Game 9 OKC VS Golden State Warriors 11/08 8PM CST

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Post#21 » by spearsy23 » Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:39 am

There's admittedly some schadenfreude at Burks being let out of his commitment and ending up on this God awful warriors team.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Re: Game 9 OKC VS Golden State Warriors 11/08 8PM CST 

Post#22 » by ThunderBolt » Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:34 am

spearsy23 wrote:I don't think Billy was aware zone defense was allowed. We literally have no clue what to do against it.

I feel like there was another game this happened this year. May have been preseason.
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Post#23 » by ThunderBolt » Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:30 pm

Post game thoughts
Shai had a meh game. The positives were that he made some nice passes and although I felt he needed to mix up his shooting, he didn't force shots excessively. I'm not convinced Shai has to be a shooting guard like a few others are.

Bazley has shown some things that give reason for hope. However, its easy to judge performances based simply on if the shot goes in or not. Was he really that much better than he was against the Spurs or was it a matter of his shots falling in this game? I do think he's a smart player and not a bad shooter. He just has a ways to go. He absolutely got stood up on his dunk attempt.

How we feel about Ferguson depends on how many open looks he gets from his teammates. We've seen a couple of times where he comes of a screen and catches and shoots around the ft line. I guess that's a new wrinkle. I think the best case scenario for Ferg is that we sign him to a team friendly deal and then he takes a jump so that he becomes a good role player on a cheap contract.

Diallo has improved. I believe there was a fan on here last year that said he had potential to be Kobe Bryant. I'm not sure I agree with that.

Its pretty clear to me that CP3 is better than people thought he was this off season even if he isn't in his prime. He's also clearly deferring.

Gallo is the type of player this team needed the last few years. If he's stays healthy, I think we'll be pleased with the return we get at the deadline.

Adams was better but I don't really feel much different about him from what I said the other night.

Regardless if you are on team tank or team sustainability, the second half (specifically the 3rd quarter) was irritating to watch.
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Post#24 » by ThunderBolt » Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:34 pm

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spearsy23 wrote:I don't think Billy was aware zone defense was allowed. We literally have no clue what to do against it.

I feel like there was another game this happened this year. May have been preseason.

I just can't get over how totally inept we were against it. I don't mean just not generating open shots like you'd expect an nba team to, but literally running head first into multiple defenders, leaving feet with nowhere to go with the ball, or just standing around the perimeter swinging the back back and forth. The second cp3 came back in he started probing, finding open pockets, and generating looks. It was clear there was no plan, it was just an extremely smart player picking apart the defense.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#26 » by Old Man Game » Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:04 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:Post game thoughts
Shai had a meh game. The positives were that he made some nice passes and although I felt he needed to mix up his shooting, he didn't force shots excessively. I'm not convinced Shai has to be a shooting guard like a few others are.


Last night was the perfect example for me of how this season has been the SGA show. Whether he plays well or not is this season's wins and losses for me. Last night he wasn't especially great (how many crazy layins have to get swatted before he develops a counter like going to the mid-range or forcing contact and getting the whistle?) and therefore the game felt like watching a loss.

ThunderBolt wrote:Bazley has shown some things that give reason for hope. However, its easy to judge performances based simply on if the shot goes in or not. Was he really that much better than he was against the Spurs or was it a matter of his shots falling in this game? I do think he's a smart player and not a bad shooter. He just has a ways to go. He absolutely got stood up on his dunk attempt.


Is it just me or does he not seem especially athletic. I sort of expect every young guy 6'8 - 6'10" to be able to throw it down on someone (especially with a running start like that). But we haven't seen that from him to this point. It may be a physical strength/shying away from contact issue.
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Post#27 » by Old Man Game » Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:05 pm

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spearsy23 wrote:I don't think Billy was aware zone defense was allowed. We literally have no clue what to do against it.

I feel like there was another game this happened this year. May have been preseason.


I might be wrong but I think this happened in that Wizards game as well.
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Post#28 » by ThunderBolt » Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:18 pm

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ThunderBolt wrote:Post game thoughts
Shai had a meh game. The positives were that he made some nice passes and although I felt he needed to mix up his shooting, he didn't force shots excessively. I'm not convinced Shai has to be a shooting guard like a few others are.


Last night was the perfect example for me of how this season has been the SGA show. Whether he plays well or not is this season's wins and losses for me. Last night he wasn't especially great (how many crazy layins have to get swatted before he develops a counter like going to the mid-range or forcing contact and getting the whistle?) and therefore the game felt like watching a loss.

ThunderBolt wrote:Bazley has shown some things that give reason for hope. However, its easy to judge performances based simply on if the shot goes in or not. Was he really that much better than he was against the Spurs or was it a matter of his shots falling in this game? I do think he's a smart player and not a bad shooter. He just has a ways to go. He absolutely got stood up on his dunk attempt.


