shot like Schröder does all the time. Instead of being a ballhog, Schröder is actually allowed to do more than attempt the shot himself or throw a horrible lob pass to Noel. Try a pick and pop with Patterson. Have Diallo cut to the rim. Use Noel in the Pick and Roll in another way then to force a switch and then iso. Set an off-ball screen. Anything that involves the team and not just Schröder.
You talk about offensive possessions like it's mandatory that one guy creates everything. It's not.

[ThunderBolt]

How is it any more embarrassing than any other trash talk?

The rest of us can see it whereas the trash talk we mostly wouldn't be privy to.

That's just a function of us paying attention to this team though. There are a lot of Guys doing this, and most of them are worse than Russ (ie Patrick Beverley). The only time I find it embarrassing is when you're doing it down 15.

I actually take back what I said. Lance did some stupid dance after his assist for the dunk so he has it coming. Good for russ and pg.