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[SecondTake]

Dennis Shcorder forcing himself back in to that 6th man of the year conversation.

how? because he played out of his mind during one quarter?

He's the best second half bench player in the NBA scoring wise. He's 43% from 3 in January with 15/4/3 for the season. He had a terrible December, a good November and a great January. He's pretty solid as a second unit player. He's easily a top 3 candidate for 6MOY which is a nice change compared to what we usually have there.

[Dadouv47]

he's so good that Billy Donovan finally decided to bench him in clutch time (and it's working)

[Bergmaniac]

Schroder has no shot for 6MOY, Dinwiddle, Sabonis, Lou Williams, Montrezl Harrell, Derrick Rose all have much better stats and more impact.

[spearsy23]

Dennis Shcorder forcing himself back in to that 6th man of the year conversation.

how? because he played out of his mind during one quarter?

He's the best second half bench player in the NBA scoring wise. He's 43% from 3 in January with 15/4/3 for the season. He had a terrible December, a good November and a great January. He's pretty solid as a second unit player. He's easily a top 3 candidate for 6MOY which is a nice change compared to what we usually have there.

He's not a top 3 candidate for 6MOY. Even if you just ranked sixth men by pure ppg he wouldn't be top 3.

[SecondTake]

he's so good that Billy Donovan finally decided to bench him in clutch time (and it's working)

You mean like yesterday when he scored 18 in the 4th and sealed the deal?

Yeah, imagine benching him in the 4th, we probably lose that game.

[Dadouv47]

he's so good that Billy Donovan finally decided to bench him in clutch time (and it's working)

You mean like yesterday when he scored 18 in the 4th and sealed the deal?

Yeah, imagine benching him in the 4th, we probably lose that game.

Well I asked you if he should get some 6th MOY consideration because of yesterday, you said no it's about all year but the only good ''clutch'' moment you can mention is yesterday's 4th quarter.

Since we are playing Ferguson in clutch time we are way better than we were with Schroeder. If a guy like Schroeder can't impact the game as well as Ferguson, I don't think he deserves some 6th MOY consideration.

(and I wasn't saying about benching him all 4th quarter, only clutch time when you need some defense that Schroeder can't bring)

[slick_watts]

But how many better back up PGs are there in the league?

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toronto has two: fred vanvleet and delon wright

also, perhaps:

jeremy lin
spencer dinwiddie
tomas satoransky
monte morris
patrick beverly
j.j. barea
derrick rose
patty mills
cory joseph
t.j. mcconnell

How many of those have scored 18 in the 4th quarter and single handed carried a game down the stretch?

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[SecondTake]

toronto has two: fred vanvleet and delon wright

also, perhaps:

jeremy lin
spencer dinwiddie
tomas satoransky
monte morris
patrick beverly
j.j. barea
derrick rose
patty mills
cory joseph
t.j. mcconnell

How many of those have scored 18 in the 4th quarter and single handed carried a game down the stretch?

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Well yeah, Rose is my 6MOY favorite, hence why Shroder is top 3. But aside from Rose, no one is doing in crunch time what Schroder did in the 4th last night.

[SecondTake]

he's so good that Billy Donovan finally decided to bench him in clutch time (and it's working)

You mean like yesterday when he scored 18 in the 4th and sealed the deal?

Yeah, imagine benching him in the 4th, we probably lose that game.

Well I asked you if he should get some 6th MOY consideration because of yesterday, you said no it's about all year but the only good ''clutch'' moment you can mention is yesterday's 4th quarter.

Since we are playing Ferguson in clutch time we are way better than we were with Schroeder. If a guy like Schroeder can't impact the game as well as Ferguson, I don't think he deserves some 6th MOY consideration.

(and I wasn't saying about benching him all 4th quarter, only clutch time when you need some defense that Schroeder can't bring)

But Ferg is a starter. Schroder is a reserve. A 6th man shouldn't be better than his equivalent starter (WB/Ferg) otherwise they wouldn't be riding the bench to begin with. Ferg is better than Schroder, but as far as bench players go Schroder has to be in the discussion with the best.

Schroder had his best 4th quarter yesterday, but he has bailed the thunder out multiple times during the season with 3rd and 4th quarter assaults.

People here talk about Schroder like he's some Felton level scrub. The dude can play and he's most definitely one of the better backup PG's in the league.

[slick_watts]

Well yeah, Rose is my 6MOY favorite, hence why Shroder is top 3. But aside from Rose, no one is doing in crunch time what Schroder did in the 4th last night.

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[Thunder Up]

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[slick_watts]

since we're doing this...

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OP suggested no one else on the list was capable of taking over games. dinwiddie and rose have, and more often than schroder.

notwithstanding that being a dumb way to assess a backup's value or a backup pg's value. monte morris for example has been blazingly efficient running the offense for denver with the bench. schroder has been horrific in that role for us.

[spearsy23]

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Pretty much any high usage PG does this at some point.

[BlockCity]

Schroeder saving us? wtf?