Is it just me or does he not seem especially athletic. I sort of expect every young guy 6'8 - 6'10" to be able to throw it down on someone (especially with a running start like that). But we haven't seen that from him to this point. It may be a physical strength/shying away from contact issue.

I agree about Shai's performance equating to a win/loss feel.

At 208 lbs, Bazley is 12lbs lighter than the Jerami Grant who got pushed around by guys like Blake Griffin that are listed arond 250. I doubt Bazley gets that big but putting on 10-15lbs along with experience will make a big difference. I don't think Bazley is un-athletic by any means. He's just a lot different type of player than most of us expected but I think that's a good thing.
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Post#29 » by Galloisdaman » Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:17 pm

This team is far from great but they are showing up. If they could bring in 1-2 legit players they could sneak in to the playoffs. Yes I know that is not the goal of many folks but I'm always wanting playoffs.
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Post#30 » by Dadouv47 » Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:09 pm

Galloisdaman wrote:This team is far from great but they are showing up. If they could bring in 1-2 legit players they could sneak in to the playoffs. Yes I know that is not the goal of many folks but I'm always wanting playoffs.


it would mean losing our first round pick. Would be beyond terrible for the franchise.
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Post#31 » by Galloisdaman » Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:59 pm

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Galloisdaman wrote:This team is far from great but they are showing up. If they could bring in 1-2 legit players they could sneak in to the playoffs. Yes I know that is not the goal of many folks but I'm always wanting playoffs.


it would mean losing our first round pick. Would be beyond terrible for the franchise.


It could be or it could be no big deal. No way to know where that pick will be, who will be available or how well OKC would draft. Lets say its #14. Is #14 next season going to be a franchise player? A all star? Anything is possible but I would think the players you have would have more trade value if winning and playing well especially Paul and Adams.
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Post#32 » by spearsy23 » Sun Nov 10, 2019 5:28 pm

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Galloisdaman wrote:This team is far from great but they are showing up. If they could bring in 1-2 legit players they could sneak in to the playoffs. Yes I know that is not the goal of many folks but I'm always wanting playoffs.


it would mean losing our first round pick. Would be beyond terrible for the franchise.

Pick is top 20 protected.
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Post#33 » by Old Man Game » Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:25 pm

If I thought there was a chance they could re-sign Gallo to a semi team friendly deal I'd almost be alright with making the playoffs. However, Danillo has the look of a guy counting the days until he's no longer in this country town.

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Post#34 » by Dadouv47 » Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:47 pm

Old Man Game wrote:If I thought there was a chance they could re-sign Gallo to a semi team friendly deal I'd almost be alright with making the playoffs. However, Danillo has the look of a guy counting the days until he's no longer in this country town.

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yeah the only way for Gallo to stay would be if we decide to trade future picks for good role players and build a very good team to ''contend''. But it would be stupid because it won't be enough to have a chance to beat the best teams in the league.
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Post#35 » by ThunderBolt » Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:07 pm

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Old Man Game wrote:If I thought there was a chance they could re-sign Gallo to a semi team friendly deal I'd almost be alright with making the playoffs. However, Danillo has the look of a guy counting the days until he's no longer in this country town.

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yeah the only way for Gallo to stay would be if we decide to trade future picks for good role players and build a very good team to ''contend''. But it would be stupid because it won't be enough to have a chance to beat the best teams in the league.

Gallo is the kind of player we need when we have two more young guys on shai’s level and we’re ready to make a playoff push before Presti gives them all max contracts.
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Post#36 » by Galloisdaman » Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:32 pm

Old Man Game wrote:If I thought there was a chance they could re-sign Gallo to a semi team friendly deal I'd almost be alright with making the playoffs. However, Danillo has the look of a guy counting the days until he's no longer in this country town.

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Why do you feel that? I think he seems to be trying to fit in with the team.
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Post#37 » by Old Man Game » Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:11 am

Galloisdaman wrote:
Old Man Game wrote:If I thought there was a chance they could re-sign Gallo to a semi team friendly deal I'd almost be alright with making the playoffs. However, Danillo has the look of a guy counting the days until he's no longer in this country town.

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Why do you feel that? I think he seems to be trying to fit in with the team.


I don't think he's not fitting in with the team, I just don't think he wants to be here in this city long term.
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Post#38 » by Galloisdaman » Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:13 pm

Old Man Game wrote:
Galloisdaman wrote:
Old Man Game wrote:If I thought there was a chance they could re-sign Gallo to a semi team friendly deal I'd almost be alright with making the playoffs. However, Danillo has the look of a guy counting the days until he's no longer in this country town.

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Why do you feel that? I think he seems to be trying to fit in with the team.


I don't think he's not fitting in with the team, I just don't think he wants to be here in this city long term.


Is that just your feeling or you have actual actions that show that? Most players want to play on a winning team but I have not heard Gallo say anything negative about this team or city.
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