Abdel Nader Traded to OKC for Rodney Purvis

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Re: Abdel Nader Traded to OKC for Rodney Purvis 

Post#41 » by bondom34 » Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:45 pm

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if it's cash neutral, yes, that would satisfy my curiosity. if not, then i think it's another in long line of odd fringe spends by sam. and those are always odd.

what else are we going to analyze? i think a lot of interesting things came out of this analysis. i don't think many people knew the luxury tax rule on undrafted free agents playing for league minimum, for example.

Honestly, anything. Neither of these guys will send a minute in the NBA.


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Re: Abdel Nader Traded to OKC for Rodney Purvis 

Post#42 » by Balkman32 » Tue Jul 24, 2018 4:19 pm

A deal for Kyle Korver would now work with Singler & Nader for Korver.

I really think this deal just gives them more flexibility, a chance to get another wing player in training camp (if he is kept past August 1), on a cheaper contract, and he has non-guarantee years after this year.

Maybe the Thunder want to hold off on signing Diallo. Who knows. But, the Thunder adding a guy making $1.3 million guy right now is not as big of a deal as some make it out to be. I am sure someone would take him on at the deadline. I do think that the Thunder will be a player in the buy out market. Those contracts are cheaper as well.

Also note that the C's are close to the Lux tax line. If they can dip under it will save them so much money in 2021 and on word.
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Re: Abdel Nader Traded to OKC for Rodney Purvis 

Post#43 » by spearsy23 » Tue Jul 24, 2018 5:40 pm

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bondom34 wrote:I don't think there's a motivation for OKC. I think it's exactly what David said. It's nothing. And you're way overanalyzing.

Isn't there always a motivation? If there is no motive behind an action, what's the point of the action? Random trades for the sake of doing something seem unlikely for Presti. This particular move has no clear motive and on the surface appears to run counter to our expectation that we are trying to cut salary; therefore, I am intrigued.
In this case, I think the most obvious solution is that Presti is, and has been, accumulating long-athletic wings in the hopes that one or more will develop into a solid 3 and D guy (Huestis, Ferguson, Diallo, Hall, TLC, Nadar).

I think it's what David said above. A back scratching.

If this was somebody presti had close ties to (ie Hennigan) I'd be more inclined to believe it, especially at the cost. Honestly, as much as presti likes the d league, I think it's most likely that he is intrigued enough to take a shot in the dark with Nader.
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Re: Abdel Nader Traded to OKC for Rodney Purvis 

Post#44 » by slick_watts » Wed Jul 25, 2018 12:11 pm

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as i suspected, ainge didn't send nearly enough to cover nader's tax hit on our end, and not a penny more than it would have cost him to cut the guy himself.

which means nader isn't getting cut, and the cash transactions from dakari -> purvis -> nader officially make absolutely no sense.
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Re: Abdel Nader Traded to OKC for Rodney Purvis 

Post#45 » by Pillendreher » Wed Jul 25, 2018 12:20 pm

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as i suspected, ainge didn't send nearly enough to cover nader's tax hit on our end, and not a penny more than it would have cost him to cut the guy himself.

which means nader isn't getting cut, and the cash transactions from dakari -> purvis -> nader officially make absolutely no sense.


So it's either he likes Nader (why?!) or he thinks his ng contract might make him a decent thrown-in in a trade.
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Re: Abdel Nader Traded to OKC for Rodney Purvis 

Post#46 » by slick_watts » Wed Jul 25, 2018 12:25 pm

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as i suspected, ainge didn't send nearly enough to cover nader's tax hit on our end, and not a penny more than it would have cost him to cut the guy himself.

which means nader isn't getting cut, and the cash transactions from dakari -> purvis -> nader officially make absolutely no sense.


So it's either he likes Nader (why?!) or he thinks his ng contract might make him a decent thrown-in in a trade.


sam's fringe prospect grabs are just one of those things in this world our monkey brains weren't meant to fully understand. like quantum gravity, or P v. NP.
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Post#47 » by Balkman32 » Wed Jul 25, 2018 12:59 pm

Lets say we get to the deadline and Nader is still on the team. We are paying him $1.3 this year. He can then make $1.6 and $1.7 in non-guranteed years after this season. So he is basically on a one year deal if thats what the team wants.

Lets say we are in negoations at the deadline and want to acquire someone over the Melo trade exception.

Lets say they have interest in Thad Young on Indiana and they end up setteling on Patterson and Singler. To make the money work you will need aders contract.

I am sure the team has assesed who can come availabel during the season and whay knid of contracts do we need on this roster to make thing happen if the oppertunity knocks.

Or this is just like Ronnie Price. Who knows.
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Re: Abdel Nader Traded to OKC for Rodney Purvis 

Post#48 » by alessandrux » Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:39 am

I just wanted to bump this thread to show my appreciation for Nader this season.

He severely exceeded my expectations. I expected him to be an end of the bench guy who would be lucky to see any minutes in blowouts.
But he shows a lot of confidence, makes plays, is not afraid of the moment and gives it all. I really appreciate him.
He is an all around player who I think does not win us games, but he is good enough to soak up minutes without losing us games single-handedly.


That said, I still would be very surprised if he is part of our playoff rotation, because I think he is just a step to slow and could be exploited in many ways (and does not have any real strength that allows him to exploit others).


I would not mind having him back next season, he also seems like a good lockerroom presence who doesn't mind playing in Oklahoma City. But I would expect him to loose many of his minutes to the rookies who should improve (Diallo and Burton or any newly drafted player) and a hopefully healthy Roberson.
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Post#49 » by ThunderBolt » Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:45 am

I would rather diallo get his minutes, tbh. I don’t know diallo is better but at least hami has a future. Nader is too slow. Even when he fouled that three point shooter last night, it was the slowest foul I’ve ever seen.
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Post#50 » by slick_watts » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:08 pm

any number of vet min guys could give you the same or better than nader gives the thunder. and the thunder paid tax to get him. still weird.
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Post#51 » by Andre Roberstan » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:51 pm

slick_watts wrote:any number of vet min guys could give you the same or better than nader gives the thunder. and the thunder paid tax to get him. still weird.


Favor to Ainge.
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Post#52 » by ThunderBolt » Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:07 pm

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slick_watts wrote:any number of vet min guys could give you the same or better than nader gives the thunder. and the thunder paid tax to get him. still weird.


Favor to Ainge.

For what, Kendrick Perkins?
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Re: Abdel Nader Traded to OKC for Rodney Purvis 

Post#53 » by Andre Roberstan » Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:10 pm

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slick_watts wrote:any number of vet min guys could give you the same or better than nader gives the thunder. and the thunder paid tax to get him. still weird.


Favor to Ainge.

For what, Kendrick Perkins?


Nah, Ainge and Presti do this sort of back of roster stuff fairly often as GMs go. PJ3 comes to mind. There's an obvious relationship between the two.

Maybe "favor" is the wrong word, but they do tend to work together a little bit, or at least so it appears from the outside. Quid pro quo and all that. There was a piece a few years ago that mapped out connections between GMs and OKC was clustered in a group with Denver, Boston, Orlando (when Hennigan was there), Utah, and Chicago. Those teams seem to have some relationship with OKC and are more likely trade partners.
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