But how many better back up PGs are there in the league?

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toronto has two: fred vanvleet and delon wright

also, perhaps:

jeremy lin
spencer dinwiddie
tomas satoransky
monte morris
patrick beverly
j.j. barea
derrick rose
patty mills
cory joseph
t.j. mcconnell

Rose and Dinwiddie have had great seasons.

Laughable with a few of the other names you've put. Jeremy Lin Haha

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[slick_watts]

But how many better back up PGs are there in the league?

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toronto has two: fred vanvleet and delon wright

also, perhaps:

jeremy lin
spencer dinwiddie
tomas satoransky
monte morris
patrick beverly
j.j. barea
derrick rose
patty mills
cory joseph
t.j. mcconnell

Rose and Dinwiddie have had great seasons.

Laughable with a few of the other names you've put. Jeremy Lin Haha

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schroder is putting up a few more points per game than lin by virtue of playing more minutes (per possession they score the same number of points), but lin has schroder in every other way. like morris he is vastly more efficient, they are both bad on defense, but lin is elite at getting to the line. lin even gets more assists per possession than schroder.

there's a reason that atlanta chose to pay $28 million of schroder's $45 million to get him to go away and put jeremy lin in that role. he's simply a better player.

[hardenASG13]

toronto has two: fred vanvleet and delon wright

also, perhaps:

jeremy lin
spencer dinwiddie
tomas satoransky
monte morris
patrick beverly
j.j. barea
derrick rose
patty mills
cory joseph
t.j. mcconnell

Rose and Dinwiddie have had great seasons.

Laughable with a few of the other names you've put. Jeremy Lin Haha

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schroder is putting up a few more points per game than lin by virtue of playing more minutes (per possession they score the same number of points), but lin has schroder in every other way. like morris he is vastly more efficient, they are both bad on defense, but lin is elite at getting to the line. lin even gets more assists per possession than schroder.

there's a reason that atlanta chose to pay $28 million of schroder's $45 million to get him to go away and put jeremy lin in that role. he's simply a better player.

Atlanta is tanking! Schroeder was their starter, he was moved to open up minutes for trey young. Lin was brought in as a veteran pg to back him up and be a pro about it.

[BlockCity]

toronto has two: fred vanvleet and delon wright

also, perhaps:

jeremy lin
spencer dinwiddie
tomas satoransky
monte morris
patrick beverly
j.j. barea
derrick rose
patty mills
cory joseph
t.j. mcconnell

Rose and Dinwiddie have had great seasons.

Laughable with a few of the other names you've put. Jeremy Lin Haha

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schroder is putting up a few more points per game than lin by virtue of playing more minutes (per possession they score the same number of points), but lin has schroder in every other way. like morris he is vastly more efficient, they are both bad on defense, but lin is elite at getting to the line. lin even gets more assists per possession than schroder.

there's a reason that atlanta chose to pay $28 million of schroder's $45 million to get him to go away and put jeremy lin in that role. he's simply a better player.

The reason is Atlanta are tanking and lose many basketball games.

Nobody in the league would take Lin over Schroder as a basketball player

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[slick_watts]

Rose and Dinwiddie have had great seasons.

Laughable with a few of the other names you've put. Jeremy Lin Haha

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schroder is putting up a few more points per game than lin by virtue of playing more minutes (per possession they score the same number of points), but lin has schroder in every other way. like morris he is vastly more efficient, they are both bad on defense, but lin is elite at getting to the line. lin even gets more assists per possession than schroder.

there's a reason that atlanta chose to pay $28 million of schroder's $45 million to get him to go away and put jeremy lin in that role. he's simply a better player.

The reason is Atlanta are tanking and lose many basketball games.

Nobody in the league would take Lin over Schroder as a basketball player

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so let me get this straight. schroder had bad numbers last year because atlanta was tanking. but jeremy lin has better numbers than schroder this year because.. atlanta is tanking?

makes sense!

[BlockCity]

schroder is putting up a few more points per game than lin by virtue of playing more minutes (per possession they score the same number of points), but lin has schroder in every other way. like morris he is vastly more efficient, they are both bad on defense, but lin is elite at getting to the line. lin even gets more assists per possession than schroder.

there's a reason that atlanta chose to pay $28 million of schroder's $45 million to get him to go away and put jeremy lin in that role. he's simply a better player.

The reason is Atlanta are tanking and lose many basketball games.

Nobody in the league would take Lin over Schroder as a basketball player

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so let me get this straight. schroder had bad numbers last year because atlanta was tanking. but jeremy lin has better numbers than schroder this year because.. atlanta is tanking?

makes sense!

Schroder playing in crunctime most of the season and shooting the 3 ball in 2nd halfs at 40%. General shooting numbers up to in this time.

Lins numbers are okay, but hes played on a losing team and doesnt play in nearly as many clutch situations as Schroder.

As I said, no one would take Lin over Schroder if your aim is to win. Much tougher player to guard.

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