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Post#541 » by retrobro90 » Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:26 pm

Not to be a hipster but I didn't like Patton even when he was healthy. Low motor, low IQ, bad body language, can really only defend the rim (kinda). I guess it's low risk but I think there's better fliers.
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Post#542 » by thor19 » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:32 pm

I think thomas robinson was better
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Post#543 » by thedoppelganger » Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:21 pm

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Post#544 » by AirP. » Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:41 pm

If Patton can stay healthy he could end up being a nice player. His issues stem from an HS growth spurt and not being completely used to his new size, it's why he redshirted his first year in college.

Here are highlights of him in the D league while with Minnesota before the 2nd break in his other foot(he's now broke the left and right foot).
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Post#545 » by Dadouv47 » Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:51 pm

Could mean Adams is definitely not a long term plan for Presti (or he's just giving a shot with Patton)
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Post#546 » by ThunderBolt » Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:22 pm

This guy has played in 4 nba games. He’s not a part of our long term plans. If he develops enough to be traded for a second round pick then it would be a massive win by Sam.
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Post#547 » by retrobro90 » Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:23 pm

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Actually like this contract structure. Just wish we would've given it to someone else.
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Post#548 » by Dadouv47 » Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:04 am

ThunderBolt wrote:This guy has played in 4 nba games. He’s not a part of our long term plans. If he develops enough to be traded for a second round pick then it would be a massive win by Sam.


Well if we are giving him a 3 year contract, Presti is still trying to get something from him (which could potentially mean being part of our long term plans). Most case scenario is that he will end up being a bust anyway so getting a 2nd pick for him would be good enough :)

Low risk/''ok'' reward at best kind of move.
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Post#549 » by ThunderBolt » Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:20 pm

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https://www.nbadraft.net/players/justin-patton

Basically he's athletic but raw. He shot well from three but couldn't hit his free throws.
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Post#550 » by Kizz Fastfists » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:36 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:Basically he's athletic but raw. He shot well from three but couldn't hit his free throws.


He shot 53% from 3 in college on a total of 15 attempts. He is 29% from 3 in the g-league on 56 attempts. He is 0% in the NBA on 2 attempts. Let's not pretend he's a 3pt shooter or some kind of stretch big.

Athletic and raw I'll give you. The potential to be solid backup center, but limited to being an old school center not a modern day skilled big man, I would agree with. I think the best case scenario he ends with him being a low end starter, which on this contract would make him a quality backup. Although, that would require a coaching staff that could develop him. Maybe Adams can develop him for the coaching staff and by the end of this year he's ready to be the backup center for next year.
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Post#551 » by Dadouv47 » Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:51 pm

Don't know why we still have Noel on our roster. He probably won't play a lot with us and could help some contender. He would be an upgrade as back up C for many contenders...we could easily get a 2nd round pick for him (even maybe 2 if a team is desperate to get a big)
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Post#552 » by SmokeyPaw » Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:07 pm

Wolves fan. I watched quite a few of his G league games when he was with us. He was on a minute restriction after the 1st foot injury but was pretty impressive. Athletically not so much explosive as really fluid and coordinated for his size. What really impressed was his awareness and feel. Excellent passer for a big who really understood the defensive rotations. Thought we had something until the 2nd and 3rd foot injuries and they threw in the towel.

I think that contract is a nice speculation. If I was looking at a low cost developmental big he'd be at the very top of my list. Good luck with him.
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Post#553 » by slick_watts » Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:41 pm

justin patton has been horrific in the g-league.
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Post#554 » by thor19 » Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:49 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:Don't know why we still have Noel on our roster. He probably won't play a lot with us and could help some contender. He would be an upgrade as back up C for many contenders...we could easily get a 2nd round pick for him (even maybe 2 if a team is desperate to get a big)

noel can be trade with cp3 and a pick to a team instead of sending two or three picks, his contract is good and he is a good back up big
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Post#555 » by slick_watts » Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:51 pm

thor19 wrote:
Dadouv47 wrote:Don't know why we still have Noel on our roster. He probably won't play a lot with us and could help some contender. He would be an upgrade as back up C for many contenders...we could easily get a 2nd round pick for him (even maybe 2 if a team is desperate to get a big)

noel can be trade with cp3 and a pick to a team instead of sending two or three picks, his contract is good and he is a good back up big


noel has an implicit no trade clause. if he's traded somewhere his early bird rights won't go with him so he'd have to approve any trade.
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Post#556 » by Mattv » Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:49 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:Don't know why we still have Noel on our roster. He probably won't play a lot with us and could help some contender. He would be an upgrade as back up C for many contenders...we could easily get a 2nd round pick for him (even maybe 2 if a team is desperate to get a big)


More than likely he will be trade around the trade deadline to a team that have a chance to contend I see the Clippers as a good fit. Something like this

Clippers gets Muscala and Noel and a 2nd.
Okc gets Mfiondu Kabengele and J.Robison.
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Post#557 » by ThunderBolt » Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:25 am

Mattv wrote:
Dadouv47 wrote:Don't know why we still have Noel on our roster. He probably won't play a lot with us and could help some contender. He would be an upgrade as back up C for many contenders...we could easily get a 2nd round pick for him (even maybe 2 if a team is desperate to get a big)


More than likely he will be trade around the trade deadline to a team that have a chance to contend I see the Clippers as a good fit. Something like this

Clippers gets Muscala and Noel and a 2nd.
Okc gets Mfiondu Kabengele and J.Robison.

Guys that you can sign off the street don’t get traded six months later for first round picks.
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Post#558 » by Dadouv47 » Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:09 am

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Dadouv47 wrote:Don't know why we still have Noel on our roster. He probably won't play a lot with us and could help some contender. He would be an upgrade as back up C for many contenders...we could easily get a 2nd round pick for him (even maybe 2 if a team is desperate to get a big)


More than likely he will be trade around the trade deadline to a team that have a chance to contend I see the Clippers as a good fit. Something like this

Clippers gets Muscala and Noel and a 2nd.
Okc gets Mfiondu Kabengele and J.Robison.

Guys that you can sign off the street don’t get trade six months later for first round picks.


yup...there were clearly less market for Noel in the offseason than we thought.

IF he's willing to get traded, we could still get some small value for him though (far from a first obviously)

Still don't know how we will manage minutes between our 3 bigs, considering that Noel is 100% gone after next season, we don't know about Adams future but we need to make his trade value as high as possible anyway and trying to develop Patton...

Guess Muscala will end up being Gallo's back up. We will have a big haul at the PF position if Gallo gets traded (or injured)
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Post#559 » by spearsy23 » Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:55 am

Justin Patton sucks. The minutes breakdown will be something like
Adams 30
Noel 18
Patton -2
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#560 » by ThunderBolt » Fri Aug 16, 2019 3:30 pm

I dont know if Bazley will be any good but he definitely seems like a humble kid.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27335349/an-intern-no-more-darius-bazley-ready-nba-challenge

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