3/17 | G71: Miami Heat at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST

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Paul George | 31 PTS (9-18 FG, 4-11 3P), 9 REB, 5 AST
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Jerami Grant | 27 PTS (10-16 FG), 10 REB
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Re: 3/17 | G71: Miami Heat at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#61 » by Kizz Fastfists » Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:27 pm

Thunder Up wrote:If solid is going 3/9 on eight butt ass naked three pointers, you have some very very low standards for your shooters


Shooting 33% from 3 is solid. 4/9, 44%, would have been good and 6/9, 67%, would have been great.
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Re: 3/17 | G71: Miami Heat at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#62 » by SecondTake » Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:02 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:Is everyone still against rebuilding?


Who the hell rebuilds when they have an MVP on their team and another top 3 MVP candidate emerging this year? Not to mention a top 10 big man in the game and a PF that may be a top 10 player at his position in a couple of years in Grant.

We just need a new coach. There's zero reason why we shouldnt be winning 60 games a year when teams with worse players have or are doing that.
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Re: 3/17 | G71: Miami Heat at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#63 » by SecondTake » Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:13 pm

Again, Burton only got 6 minutes. He was shutting down anyone he was guarding (minus a bad play where he got blown by).

Why is he sitting in place of Nader?? Nader can score occasionally, but so can Burton. Burton can also shut guys down (we saw it today), pass like a PG and play 4 positions.

Billys rotations are garbage. He has no game plan. I see him call a play maybe twice a game and it usually ends up being a contested brick.

When can we fire this guy?

We're still going to crush the first round, but it's looking less and less certain that we make the WCF.
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Re: 3/17 | G71: Miami Heat at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#64 » by ThunderBolt » Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:25 pm

SecondTake wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:Is everyone still against rebuilding?


Who the hell rebuilds when they have an MVP on their team and another top 3 MVP candidate emerging this year? Not to mention a top 10 big man in the game and a PF that may be a top 10 player at his position in a couple of years in Grant.

We just need a new coach. There's zero reason why we shouldnt be winning 60 games a year when teams with worse players have or are doing that.


Is the other top 3 mvp candidate George or Burton?
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Re: 3/17 | G71: Miami Heat at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#65 » by SecondTake » Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:34 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:
SecondTake wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:Is everyone still against rebuilding?


Who the hell rebuilds when they have an MVP on their team and another top 3 MVP candidate emerging this year? Not to mention a top 10 big man in the game and a PF that may be a top 10 player at his position in a couple of years in Grant.

We just need a new coach. There's zero reason why we shouldnt be winning 60 games a year when teams with worse players have or are doing that.


Is the other top 3 mvp candidate George or Burton?


Burton isnt getting enough minutes to be in the conversation. But we all know if he was getting 15-20 min a game he would be top 5 for Rookie of the Year.
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Re: 3/17 | G71: Miami Heat at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#66 » by acheema0 » Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:47 pm

SecondTake wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:
SecondTake wrote:
Who the hell rebuilds when they have an MVP on their team and another top 3 MVP candidate emerging this year? Not to mention a top 10 big man in the game and a PF that may be a top 10 player at his position in a couple of years in Grant.

We just need a new coach. There's zero reason why we shouldnt be winning 60 games a year when teams with worse players have or are doing that.


Is the other top 3 mvp candidate George or Burton?


Burton isnt getting enough minutes to be in the conversation. But we all know if he was getting 15-20 min a game he would be top 5 for Rookie of the Year.


I think it speaks to the current state of this board that I genuinely cannot tell if this is sarcasm.
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Re: 3/17 | G71: Miami Heat at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#67 » by Kizz Fastfists » Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:02 pm

acheema0 wrote:I think it speaks to the current state of this board that I genuinely cannot tell if this is sarcasm.


I find that troll very entertaining. He's like all the sarcastic thoughts I have about the team just right there for me to read. Burton is the future! Russ is going to get the lift back on his shots and bring his impact level back up to all-star level. The Thunder will go 16-0 in the playoffs.
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Re: 3/17 | G71: Miami Heat at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#68 » by SecondTake » Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:07 pm

acheema0 wrote:
SecondTake wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:
Is the other top 3 mvp candidate George or Burton?


Burton isnt getting enough minutes to be in the conversation. But we all know if he was getting 15-20 min a game he would be top 5 for Rookie of the Year.


I think it speaks to the current state of this board that I genuinely cannot tell if this is sarcasm.


I think there's a growing contingent on this board that is waking up to the fact that we've dog housed potentially the best player off our bench. We're robbing a latent talent from a blossoming career. Credit to Burton that he's been able to show such flashes of brilliance during his few minutes on the court that he's forced Billy on the hot seat about his position on the team. What makes him special is how complete his game is. Do you see any good reason why we should be playing Nader over Burton?
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Re: 3/17 | G71: Miami Heat at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#69 » by SecondTake » Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:09 pm

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acheema0 wrote:I think it speaks to the current state of this board that I genuinely cannot tell if this is sarcasm.


I find that troll very entertaining. He's like all the sarcastic thoughts I have about the team just right there for me to read. Burton is the future! Russ is going to get the lift back on his shots and bring his impact level back up to all-star level. The Thunder will go 16-0 in the playoffs.


I admit my predictions have been pretty bad recently. In fact it seems whatever I predict, the opposite happens. So I'm starting to doubt myself.

But the team is at such a low point now, we might as well release the Burton and see what happens. Can't get worse than 4-9.
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Re: 3/17 | G71: Miami Heat at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#70 » by Pillendreher » Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:33 pm

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“I’m not worried about that,” Thunder coach Billy Donovan said of going 4-9 in the past 13 games. “We have really good guys. This is part of it, we’re playing a really hard schedule. We’ve got really competitive guys, and they’re going to take on the challenge.”


This is the problem when you employ a halfwit: These are not just empty phrases for the media, but what he actually thinks.

Old Man Game wrote:I just keep going back to how dumb **** Presti already gave Bill Doh and extension before even seeing how the rest of this season would play out. Just complete incompetence in the way he's handled this coaching situation.


Perkins all over again.

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Old Man Game wrote:I just keep going back to how dumb **** Presti already gave Bill Doh and extension before even seeing how the rest of this season would play out. Just complete incompetence in the way he's handled this coaching situation.


As fans we have the right to demand better from the front office and organization. It really irks me when people so thunder fans are spoiled and we should accept whatever is thrown out on the court. If we finished with 30 wins, had some young guys showing promise, tried to play the right way and weren’t in salary cap hell then I wouldn’t complain that much. This slow sinking ship is what aggravated me more than any possible scenario.


I still can't believe they cheered them on when getting **** destroyed by the damn Heat. It will take us years to cleanse this franchise of Presti's "We're a small town and whatever happens happens" propaganda. They're so accustomed to management+coaching staff underperforming that they don't even realize the discrepancy between what we're investing and what we're achieving.
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Re: 3/17 | G71: Miami Heat at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#71 » by Thunder Up » Wed Mar 20, 2019 12:23 am

Billy Donovan should have been fired after OKC blew the 3-1 to the Warriors.
Once I saw that our offense was still to have Russ try and toss the ball to Durant in a post position at the 3 point line for an isolation during crunch time, I knew it had zero chance of working out.
Like, how **** hard is it to run a high PnR with Durant and Westbrook or have Durant move off ball for a catch and shoot / way to establish an isolation situation like 29 other clubs you trash ass coach
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Re: 3/17 | G71: Miami Heat at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#72 » by Dadouv47 » Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:08 am

Thunder Up wrote:Billy Donovan should have been fired after OKC blew the 3-1 to the Warriors.
Once I saw that our offense was still to have Russ try and toss the ball to Durant in a post position at the 3 point line for an isolation during crunch time, I knew it had zero chance of working out.
Like, how **** hard is it to run a high PnR with Durant and Westbrook or have Durant move off ball for a catch and shoot / way to establish an isolation situation like 29 other clubs you trash ass coach


Don't agree about that. First I would say that you won't make a coaching change (when your main players like the coach) one year before Durant's free agency. Then OKC was trash in the regular season but we had a GREAT postseason (we beat the best spurs regular season team ever and almost won against the Warriors). Donovan's rotation in the playoffs worked (whether it was lucky or competence, it worked). So after that postseason it was difficult not to bring him back.
But in the end he should never have been our coach and if so fired a long time ago.
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Re: 3/17 | G71: Miami Heat at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#73 » by Dadouv47 » Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:09 am

Just watching PG13 interview to Woj. Feel like I would love this interview a month ago but now I don't believe in our chances to win a series so...:(
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Re: 3/17 | G71: Miami Heat at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#74 » by ozwizard8 » Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:27 am

TheGreatSatan wrote:It's not possible to win with this kind of offensively challenged second unit. This got to be one of the worst benches i've seen in my lifetime. The moment you see them you find yourself thinking 'oh, there are no baskets in here'.

Basketball teams doesnt need play 2nd unit as whole.
They just need a rotation. It could be 9 men or 11.
Important part is how good your players you plan to play 30+ minutes
And how the players going to play 20-30.
Then 10-20 and 10-0.

Superstars of this team WB-PG13 is great players to have and play for 35+ minutes.
Than J.Grant, S.Adams they're also pretty good. You can play them 30+ minutes easily.
After that there are guys like Schroder-Noel. Those 2 might not be above average nba starter for their position. But if you just need 20-25 minutes from them they're one of the best. Lebron had J.Mcgee as starter and OKC had Noel as bench player.
Guys like Ferguson/Morris are also pretty fine options to play 15-20 minutes.
Nader-Felton-Diallo-Patterson are fine bench warmers.

Worst bench ever? No its certainly not.

B.Donovan might be the worst coach out there but the bench isnt.
How they perform is bad but its because our clueless coach.

You cant hide how much of a beast WB is. Or you cant hide how strong Adams is. Even with worst coach out there they can play they can win 50 games with PG. But that doesnt mean coach isnt holding this team back.

Either way Sam Presti should feel some heat!
If coach is fine then we should say silly things like; Adams contract is overpaid, bench is whack, WB uncoachable etc.
If coach sucks than why dont he replace him?

Roster building or coaching selection. Blame is on Presti.
-2 superstars in their prime.
-Many players with significant contracts.
-OKC doesnt have much draft picks in future.
-Luxury tax
-Another 1st round exit

Just looking this I'd fire him. Or force him get in action against Donovan.

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